Brands Talks About Spencer And His Return

[PinDoxRico]

Was curious if you know what has become of your ex-teammate.

He murdered his step-mom then killed himself on Easter Sunday 2 weeks after the wreck.

To this day I think he drove into that bluff on purpose because he was trying to do it then. And I couldn’t yell at him to “stop.” Because if I did that, it would have just pissed him off. I just had to sit there in that car while that dude drove his car directly into a bluff at 95 MPH.

Just a little scrape on my elbow…. Not a mark on him…HOW?!?!

Gave me nightmares for years. And this was a few weeks before I received my BA in Psychology and Social Work…. Wanted to change it THAT instant, but it was a bit too late.

And I have to reiterate how different he was our first year there… he was extremely popular, well-liked, always smiling, fun to be around, girls liked him, etc…. Right when he hit 20, the squirrels got loose in his head and they never settled down. Went from being a joy to be around to just… yeah. Schizophrenia scares the chit out of me. I would be absolutely heartbroken if I had a kid suffering from that.

That wasssss prolly not the response you expected… Pretty dark. Most terrifying time of my life and it’s almost more terrifying thinking back on it than it was at the time. Prolly because I think back on it knowing what happened, but also I think it may be because any fear I felt in those situations, I had to ignore and act like I didn’t notice it because the dude would call you out, take it personally and get pissed if he detected fear with you. Just… yeah, scary. And sad. He was a good guy before things went off the rails.

 

[natchrlman]

I also had a friend go off the rails and eventually kill himself…… although he frightened people at work because of his behavior I knew he would only hurt himself ….. I was the Chief Steward/VP of the union at the time and had a lot of his coworkers complaining about him….. tried to talk to him and he just wound up quitting

Blew his head off with a 12 gauge 6 months later……. I’ve had two good friends commit suicide and it’s a very hard thing to accept….. always feel like you could have maybe done more to help them

 

[IAChief32]

I also had a friend go off the rails and eventually kill himself…… although he frightened people at work because of his behavior I knew he would only hurt himself ….. I was the Chief Steward/VP of the union at the time and had a lot of his coworkers complaining about him….. tried to talk to him and he just wound up quitting

Blew his head off with a 12 gauge 6 months later……. I’ve had two good friends commit suicide and it’s a very hard thing to accept….. always feel like you could have maybe done more to help them

Had a young troop new to the unit who tried to kill himself. He got help and eventually settled into adult life. Very sharp guy, great work ethic etc. About the time I retired, he moved on as well to a new unit up in Missouri. We texted here and there...he told me he was the shop chief and things were going great. Two weeks after our last text, he killed himself 12 years after his first attempt. Sadly, he wasn't the only person I knew like this.

 

[natchrlman]

Had a young troop new to the unit who tried to kill himself. He got help and eventually settled into adult life. Very sharp guy, great work ethic etc. About the time I retired, he moved on as well to a new unit up in Missouri. We texted here and there...he told me he was the shop chief and things were going great. Two weeks after our last text, he killed himself 12 years after his first attempt. Sadly, he wasn't the only person I knew like this.

my second buddy that committed suicide was a retired army recruiter….. served in Bosnia before he turned to recruiting….. hap a military pension and benefits owned a little motel and some rental cabins on the Mississippi ….. biggest hawk fan ever and had the world by the ass…….. shot himself over a woman…… he’d called me and asked me to visit and I was going to the next weekend…… he didn’t last that long…… will forever haunt me

 

[PinDoxRico]

My HS (Mepo) had a state qualifier who fell in love with a woman after HS, married her, had marital problems, got divorced and then committed suicide. Shocked the community. Very well liked guy from a well-liked family. There’s a fishing tournament named after him still.

So my dad is a rather hard man… Incredible person, but he’s always had a reputation around the area for being pretty tough on us brothers and certainly not a guy to mess with. He was our coach in every sport growing up, so there were a lot of public butt-chewings that we received regularly. And I’m sure us kids didn’t always make things easy on his frustration levels either. Anyways, I’ve only seen my dad cry 2 times that I can remember. One time was when we were in the funeral line for our state qualifier who committed suicide. We were waiting in line when the guy who died’s dad came over to our dad and looked at him and said, “you should start giving your boys more hugs and tell them you love them because someday you may not have the chance to do it again.” Yeah… floodgates… for my dad, my brother and I. And our dad did take his advice. That was rough.

