Biden UP by 6 on Trump in new poll

[Joes Place]

The studies you have repeatedly claimed don't exist?

LOLWUT?

The studies I LINKED for you, Cletus. When you ASKED for "Stanford et al" to "weigh in" and you'd be amenable to listening to those studies - because the ones from Univ of Arizona were "research nobodies" or something to that effect.

You asked for marquis research institution input, and I gave it to you.

 

[torbee]

Wait, there are people that don’t have the serial liar KFDisciple on ignore? 😂

WTF is wrong with you?

 

[RollingBallofButcherKnives]

This is the correct answer.

Haley is so much better than Trump. But we all know Donald would run as a 3rd party if Haley were to somehow win.

You think he will run 3rd party? She did say she would pardon him and if he runs it will take votes from her and she will lose…

 

[KFsdisciple]

LOLWUT?

The studies I LINKED for you, Cletus. When you ASKED for "Stanford et al" to "weigh in" and you'd be amenable to listening to those studies - because the ones from Univ of Arizona were "research nobodies" or something to that effect.

You asked for marquis research institution input, and I gave it to you.

And I acknowledged it and moved on... I see you haven't.

 

[KFsdisciple]

Wait, there are people that don’t have the serial liar KFDisciple on ignore? 😂

WTF is wrong with you?

how many kills do you have to have to be serial? I think I'm just a regular killer, though my lack of poisonous injections and mask wearing probably killed a few grandmas out there.

On a side note... you have to have a pretty sandy gash between your legs to put someone on ignore... Unless it's gameday ron...I support anyone who wants to ignore that guy though I don't do it.

 

[Tom Paris]

Biden can do the job. That’s not the issue.

The issue is anyone in their 80s can have sudden and serious health problems at the drop of a hat. To me, that matters.

Unfortunately, since Trump is going to win the Republican nomination, it’s a moot point. I’m voting Biden.

It matters but I'm not freaking out if Kamala has to be POTUS for a couple of years like others do.

 

[Aardvark86]

On top of that I'm starting to wonder if we won't be entering a period in time where most presidents won't win re-election. The way our country is divided plus our low level of patience these days, it might be very difficult to win re-election in the future.

I’m not sure that’s a bad thing inasmuch as second terms tend to spin off corruption

 

[Joes Place]

And I acknowledged it and moved on...

You acknowledged it, and then ignored it.
And "moved on" to posting the same nonsense you did before.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

It matters but I'm not freaking out if Kamala has to be POTUS for a couple of years like others do.

I'm not as bothered by the idea of her being president as I am the idea that it would make her the presumptive nominee for 2028.

I think the Dems should run Whitmer or Beshear. I like people who have proven they can win elections in swing states or red states. I'm not as fond of people who have only won in hard blue states. Granted Obama won from a hard blue state, but there are a lot of failures from hard blue states as well.

 

[KFsdisciple]

You acknowledged it, and then ignored it.
And "moved on" to posting the same nonsense you did before.

you seem upset... sit down Joe, we don't want you to hurt yourself buddy.

 

[Tom Paris]

I'm not as bothered by the idea of her being president as I am the idea that it would make her the presumptive nominee for 2028.

I think the Dems should run Whitmer or Beshear. I like people who have proven they can win elections in swing states or red states. I'm not as fond of people who have only won in hard blue states. Granted Obama won from a hard blue state, but there are a lot of failures from hard blue states as well.

I agree with you.

 

[TC Nole OX]

Not to nitpick but Biden would have beaten Little Ron and Vivek in the General as well.

Haley could have given Sleepy Joe a run for his money had she stayed as a moderate, but her campaign has taken a hard right turn.

Nimrata’s polling would have fallen once the spotlight was on her and more people heard some of the racist nonsense that she has spewed recently.

 

[MitchLL]

He isn't, and hasn't been fit, period. They still buy what he's selling.

At this point, all MAGA has doubled down because they can't admit they've been duped and made a mistake.

It's a phenomenon they'll write books about some day.

The title ..The Dumbing Down of America ".

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

Nimrata’s polling would have fallen once the spotlight was on her and more people heard some of the racist nonsense that she has spewed recently.

After Trump I don't think a few racially insensitive comments would sink her. Trump's whole campaign in 2016 was way worse than "America has never been a racist country".

 

[Chishawk1425]

Such a tough choice...

 

[Hawked]

Real clear politics has trump currently winning all 7 swing states by a minimum of 3% lol

Wisconsin is 0.3% Trump
Penn is 0.3% Biden

Real Clear Politics average poll results Trump vs Biden battleground states. You are wrong.

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[artradley]

Nah, he'd be claiming the nomination was rigged and he is the true nominee. The MAGAs will believe every word he says.

Trump tweet after the 2016 Iowa caucus:

‘Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified’.

He has claimed fraud from the start, at every level. He is a sociopath.

 

[artradley]

It might happen earlier this time. Plus this time he has a House that will actually run with the "let's all overrule an election" thing. But they will need to do that before the new House is seated.

This is why him losing is almost more frightening. Note there are state legislatures ready to do the same. It will be 10x more coordinated this time.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

This is why him losing is almost more frightening. Note there are state legislatures ready to do the same. It will be 10x more coordinated this time.

If he loses there will be an attempt to manipulate the system to give him the win anyway.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

It matters but I'm not freaking out if Kamala has to be POTUS for a couple of years like others do.

I’m not either, but realistically we vote for the person we expect to be president for four years. Right or wrong, VP is an afterthought.

 

[Joes Place]

you seem upset

Just LOL-ing at your stupidity here & pointing it out for others to see.

 

[KFsdisciple]

Just LOL-ing at your stupidity here & pointing it out for others to see.

