Eventually the even more expanded big 10, SEC, and Big XII will merge into one mega conference and rebrand themselves as the NCAA.
Big Ten Reportedly 'Vetted' 10 Schools For Possible Expansion
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1) The SEC according to Sankey directly will only be expanding within its footprint to large state schools. So while Duke is a potential target of the Big Ten and Big 12, it never would be for the SEC.
2) Enrollment, ECU is 29k to Duke’s 17k. More importantly, most of ECU’s is undergraduate (22k undergrads to 6.5 k grads) while Duke is mostly a graduate school (10k grads to 6.5k undergrads) and most people are more rabid about their undergrad (I have a UF postgrad in healthcare risk management along with my Bill and Mary law degree and Cornell finance certs and I only enjoy when UF is losing).
3) Football attendance is ECU 32k to Duke’s 28k and that is when Duke was having a magnificent season for them while ECU finished 2-10. When ECU is doing well they have a rabid fanbase.
4) Duke is literally right next to NC State in Raleigh-Durham while ECU is on the coast about 3 hours from Charlotte. North Carolina is a big enough state the SEC would want multiple schools but probably spread out over the state not five miles from each other.
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Without having read the entire thread, I think it's obvious FSU is pissed about the CFP.
I bet they jump at the opportunity and even take a reduced share for 3-5 years.
The trick is choosing that 2nd school.
ACC probably in deep shit.
I bet they jump at the opportunity and even take a reduced share for 3-5 years.
The trick is choosing that 2nd school.
ACC probably in deep shit.
So, if the SEC is firm on that, I am trying to think through the likely candidates. Clemson, TTech, Okie State, Louisville, Miami, Georgia Tech, Central Florida, Southern Florida, Houston, FIU, and FAU.
I'm not sure how good a source this guy is but the FSU AD follows him on twitter. He doesn't number his tweets or know how to reply to create a thread. There are some repeats in this mess.
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I am both extremely turned on and nauseated.
I don’t love it but it’s not the worst idea I’ve heard.
Mostly the latter. Ive been ready for FSU to leave for different pastures for a while. This change may not be bad, but Ive been out of love for a while. Just ready for a divorce. WWE revenue is $1.2B tho..... thats a lot of eyeballs.
Wonder who runs it, sure not the ACC. Also the "best" programs left aren't in the PAC / B12....
Yep. The thing is, upon further reflection, after the CFP and ESecPN nonsense, is WWE that big a difference?
I’m not sure the ACC has anything to gain by merging with the Big12/Pac leftovers. The resulting conference would still be a step-down from the B1G/SEC, aside from the same 4-5 schools that are already in the ACC.
I agree. But would say if anything else other than best of ACC going to SEC and BIG it means those doors are closed. Something has to be done so may be plan B
I'm sure in the short term that the bump in money would be nice but I have no desire to be locked into anything with private equity and Wall Street types.
The only thing worse would be the Saudis.
The thought of private equity and WWE providing a long term benefit to the colleges in those three conferences is laughable. If anything, those schools better brace themselves for a vigorous rogering.
Rumors on the Twitter's:
ND
FSU
A&M
UNC
To B1G
Haven’t seen a reputable cite report this yet …
ND
FSU
A&M
UNC
To B1G
Haven’t seen a reputable cite report this yet …
Clemson is getting out of the death spiral conference before UNC is. I haven’t followed their situation closely but apparently some in the NC legislature are going to tie any future conference move for UNC to NCST being included. I saw some mention of this in a thread on Noles247 a few days ago
While ND makes more sense than pretty much any non-B1G school ever, at this point, piss on them.
The rest would actually be really good additions. That said, I ain't buying any more expansion until I see it happen.
I've been hearing versions of this rumor for a few months now. They always included ND and A&M though. Regardless, I don't think the Big 10 moves again until ND is ready to join full time. Whichever school can bring ND is the school that gets a golden ticket. A&M may be able to do it without them, but nobody else could.
I still look at the (4) sub-divisions of the B1G to look something like this:
East (Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers, Florida State, Miami (FL), Virginia) *** I know the B1G really wants UNC but with the NC state legislators holding them hostage with NC state, I can see the B1G moving on to UVA and/or Miami (FL)
Great Lakes (Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Indiana, Northwestern, Purdue)
Midwest (Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Notre Dame) *** ND added to this sub-division for competitive balance only
West (Washington, UCLA, USC, Oregon, Stanford, Texas A&M) *** I could see Cal or Utah filling one of the two remaining spots too.
East (Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers, Florida State, Miami (FL), Virginia) *** I know the B1G really wants UNC but with the NC state legislators holding them hostage with NC state, I can see the B1G moving on to UVA and/or Miami (FL)
Great Lakes (Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Indiana, Northwestern, Purdue)
Midwest (Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Notre Dame) *** ND added to this sub-division for competitive balance only
West (Washington, UCLA, USC, Oregon, Stanford, Texas A&M) *** I could see Cal or Utah filling one of the two remaining spots too.
The Big 10 has had several opportunities to switch to these "Pod" type set ups and they have chosen to go another direction every time. So either there is something logistically that keeps it from happening or there is something else about them that either the Presidents or other decision makers really don't like. If I had to guess is the idea that this would create 4 mini-conferences rather than one big one and they don't want sub-conferences to form inside the big conference. But that's just one possible reason, I'm sure there are multiple reasons why they don't want to go to pods. I'm not sure the division setup really was a big hit by many Universities as it is. It caused massive gaps in the amount of time some teams got to play each other and it did ruin some rivalries as well. Although that might have more to do with certain teams sucking during that time period than anything else (ahemIllinoisahem). You can count on one hand how many times Ohio State and Iowa have played each other in the last decade it seems.
the problelm is, the va legislature feels the same about tying va and vatech together
The B1G already passed on the rest of the PAC teams. I do not see what has changed so that they would now want them. Given that USC, UCLA, Washington, and Oregon are in the fold, I think it will take a no brainer from a non-revenue dilution perspective to be added. Not many of those schools out there outside of the SEC.