I told my daughters this story just last week and started bawling while I was telling the story! 😣 My daughters have had a bit of a different experience with their dad… They’ve seen their dad cry plenty of times… enough to where they don’t think anything of it when it happens. I can’t even watch the movie “Dumbo” with them without crying. 😆 🤦‍♂️ Oh well, they say empathy is what separates us from the wilderbeasts, right?! Lol I can roll with that.

 

[el dub]

My HS (Mepo) had a state qualifier who fell in love with a woman after HS, married her, had marital problems, got divorced and then committed suicide. Shocked the community. Very well liked guy from a well-liked family. There’s a fishing tournament named after him still.

So my dad is a rather hard man… Incredible person, but he’s always had a reputation around the area for being pretty tough on us brothers and certainly not a guy to mess with. He was our coach in every sport growing up, so there were a lot of public butt-chewings that we received regularly. And I’m sure us kids didn’t always make things easy on his frustration levels either. Anyways, I’ve only seen my dad cry 2 times that I can remember. One time was when we were in the funeral line for our state qualifier who committed suicide. We were waiting in line when the guy who died’s dad came over to our dad and looked at him and said, “you should start giving your boys more hugs and tell them you love them because someday you may not have the chance to do it again.” Yeah… floodgates… for my dad, my brother and I. And our dad did take his advice. That was rough.

I told my daughters this story just last week and started bawling while I was telling the story! 😣 My daughters have had a bit of a different experience with their dad… They’ve seen their dad cry plenty of times… enough to where they don’t think anything of it when it happens. I can’t even watch the movie “Dumbo” with them without crying. 😆 🤦‍♂️ Oh well, they say empathy is what separates us from the wilderbeasts, right?! Lol I can roll with that.

I spent a lot of time recently collecting background info on a client who was severely abused from birth. The project took two months to complete. By the end of the first month, I’d leave our meeting and end up crying on the way beck to the office. Three coworkers started hassling me for having red eyes at work. Two don’t work there anymore and the third is hopefully on her way out the door. My boss knew why my eyes were red and it was none of their business. I’m pretty sure they planned on reporting me for suspicion of smoking weed at work. Imagine their surprise when I went to agency management first. Lol

 

[natchrlman]

My HS (Mepo) had a state qualifier who fell in love with a woman after HS, married her, had marital problems, got divorced and then committed suicide. Shocked the community. Very well liked guy from a well-liked family. There’s a fishing tournament named after him still.

So my dad is a rather hard man… Incredible person, but he’s always had a reputation around the area for being pretty tough on us brothers and certainly not a guy to mess with. He was our coach in every sport growing up, so there were a lot of public butt-chewings that we received regularly. And I’m sure us kids didn’t always make things easy on his frustration levels either. Anyways, I’ve only seen my dad cry 2 times that I can remember. One time was when we were in the funeral line for our state qualifier who committed suicide. We were waiting in line when the guy who died’s dad came over to our dad and looked at him and said, “you should start giving your boys more hugs and tell them you love them because someday you may not have the chance to do it again.” Yeah… floodgates… for my dad, my brother and I. And our dad did take his advice. That was rough.

I told my daughters this story just last week and started bawling while I was telling the story! 😣 My daughters have had a bit of a different experience with their dad… They’ve seen their dad cry plenty of times… enough to where they don’t think anything of it when it happens. I can’t even watch the movie “Dumbo” with them without crying. 😆 🤦‍♂️ Oh well, they say empathy is what separates us from the wilderbeasts, right?! Lol I can roll with that.

yea I’ve become more and more emotional as I age…..I joke that I’m turning into an old woman have manopause all that but I just think it’s all the experiences in life that make you appreciate everything more than when you’re younger….. plus I have more time to get online and read about all the sad stuff in the world 😬

I feel very fortunate how blessed I’ve been compared to so many others….. the wave to the kids at the football games gets me every time

 

[natchrlman]

So ……about damned time for some wrestling boys!!!!!!!