Yes you seem to have made it a mission... just nobody cares, including me.

 

[Hawkfan_08]

You think he will run 3rd party? She did say she would pardon him and if he runs it will take votes from her and she will lose…

I still think he will. It's about staying relevant and being a fly in the ointment. Continues to grift as well.

 

[Joes Place]

just nobody cares, including me.

It's why you constantly come back to post whatever new disinformation vaccines shows up in your Inbox or Twitter feed. Like clockwork.

 

[Hawkfan_08]

That's the crazy thing about 2020 - had Trump not been his own worst enemy, he probably wins reelection despite everything else that happened.

For all intents and purposes, the GOP is the Trump Party now.

I know. It's clear that the members I like are moving further away to get votes. It's a bummer.

 

[KFsdisciple]

It's why you constantly come back to post whatever new disinformation vaccines shows up in your Inbox or Twitter feed. Like clockwork.

Just passing along stuff, up to the reader to determine the veracity of it. There used to be a time when debate and hypothesis were part of the scientific process... now it's just accept the narrative or it's misinformation

 

[EasyHawk]

Any ideas are appreciated.

 

[EasyHawk]

 

[sober_teacher]

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I expect Biden to win the popular vote; but I'm far from comfortable he wins reelection due to the electoral college.

 

[Joes Place]

I expect Biden to win the popular vote; but I'm far from comfortable he wins reelection due to the electoral college.

Along with state legislatures which are claiming they can "override" the popular vote and install whichever electors they want.

 

[Caravaggio Hawkeye]

Just LOL-ing at your stupidity here & pointing it out for others to see.

Coming from the guy who doesn't know the difference between "stop" and step. Classic Joe so stupid he doesn't even know he is wrong.

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

Any ideas are appreciated.

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How’s about vaccinating your kid you dumb cow?

 

[RicoSuave102954]

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In what is shaping up to be a three-person contest between President Joe Biden, former President Donald Trump, and independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the question becomes: Which candidate can garner 34 percent of the popular vote or higher?

By becoming the standard-bearer for the Libertarian Party, Kennedy would be significantly more likely to get on state ballots, including key battleground states.

Democratic strategist Doug Gordon said, “Hijacking the Libertarian Party ballot line won’t change his odds of winning the presidency, which he has no chance at. But it does increase the odds he could play spoiler and hand the keys to the White House back to Trump.”

 

[sober_teacher]

In what is shaping up to be a three-person contest between President Joe Biden, former President Donald Trump, and independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the question becomes: Which candidate can garner 34 percent of the popular vote or higher?

By becoming the standard-bearer for the Libertarian Party, Kennedy would be significantly more likely to get on state ballots, including key battleground states.

Democratic strategist Doug Gordon said, “Hijacking the Libertarian Party ballot line won’t change his odds of winning the presidency, which he has no chance at. But it does increase the odds he could play spoiler and hand the keys to the White House back to Trump.”

Rico, history tells us that what actual support there is for RFK is likely to melt away closer to the election - this pattern has been repeated time and again. So calling it a legit 3-person contest simply isn't likely at all. Even Perot in '92, topped out at 17 or 18% and didn't win a single state. I believe I've read that political historians think he more or less took votes equally from both Clinton and Bush Sr.

It's possible that RFK may play the role of spoiler in November, but we simply won't know until we're closer to the election and we have a clearer idea post primary season, how firm the support level for Trump/Biden will be. My guess is that the battle lines are pretty firmly drawn and I'm honestly skeptical there are that many votes to steal from either.

 

[Tom Paris]

Such a tough choice...

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Eff this effing traitor

 

[Tom Paris]

I expect Biden to win the popular vote; but I'm far from comfortable he wins reelection due to the electoral college.

This. The only state that went for Trump in 2020 that could possibly flip is North Carolina. IMO. Iowa, Ohio, Florida used to be toss ups. No more.

 

[billanole]

It seems as if you delivered all of the MAGA/Q talking points.

And really seems to believe that dreck. Dumb ace.

 

[billanole]

So are you denying any of it was true? I know there's a but Trump coming... he's no prize either, but to pretend either one of these are "decent guys" is a farce.

You truly believe all of the BS you posted?
What a dunce. Grade school kids would own you in a debate.

 

[hawksurprize]

And truly remarkable that Dems are going to rally around a geriatric to ensure this election is too close for comfort (for those of us who reject the insanity of Trump). No, I’m not “both-siding here” (as a Republican voter I acknowledge Biden on his worse brain-addled, incoherent rambling day is still a million times better than President Big Mac), but this is seriously the best America can do?

Yes, Biden seems like a decent guy and is capable of doing the job. But c’mon. 82. Yes, 82. Seriously?

With that said, by November, as Trump takes his insane rants and meltdowns to even more epic levels over the next ten months, this election better be a blowout win for Team Blue, or God help us all.

Well said

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Rico, history tells us that what actual support there is for RFK is likely to melt away closer to the election - this pattern has been repeated time and again. So calling it a legit 3-person contest simply isn't likely at all. Even Perot in '92, topped out at 17 or 18% and didn't win a single state. I believe I've read that political historians think he more or less took votes equally from both Clinton and Bush Sr.

It's possible that RFK may play the role of spoiler in November, but we simply won't know until we're closer to the election and we have a clearer idea post primary season, how firm the support level for Trump/Biden will be. My guess is that the battle lines are pretty firmly drawn and I'm honestly skeptical there are that many votes to steal from either.

History "had" shown us that a businessman who ran for President wouldn't win. Except in 2016 history was proven wrong.

Don't count RFK out come November and Biden will be one who suffers from it.