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Thanks for the history lesson. But that's what it is, history. Also, how many 9+ win seasons has KF had in his 20 years? 2 by your count, must have went to school at 'N'owledge U.This guy is one of my favorites over here because of how boisterous his predictions are...ya gotta love it. But this is rich, stating “Nebby is on to Plan C” with the ‘20 Class.
LMAO - did you just attempt to talk sh*t about recruiting? Iowa’s whole class is made up of kids that Nebraska (or most successful Top 50 programs) haven’t and won’t offer. That’s 80% of your class; we wouldn’t even bother...and we offer 400+.
I know Iowa thinks they can develop their way above their 8 win regular season ceiling, and once every 10-12 years that happens, but that’s quite the cute little comment there, @HawkNole09.
You’ll long wish for the days of Mike Riley, when things were so much fun for that stretch of 5 years. The truth is that Nebraska owns Iowa. Always have. 29-17 overall. Iowa has 2 wins since WWII against coaches not named Mike Riley.
Do you all really think that suddenly a team that can’t recruit better than 80% MAC level prospects, despite developing them very well, will ever truly compete with a Blueblood like Nebraska that lives in the Top 20 range.
I know it’s a tough, tough pill to swallow; but recruiting matters. It matters as much as development. Iowa might develop with the very best of them, but you’ll never break the ceiling of 7/8 regular season wins (beside once every decade) unless you find a way to recruit better than you have. 39th place....51st place...it’s all the same, equals 7/8 wins on the regular season schedule, with a weak non con lineup none the less.
Nebraska owns Iowa, save for the three years your favorite coach Mike Riley did his best to destroy the program.
Osborne owned Iowa. Solich owned Iowa. Hell, even Bo Pelini, as inept as he was still almost went undefeated all four years against Iowa. 3-1 should have been 4-0, but turnover Tommy Armstrong found a way to throw 4 interceptions that day despite the Hawkeyes going 0-11 on third down, and Iowa lucked out to win it.
Nebraska recruits better. Osborne consistently beat Iowa. Solich consistently beat Iowa. Pelini consistently beat Iowa. Wanna know why? Because they recruited better.
Riley sure his best to instill some confidence in the Hawkeye nation that they’ll never lose to Nebraska again, but Riley is gone. The first coach that didn’t own Iowa, is gone.
In comes Frost, with a true freshman QB and not a single draftable player, into Kinnick vs a Hawkeye team loaded with draft talent and it takes a walk off field goal to get it done.
Nebraska has always owned Iowa. They recruit better. That’s how it works. Now, Riley is long gone. Things will return to the way they were, before Riley. Where every coach prior owned Iowa. Osborne. Solich. Pelini. All owned Iowa.
Frost, who is by far and away the best recruiter of the bunch, will continue to do what every coach prior (besides Riley) has done to Iowa. Owned them. Tick tock, friends. That 4-8 team and the leftovers of the Riley era are in the rear view mirror. We have always recruited well at Nebraska, and have always owned Iowa...except for the Riley years. Now Frost will return to doing what every coach has ever done to Iowa. I will truly miss the bravado on this board, though. You guys and your ever optimistic off season Kirk-is-gonna-get-it-done-this-year, to the fire-Kirk-he-sucks when you ultimately win 7 or 8 regular season games, is so much fun to watch unfold.
Man I love this board.
Is everyone in Nebraska dumber than shit? You guys suck. Why is it so hard for you to accept? Come back when you win more than 4 games.This guy is one of my favorites over here because of how boisterous his predictions are...ya gotta love it. But this is rich, stating “Nebby is on to Plan C” with the ‘20 Class.
LMAO - did you just attempt to talk sh*t about recruiting? Iowa’s whole class is made up of kids that Nebraska (or most successful Top 50 programs) haven’t and won’t offer. That’s 80% of your class; we wouldn’t even bother...and we offer 400+.
I know Iowa thinks they can develop their way above their 8 win regular season ceiling, and once every 10-12 years that happens, but that’s quite the cute little comment there, @HawkNole09.
You’ll long wish for the days of Mike Riley, when things were so much fun for that stretch of 5 years. The truth is that Nebraska owns Iowa. Always have. 29-17 overall. Iowa has 2 wins since WWII against coaches not named Mike Riley.
Do you all really think that suddenly a team that can’t recruit better than 80% MAC level prospects, despite developing them very well, will ever truly compete with a Blueblood like Nebraska that lives in the Top 20 range.
I know it’s a tough, tough pill to swallow; but recruiting matters. It matters as much as development. Iowa might develop with the very best of them, but you’ll never break the ceiling of 7/8 regular season wins (beside once every decade) unless you find a way to recruit better than you have. 39th place....51st place...it’s all the same, equals 7/8 wins on the regular season schedule, with a weak non con lineup none the less.