 

[PinDoxRico]

yea I’ve become more and more emotional as I age…..I joke that I’m turning into an old woman have manopause all that but I just think it’s all the experiences in life that make you appreciate everything more than when you’re younger….. plus I have more time to get online and read about all the sad stuff in the world 😬

I feel very fortunate how blessed I’ve been compared to so many others….. the wave to the kids at the football games gets me every time

Heck yeah always search for the positives and always know that there are many people out there who have it worse… I think of this all the time. Heck, I remind my daughters of it daily when they won’t eat their food… always have to remind them that there are millions of starving Ethiopians in the world who would fist fight a bear for a chance to eat the potato salad that they want to throw away.

 

[PinDoxRico]

Posted this on The Pin Doctors Facebook today, thought some of you may enjoy it:

So, College opens are right around the corner. For those of you who get the opportunity to watch Iowa Hawkeye and 3X State Champion out of Fort Dodge, Drake Ayala compete at an Open, this is just an annual warning for you to make sure to watch where your eyes go after he wins matches because that’s the time Drake likes to strike with ”the circle game,” which as we know, if you accidentally look at the circle, he has to punch you twice. And I’ve heard Drake has put on a lot of muscle since last year, so I don’t think I would want to be punched twice by him, so be careful!!!

(This is a joke, for when Drake won his 3rd title, he held 3 fingers out like in the pic to signal “3 titles,” and someone caused a big stink about it because they thought he was flashing a gang sign… If you win 3 state titles, you have the right to hold up 3 fingers, IMO! Right?!)

 

[PSU Mike]

Heck yeah always search for the positives and always know that there are many people out there who have it worse… I think of this all the time. Heck, I remind my daughters of it daily when they won’t eat their food… always have to remind them that there are millions of starving Ethiopians in the world who would fist fight a bear for a chance to eat the potato salad that they want to throw away.

Happens in Stillwater too.

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

I remind my daughters of it daily when they won’t eat their food… always have to remind them that there are millions of starving Ethiopians in the world

NOOM commercials tell me I was conditioned to eat all the food off my plate--even when full-- by my parents constantly telling me about all the starving children in Biafra. In hindsight, Mom could've cooked less.

Then again, I weighed less than 98 lbs in 10th grade, so perhaps they were looking for some immediate benefit and were willing to risk future psychological damage.

 

[el dub]

yea I’ve become more and more emotional as I age…..I joke that I’m turning into an old woman have manopause all that but I just think it’s all the experiences in life that make you appreciate everything more than when you’re younger….. plus I have more time to get online and read about all the sad stuff in the world 😬

I feel very fortunate how blessed I’ve been compared to so many others….. the wave to the kids at the football games gets me every time

We have a youngish outreach team that was getting bullied one day by a client on the back patio. They were all afraid of the guy and he knew it.

I walked out, defused the situation and sent the trouble maker packing. The young folks looked at me like I’d just performed a miracle.

When I was their age, I would have had five friends jostling to get to be the one to kick his a$$ for acting like one. Lol

 

[johnstownsteel]

He murdered his step-mom then killed himself on Easter Sunday 2 weeks after the wreck.

To this day I think he drove into that bluff on purpose because he was trying to do it then. And I couldn’t yell at him to “stop.” Because if I did that, it would have just pissed him off. I just had to sit there in that car while that dude drove his car directly into a bluff at 95 MPH.

Just a little scrape on my elbow…. Not a mark on him…HOW?!?!

Gave me nightmares for years. And this was a few weeks before I received my BA in Psychology and Social Work…. Wanted to change it THAT instant, but it was a bit too late.

And I have to reiterate how different he was our first year there… he was extremely popular, well-liked, always smiling, fun to be around, girls liked him, etc…. Right when he hit 20, the squirrels got loose in his head and they never settled down. Went from being a joy to be around to just… yeah. Schizophrenia scares the chit out of me. I would be absolutely heartbroken if I had a kid suffering from that.

