They will not fit in
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Bill Maher not a fan of Syrian Refugees
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Positive: At least Maher's hate for religion applies to all religions.
Negative: Muslims are a lot more like us then he wants to admit. We are beginning to treat them the way Japanese Americans where treated at the beginning of World War 2. Inherently evil due to the color of their skin (And trust me a middle eastern skin tone does play a factor in this.) and a group that can't be trusted.
It's sad that we can't learn from these mistakes.
Negative: Muslims are a lot more like us then he wants to admit. We are beginning to treat them the way Japanese Americans where treated at the beginning of World War 2. Inherently evil due to the color of their skin (And trust me a middle eastern skin tone does play a factor in this.) and a group that can't be trusted.
It's sad that we can't learn from these mistakes.
Muslim Syrians are a lot like other conservative religious Americans. That's why I feel its not in my best interest to give them quarter. Fund a refugee camp in Saudi Arabia. Better yet, let Saudi Arabia fund a refugee camp.
When Christians came over to America were they hoping to religiously oppress, or escape from religious oppression? Because I think there is a bit of a difference. Middle Eastern Muslims are going to want their religion to be the law of the land, eventually. No thanks. I don't think skin color has a thing to do with it with the majority of the people who don't want them here. It's more because a decent number of them are religious fanatics. We have enough of that already.
Every faith has fanatics. Let's just ban all religion.
Depends on which groups. Also there are groups that really sort of apply in both. Many groups came over here to escape from oppression with the intention of setting up a colony/city/village in which their religion was the law of that colony/city/villiage.
How do we know this? Just because their government's are theocracies doesn't mean that the refugees want that again.
They would just find some other collectivist entity, like government.
I rarely agree with him, but I like him. I like almost anyone who thinks for themselves and doesn't default to party talking point. He might be liberal, but he isn't a Democratic shill.
While this would be nice; let's not act like all religions are equal in today's world when it comes to crazy.
No: it's not even close: One religion has discrimination as a law: one religion has death penalties for thought crimes.
It's not like it's just a few muslims who hold those beliefs it's actually a significant % of the faith.
This is not that same as those crazy catholics that use condoms or masturbate.
I personally feel more threatened by Mike Huckabee or Ted Cruz's form of Christianity than any Muslim extremist. They personally want to limit my freedoms. How should they be punished?
Several states have outlawed part of their religion in banning sharia. The leading R has vowed to outlaw their immigration to the nation after walking back that we should deport those already here. The anti-islam movement is real.
Both. Puritans were fanatical and eventually wore out their welcome in Anglican England. By the time we were recognized as a country in 1783 mainstream Protestants were the majority. But we had already begun the long process of removing Native Americans and replacing them with European styled settlements. In early American history racism had much more to do with removing Natives than religious persecution.
gotta love it from the party that claims to be about small government and freedom. Lets make government bigger to restrict freedoms because religion
it would be more than naive to equate the two. It would also show a lack of understanding on the topic.
Sure sounds like the ones in Germany like sexually assaulting women.
I'm not big on Huckabee or Cruz either, but I don't see them cutting peoples' heads off or stoning 50k women in the last year because those women were raped.
To be fair, you don't see muslims doing that in America either. Cruz and Huckabee on the other hand threaten to do a lot to America. I mean the old lady who lives across the street is probably a bigger threat to run me over in the morning than any muslim is to push me off the top of a building. Threats are all relative but that is an interesting abortion policy.
Depending on how many Muslims actually lived in this country and if the day came where they were a sizable population (talking around 20%) I wouldn't say your scenario would be far fetched.
That's not likely to be a concern in our life times. But in case it needs to be said again, I'm not a big fan of Islam.
No you're right, extremely small chance of the Muslim population climbing that high in our lifetime. However, I maintain that if it did your scenario may be more common. I don't think that's a stretch.
I don't either, it's a horrible philosophy. Outside of its views on charity I can't think of a single reason to recommend it. They used to value education, but that teaching has gone away so it seems a stretch to give them credit for an idea they reject themselves.
I think that's too broad. I think specific sects adhere to the more dogmatic views. For instance, my dad is anti ghey marriage, however I'm positive he wouldn't stone them. Stop them from getting married, yes but physically harm them no.
No, he's Christian. I was pointing out that all religions have ppl who adhere to more strict view points than others in the same religion, which is why I think only a small sliver would actually commit terrible atrocities.
Its like a big group of Westbro Baptist followers. We don't need the Islam version of Westbro here, in fact lets ship the Westbro people to Syria while we are at it.
Ok, I see your point now. Thanks and I agree. But I don't know of a force within Islam that adheres to a love of knowledge anymore. (While admitting that may just be my ignorance) And beyond that and charity the doctrines in the philosophy are all fairly odious in my opinion. It's not a philosophy of benign ideas that just get taken too far. It's a philosophy filled with uniquely vile notions that must be ignored to even approach acceptability.
What others said as well as what's been posted on here about them not valuing life etc. etc.
Sure our government has at least not yet decided to put them all into camps, but I guarantee there are quite a few people who would support that kind of thing in this country.
Pretty sure that's your ignorance on the subject.
And some ignorance on the Old Testament, as well.
Sure, you don't see it here, but you see it in a lot of other places outside of here. How long till we are like other places. I mean, you guys want us to be more European like as it is.