Nebraska owns Iowa, save for the three years your favorite coach Mike Riley did his best to destroy the program.
Osborne owned Iowa. Solich owned Iowa. Hell, even Bo Pelini, as inept as he was still almost went undefeated all four years against Iowa. 3-1 should have been 4-0, but turnover Tommy Armstrong found a way to throw 4 interceptions that day despite the Hawkeyes going 0-11 on third down, and Iowa lucked out to win it.
Nebraska recruits better. Osborne consistently beat Iowa. Solich consistently beat Iowa. Pelini consistently beat Iowa. Wanna know why? Because they recruited better.
Riley sure his best to instill some confidence in the Hawkeye nation that they’ll never lose to Nebraska again, but Riley is gone. The first coach that didn’t own Iowa, is gone.
In comes Frost, with a true freshman QB and not a single draftable player, into Kinnick vs a Hawkeye team loaded with draft talent and it takes a walk off field goal to get it done.
Nebraska has always owned Iowa. They recruit better. That’s how it works. Now, Riley is long gone. Things will return to the way they were, before Riley. Where every coach prior owned Iowa. Osborne. Solich. Pelini. All owned Iowa.
Frost, who is by far and away the best recruiter of the bunch, will continue to do what every coach prior (besides Riley) has done to Iowa. Owned them. Tick tock, friends. That 4-8 team and the leftovers of the Riley era are in the rear view mirror. We have always recruited well at Nebraska, and have always owned Iowa...except for the Riley years. Now Frost will return to doing what every coach has ever done to Iowa. I will truly miss the bravado on this board, though. You guys and your ever optimistic off season Kirk-is-gonna-get-it-done-this-year, to the fire-Kirk-he-sucks when you ultimately win 7 or 8 regular season games, is so much fun to watch unfold.
Man I love this board.
This guy is one of my favorites over here because of how boisterous his predictions are...ya gotta love it. But this is rich, stating “Nebby is on to Plan C” with the ‘20 Class.
LMAO - did you just attempt to talk sh*t about recruiting? Iowa’s whole class is made up of kids that Nebraska (or most successful Top 50 programs) haven’t and won’t offer. That’s 80% of your class; we wouldn’t even bother...and we offer 400+.
I know Iowa thinks they can develop their way above their 8 win regular season ceiling, and once every 10-12 years that happens, but that’s quite the cute little comment there, @HawkNole09.
You’ll long wish for the days of Mike Riley, when things were so much fun for that stretch of 5 years. The truth is that Nebraska owns Iowa. Always have. 29-17 overall. Iowa has 2 wins since WWII against coaches not named Mike Riley.
Do you all really think that suddenly a team that can’t recruit better than 80% MAC level prospects, despite developing them very well, will ever truly compete with a Blueblood like Nebraska that lives in the Top 20 range.
I know it’s a tough, tough pill to swallow; but recruiting matters. It matters as much as development. Iowa might develop with the very best of them, but you’ll never break the ceiling of 7/8 regular season wins (beside once every decade) unless you find a way to recruit better than you have. 39th place....51st place...it’s all the same, equals 7/8 wins on the regular season schedule, with a weak non con lineup none the less.
Nebraska owns Iowa, save for the three years your favorite coach Mike Riley did his best to destroy the program.
Osborne owned Iowa. Solich owned Iowa. Hell, even Bo Pelini, as inept as he was still almost went undefeated all four years against Iowa. 3-1 should have been 4-0, but turnover Tommy Armstrong found a way to throw 4 interceptions that day despite the Hawkeyes going 0-11 on third down, and Iowa lucked out to win it.
Nebraska recruits better. Osborne consistently beat Iowa. Solich consistently beat Iowa. Pelini consistently beat Iowa. Wanna know why? Because they recruited better.
Riley sure his best to instill some confidence in the Hawkeye nation that they’ll never lose to Nebraska again, but Riley is gone. The first coach that didn’t own Iowa, is gone.
In comes Frost, with a true freshman QB and not a single draftable player, into Kinnick vs a Hawkeye team loaded with draft talent and it takes a walk off field goal to get it done.
Nebraska has always owned Iowa. They recruit better. That’s how it works. Now, Riley is long gone. Things will return to the way they were, before Riley. Where every coach prior owned Iowa. Osborne. Solich. Pelini. All owned Iowa.