That wasssss prolly not the response you expected… Pretty dark. Most terrifying time of my life and it’s almost more terrifying thinking back on it than it was at the time. Prolly because I think back on it knowing what happened, but also I think it may be because any fear I felt in those situations, I had to ignore and act like I didn’t notice it because the dude would call you out, take it personally and get pissed if he detected fear with you. Just… yeah, scary. And sad. He was a good guy before things went off the rails.

Really appreciate your reply. Thank you.

 

[el dub]

We have a youngish outreach team that was getting bullied one day by a client on the back patio. They were all afraid of the guy and he knew it.

I walked out, defused the situation and sent the trouble maker packing. The young folks looked at me like I’d just performed a miracle.

When I was their age, I would have had five friends jostling to get to be the one to kick his a$$ for acting like one. Lol

He’d scream and take a step forward and five or six people on the outreach team took steps back. (He was still 15’ from me.) I knew I had him when he ordered me to stop staring at him. Lol He soon left. The kids were amazed. I was amazed they were amazed….

 

[hawkeyefan75]

If this happens in March do we have a chance? Thanks
25-1
33-DNP
41-1
49-6
57-DNP
65-8
74-8
84-6
97-2
HWT-1

Cass not beating Gable. Yes, Gable will be back second semester.

 

[doctor1]

Any truth to a rumor that Spencer took a visit to Cali for a consultation for his knees as they may not be progressing like they hoped?

Here is hoping it is inaccurate.

 

[SPOONER]

Any truth to a rumor that Spencer took a visit to Cali for a consultation for his knees as they may not be progressing like they hoped?

Here is hoping it is inaccurate.

Call me crazy but perhaps it would be helpful if you told us where you read the rumor. Hint: if it’s Facebook or Twitter you can relax.

 

[Trapper85]

Turns out the Cali doctor said no worries, the problem was math confusion. He expected local doctor to confirm he was at 200% (100 for each knee), and got concerned when doctor said he was only back to 100%. No need to worry unless he's at 83%, err 166%?

 

[el dub]

NOOM commercials tell me I was conditioned to eat all the food off my plate--even when full-- by my parents constantly telling me about all the starving children in Biafra. In hindsight, Mom could've cooked less.

Then again, I weighed less than 98 lbs in 10th grade, so perhaps they were looking for some immediate benefit and were willing to risk future psychological damage.

I weighed 92 in 9th grade.

 

[doctor1]

Call me crazy but perhaps it would be helpful if you told us where you read the rumor. Hint: if it’s Facebook or Twitter you can relax.

It was not off any social media but in a discussion with someone who has connection back to the team...

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

I weighed 92 in 9th grade.

I ran lightweight Jr High track in 9th grade - top weight of 72lbs.

 

[el dub]

I ran lightweight Jr High track in 9th grade - top weight of 72lbs.

Wrestled at 72 in seventh grade.

 

[west2east]

Wrestled at 72 in seventh grade.

Lol I was small as well 6th 60, 7th 68 and
8th 72. Freshman year I was 84 and you had to weigh 88 so you could wrestle 103 . I had to drink a 1/2 gallon of water before every weigh in.

 

[IAChief32]

I have a nephew in the 7th grade and he is already tall and weighs 150ish. I wrestled 140 my senior year.

 

[MSU158]

Ok. WfL guaranteed $100 via:

I pay $100 if PSU team score is less than 131.5.

You pay $100 if PSU team score is greater than 131.5.

We each pay $50 on an O/U push at PSU NCAA team score of 131.5.

I pay $70 and you pay $30 on injury void of O/U wager by RBY, Starocci, Brooks, Dean or Kervliet.

Book it!!!

It's called a sense of humor.

Here's the link:
Post in thread 'Brands Talks About Spencer And His Return' https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/thre...t-spencer-and-his-return.401733/post-10528554


Nobody expected 7 PSU wrestlers to outscore Spencer Lee.

Haines and SVN offset Dean by more than enough. I expected them to peak.

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