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Bigfoot - real or not?

Feb 9, 2013
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I just saw this stabilized footage for the first time. Not sure if it leads me one way or the other.

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What say you?
 
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I just saw this stabilized footage for the first time. Not sure if it leads me one way or the other.

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What say you?
Insert obligatory @soybean shoutout. But no way big foot is real. I believe people see real things they think are those, but they are something else, ranging from a dude in an ape suit to bears to something else. Otherwise, the body of one would have surfaced at some point.
 
Could there have been some sort of mountain gorilla in the vast wilderness that is North America at some point? Not sure why this would be difficult to believe and for it to have survived long enough to become a part of native American lore. It could have existed and it is quite possible we would never find any sort of record other than the stories that were passed down

Does a big foot exist now in north America? Not a chance
 
I hold just a very slight possibility of existence. The most compelling argument against for me is the statistics on how big a breeding population would need to be to survive, which would be way too large to avoid detection.

Other than that, I'm a lot less convinced by the "we haven't found one yet" aspect than most people. I think people really highly underestimate the vastness and remoteness of wilderness, and nature's efficiency to eliminate its dead. I could believe a population of say 30-50 could go undetected in parts of North America. The problem is that a population of that size would likely not have the genetic diversity to survive.

The Patterson film is pretty interesting to me. Unlike most conspiracies or mysterious phenomenon, I've probably become MORE open to the possibility that it is real over time. I actually think it is pretty damn compelling, and the various stories supposedly attesting to it being a hoax are contradictory to the point of being really questionable.

The most compelling aspect is that there isn't a professionally released studio film from that era featuring a "man in an ape suit" that looks remotely as realistic as the Patterson film. We were still a year away from 2001 A Space Odyssey. There is not monkey suit you could just get from a costume shop that would look like that. The ability to fake something that looks better than commercial studio pictures at the time seems dubious to me.

It may well be fake, and a consequence of one particularly effective sequence in a low resolution camera, but its not clearly just a "man in a (1967) ape suit" to me.
 
I hold just a very slight possibility of existence. The most compelling argument against for me is the statistics on how big a breeding population would need to be to survive, which would be way too large to avoid detection.

Other than that, I'm a lot less convinced by the "we haven't found one yet" aspect than most people. I think people really highly underestimate the vastness and remoteness of wilderness, and nature's efficiency to eliminate its dead. I could believe a population of say 30-50 could go undetected in parts of North America. The problem is that a population of that size would likely not have the genetic diversity to survive.

The Patterson film is pretty interesting to me. Unlike most conspiracies or mysterious phenomenon, I've probably become MORE open to the possibility that it is real over time. I actually think it is pretty damn compelling, and the various stories supposedly attesting to it being a hoax are contradictory to the point of being really questionable.

The most compelling aspect is that there isn't a professionally released studio film from that era featuring a "man in an ape suit" that looks remotely as realistic as the Patterson film. We were still a year away from 2001 A Space Odyssey. There is not monkey suit you could just get from a costume shop that would look like that. The ability to fake something that looks better than commercial studio pictures at the time seems dubious to me.

It may well be fake, and a consequence of one particularly effective sequence in a low resolution camera, but its not clearly just a "man in a (1967) ape suit" to me.
 
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Insert obligatory @soybean shoutout. But no way big foot is real. I believe people see real things they think are those, but they are something else, ranging from a dude in an ape suit to bears to something else. Otherwise, the body of one would have surfaced at some point.
I don't know what it was that day, but I know that is was not a dude in a ape suit ot a bear. I have come to regret sharing what I saw that day with this board. But I have come to understand how the fear of ridicule prevents people who have seen something strange to say something. I don't know one way or another if bigfoot exists, but if they do, I saw a juvenile one.

I would also like to say that I totally understand the skeptics, and I guess I'm one too. But what I've come to despise are those who try to tell me what I must have seen instead. I saw what I saw.
 
It’s interesting that people have believed this since at least 1852.

I had an 1852 newspaper and one article was about a giant wild man in the forests of California.
 
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I don't know what it was that day, but I know that is was not a dude in a ape suit ot a bear. I have come to regret sharing what I saw that day with this board. But I have come to understand how the fear of ridicule prevents people who have seen something strange to say something. I don't know one way or another if bigfoot exists, but if they do, I saw a juvenile one.

I would also like to say that I totally understand the skeptics, and I guess I'm one too. But what I've come to despise are those who try to tell me what I must have seen instead. I saw what I saw.
I believe you bean. I once experienced something paranormal, girlfriend witnessed. I was playing the fool taking off my shirt. Then I threw it in our bedroom when it flew right back at me.

There’s just no possible explanation but we both saw it happen.
 
I believe you bean. I once experienced something paranormal, girlfriend witnessed. I was playing the fool taking off my shirt. Then I threw it in our bedroom when it flew right back at me.

There’s just no possible explanation but we both saw it happen.
Did your wife possibly throw it back, but you and your girlfriend maybe couldn’t see her from where you were standing?
 
 
I believe they are real because of the thousands of sightings I have trouble believing every single one of those people are nuts. There's a lot of people that absolutely swear that they saw one and it couldn't have been anything else.
 
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