Frost, who is by far and away the best recruiter of the bunch, will continue to do what every coach prior (besides Riley) has done to Iowa. Owned them. Tick tock, friends. That 4-8 team and the leftovers of the Riley era are in the rear view mirror. We have always recruited well at Nebraska, and have always owned Iowa...except for the Riley years. Now Frost will return to doing what every coach has ever done to Iowa. I will truly miss the bravado on this board, though. You guys and your ever optimistic off season Kirk-is-gonna-get-it-done-this-year, to the fire-Kirk-he-sucks when you ultimately win 7 or 8 regular season games, is so much fun to watch unfold.
Man I love this board.
Sorry, but a "history of underproducing in the trenches"? It's like Iowa fans don't realize Neb existed prior to the Riley era.Bollers just needs to figure out if he wants to be part of a solid player development, winning program — or a possible upstart with a history of underproducing in the trenches.
I agree that losing out on Bollers would be a bad look, but unless he's Epenesa 2.0, losing him is not the end of the world. The defensive talent in Iowa high school ranks for the 2021 class is impressive. There are options if decides he wants to go elsewhere.I agree, but man if Nebraska gets a top legacy recruit in Iowa’s back yard that would be quite the blow. Imo regardless of how many DE we take this year he needs to be priority #1
Sorry, but a "history of underproducing in the trenches"? It's like Iowa fans don't realize Neb existed prior to the Riley era.
These are just Pelini era front 7 guys since we're talking about a DE/OLB in Bollers. Lavonte David...Jared Crick...Randy Gregory...Maliek Collins...Vincent Valentine...Phillip Dillard...SUH. All really good college players (in Suhs case maybe the best at his position) and all NFL draft picks. Oh and Neb has the most Outland Trophy winners of any program.
We'll see how Frost does, but he is going back to a proven formula that has worked at Neb for 50+ years prior to Riley era. The strength program under Riley was embarrassing.
We’ve been ranked top 10 five times in this millennium
You said "in the trenches". I provided you examples from "in the trenches". Gregory for sure has problems, but was still a very very good player in college. You're also really only going back to Riley to now time. Going back further (which wasn't that long ago) doesn't fit your narrative. If you want to say Riley sucked at developing OLB/DE...I agree. But to say Neb doesn't have a rich history of developing "in the trenches" players is foolish.Those guys aren’t OLB/DE. And the one that is was has drug issues. Nobody wants to sign on with a program with that culture.
We get men, and build NFL caliber athletes with low bust potential.
You sign 4 star prima donnas with drug and authority issues, and turn them into 4-8 coulda-beens.
Come back when you win A big game. Don’t even have to beat Iowa. Just A big game (both teams ranked)
Someone help me out here-did Lachey have a Nubby offer? I thought I read that somewhere . . .
You sure like to move the goalposts a lot.But only twice in the last 15 years
That’s actually really good considering how average your staff is at recruiting, though.
I just went back and checked, because I thought - geez maybe Chase is right. Maybe Nebraska hasn’t sucked the whole time they were in the B1G.
But, no, I was right.
In losing efforts since 2011 when you joined the B1G, Nebraska has been beaten by a total of 413 points, with a total of 8 blowout losses (15+ points). You can thank the Hawks for 25% of those.
During the same period Iowa has been beaten by a total of 168 points, and only 3 blowout losses — not counting bowl games because you struggle to make them.
But only twice in the last 15 years
That’s actually really good considering how average your staff is at recruiting, though.
Their one trip to the B1G championship they gave up 70. Again, 70.
Since KF has been at Iowa, his teams have given up 50 points ONCE.
Nubby has given up 50 sixteen times in that same span. They have given up 70 three times in that span, including 76 to Kansas.
Nebbie just isn't about defense. They also aren't about stepping up after they get punched.
This guy is one of my favorites over here because of how boisterous his predictions are...ya gotta love it. But this is rich, stating “Nebby is on to Plan C” with the ‘20 Class.
LMAO - did you just attempt to talk sh*t about recruiting? Iowa’s whole class is made up of kids that Nebraska (or most successful Top 50 programs) haven’t and won’t offer. That’s 80% of your class; we wouldn’t even bother...and we offer 400+.
I know Iowa thinks they can develop their way above their 8 win regular season ceiling, and once every 10-12 years that happens, but that’s quite the cute little comment there, @HawkNole09.
You’ll long wish for the days of Mike Riley, when things were so much fun for that stretch of 5 years. The truth is that Nebraska owns Iowa. Always have. 29-17 overall. Iowa has 2 wins since WWII against coaches not named Mike Riley.
Do you all really think that suddenly a team that can’t recruit better than 80% MAC level prospects, despite developing them very well, will ever truly compete with a Blueblood like Nebraska that lives in the Top 20 range.
I know it’s a tough, tough pill to swallow; but recruiting matters. It matters as much as development. Iowa might develop with the very best of them, but you’ll never break the ceiling of 7/8 regular season wins (beside once every decade) unless you find a way to recruit better than you have. 39th place....51st place...it’s all the same, equals 7/8 wins on the regular season schedule, with a weak non con lineup none the less.
Nebraska owns Iowa, save for the three years your favorite coach Mike Riley did his best to destroy the program.
Osborne owned Iowa. Solich owned Iowa. Hell, even Bo Pelini, as inept as he was still almost went undefeated all four years against Iowa. 3-1 should have been 4-0, but turnover Tommy Armstrong found a way to throw 4 interceptions that day despite the Hawkeyes going 0-11 on third down, and Iowa lucked out to win it.
Nebraska recruits better. Osborne consistently beat Iowa. Solich consistently beat Iowa. Pelini consistently beat Iowa. Wanna know why? Because they recruited better.
Riley sure his best to instill some confidence in the Hawkeye nation that they’ll never lose to Nebraska again, but Riley is gone. The first coach that didn’t own Iowa, is gone.
In comes Frost, with a true freshman QB and not a single draftable player, into Kinnick vs a Hawkeye team loaded with draft talent and it takes a walk off field goal to get it done.
Nebraska has always owned Iowa. They recruit better. That’s how it works. Now, Riley is long gone. Things will return to the way they were, before Riley. Where every coach prior owned Iowa. Osborne. Solich. Pelini. All owned Iowa.
Frost, who is by far and away the best recruiter of the bunch, will continue to do what every coach prior (besides Riley) has done to Iowa. Owned them. Tick tock, friends. That 4-8 team and the leftovers of the Riley era are in the rear view mirror. We have always recruited well at Nebraska, and have always owned Iowa...except for the Riley years. Now Frost will return to doing what every coach has ever done to Iowa. I will truly miss the bravado on this board, though. You guys and your ever optimistic off season Kirk-is-gonna-get-it-done-this-year, to the fire-Kirk-he-sucks when you ultimately win 7 or 8 regular season games, is so much fun to watch unfold.
Man I love this board.
Agree OP. Will be shocked if Blaise doesn't end up a 4* top 250 recruit and 1# player in Iowa (assuming he stays healthy). Writers on Husker Online think he'll be borderline top 100. He did get and invite to the AA Bowl.
Not sure what's going to happen with Bollers, but he seems to have legit interest in Neb. I'd give Iowa an edge atm, but if Neb has a good season...who knows. Wouldn't be impossible to end up with 2019 and 2020 #1 Iowa recruits in Lincoln.
It's not all Riley's fault, though he turned out to be terrible. When was Iowa's last B1G title...15 yr ago? Is that Iowa's current staff and KF's fault?If it's all Mike Riley's fault, how come you losers haven't even won your conference in 20 years? Didn't think he was there quite that long. Hmmmmm.
I'm on TOS as well. Since this is a Rivals board I was just speaking to the Rivals rating. I'll say it again...by the end of the cycle I think there's a very strong likelihood that Gunnerson is the top ranked player in Iowa and a top 250 Rivals recruit.Except that the only site that has Gunnerson rated as the number 2 rated player in Iowa still has him rated far behind Jones. That same site, 247, has Jones rated as the 6th best SDE in the country.
Gunnerson might get a 4th star but he won’t pass Logan as the top player in Iowa.
Meanwhile, the only player that has shown any real movement in 247’s top 100 SDE ranking is another Iowa commit, Yahya Black. Both he and Gunnerson could get a 4th star.
It's not all Riley's fault, though he turned out to be terrible. When was Iowa's last B1G title...15 yr ago? Is that Iowa's current staff and KF's fault?
It's not all Riley's fault, though he turned out to be terrible. When was Iowa's last B1G title...15 yr ago? Is that Iowa's current staff and KF's fault?
I'm on TOS as well. Since this is a Rivals board I was just speaking to the Rivals rating. I'll say it again...by the end of the cycle I think there's a very strong likelihood that Gunnerson is the top ranked player in Iowa and a top 250 Rivals recruit.
Iowa has 2 wins since WWII against coaches not named Mike Riley... Nebraska has always owned Iowa.
LOL!Agree OP. Will be shocked if Blaise doesn't end up a 4* top 250 recruit and 1# player in Iowa (assuming he stays healthy). Writers on Husker Online think he'll be borderline top 100. He did get and invite to the AA Bowl.
Not sure what's going to happen with Bollers, but he seems to have legit interest in Neb. I'd give Iowa an edge atm, but if Neb has a good season...who knows. Wouldn't be impossible to end up with 2019 and 2020 #1 Iowa recruits in Lincoln.
Writers on Husker Online think he'll be borderline top 100.