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Brands Talks About Spencer And His Return
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I think they could score big at 141 with Bartlett. I don't think he's great, but that weight is garbage. Like the worst I've seen in a long time. They could also score at 157 if they roll out Haines. I don't think that's a great weight either. I don't think either is elite right now. It's more about the composition of the weights.
I agree but things can certainly change. I think Hawks were considered in drivers seat by most last year to repeat until they weren't.
I don't know about big, but I could see Bartlett somewhere from 5th-8th. Woods and Matthews are legit. Hart is going to be really good. After that, I still think highly of Alirez and Carlson. The big test will be how Bartlett does against Bergeland and D'Emilio. Those 2 are probably the gatekeeper types in the R12 matches to make AA.
With that said, I think you are selling 157 short. There may not be a super elite guy with Carr gone, but a fully healthy O'Connor could be. Andonian could very well prove to be as well. After that Teemer is legit. Robb, Humphreys, Gfeller, Scott, Lewan and Franek are all very solid AA types. Finally, a fully healthy Brayton Lee could be right at the top tier of this weight.
Haines may very well prove to be a stud, but he won't be AAing because its a weak weight. He will have to beat legit AA types to get there...
Yeah, not mentioned much but that stood out to me as well. Brands goes on and on about Spencer in March and then boom at the end we love Bradley Hill. So random
Wait...what? The linked article isn't a Tom Brands interview with a chronological order of his comments. It's an article about an event in the Quad Cities. His statements are intertwined with commentary and info on the upcoming season. Hill is from the QC so it only stands to reason that he was part of the discussion at some point at this event. If you have an issue, it's with Steve Batterson not Tom Brands. And really, there was nothing random at all about the Hill comments.
This shouldn't have to be explained to anyone. I feel like I'm on Sesame Street.
Ha nothing really to say about this other than if true, I hope he recovers ok. I’ve been in a scary car accident before. I had a teammate who developed schizophrenia in college and he went from one of the most popular guys at school to irrational and delusional in a matter of what seemed like weeks and I was one of the only teammates who didn’t start ostracizing him because I’ll be honest… he’s the one person I’ve ever met who terrified me. You don’t mess with crazy. Anyways, one time I was riding with him to my friend’s house and he had an episode and drove his little car straight into a bluff at 90 MPH with me in the passenger seat and it scrunched the entire front of the car almost to the seats. Somehow I had a tiny cut on my elbow. He had no injuries. Some…how.
Getting into a car accident is awful even if you don’t have physical injuries and I hope the kid is ok… Seems like a good enough dude.
Someone brought this up on another forum and naturally, they brought up the shenanigans from last year. He wrote something like, “karma for what the Brands pulled on Swafford last year.” Here was my response to that, for that narrative needs to be disposed of because Brennan loves Tom Brands. One of his favorite coaches he’s ever had. There is no friction there.
My Response: Michael Kravitz I understand how this would be the first thought a lot of people will have with this considering the situation last year… And a great portion is my fault for making a scene publicly and what not and causing a distraction and potentially making it weird for Brennan. I really wish I would have handled that differently. And I’ve had a lot of time to think about it since and process the situation and listen to something other than my own impulsive thoughts on the ordeal and all in all I feel it was just an unfortunate situation that wasn’t intended by them… I honestly do believe 💯 that it was Kemerer who wanted that match and like Tom Brands said, “he’s been the unquestioned guy, he’s the guy, so he made the decision.”
When the shirt was pulled, i don’t think it was anticipated that Kemerer would be ready to go for a while and apparently things changed. It happens… it was unfortunate and I think if any of us could do it over again, we would all do it differently, but hindsight is 20-20.
With that said, I just want to make sure everyone knows that Tom and Brennan are 💯 cool with each other. In fact, they seem rather tight… not a lot of coaches have been able to reach Brennan as effectively as Tom has and he’s one of his fave coaches he’s ever had. For real… there’s no animosity there. In fact, it’s the opposite with those two. And you can kinda pick up on this with the way Tom talked about Brennan on Flo for that golf outing a few weeks ago. They are good.
And if this news is true and they don’t have to worry about the wrestle offs or whatever, then I think both Tom and Brennan aren’t even thinking about that stuff… I bet they are already thinking and working on reaching their goals.
To anyone interested, the interview from Tom at the golf outing is at the link… he gets to Brennan around the 2:00 mark, but the entire interview is cool…
Iowa's Possible Line-Up And Other Takeaways From HWC Golf Outing - FloWrestling
Iowa coach Tom Brands provided insight about the upcoming season and the new facilities that are expected next year.
Thanks for catering to the lazy, casual, unintuitive wrestling fans. They couldn't be expected to figure it out on their own.
Also posted this comment in that thread…
Michael Kravitz, Brennan operates real well when he knows that his coach or supporters believe in him. And there’s never, ever, EVER been a coach that he’s ever had who has been more positive and believed in Brennan more than Tom has. For real. And for a guy like Brennan who grew up idolizing Tom, the fact that Tom CLEARLY believes in him has made him believe In himself in the process.
Michael Kravitz, Brennan operates real well when he knows that his coach or supporters believe in him. And there’s never, ever, EVER been a coach that he’s ever had who has been more positive and believed in Brennan more than Tom has. For real. And for a guy like Brennan who grew up idolizing Tom, the fact that Tom CLEARLY believes in him has made him believe In himself in the process.
Agreed. Had a brother-in-law who suffered. Cycled between staying on medication and not liking the way the meds made him feel. It's hard on the schizophrenic and those close to them.
I can attest to that. Was almost killed by a driver via head-on, because he took a left at high speed and lost his Maxima's rear end. All because he was in a hurry and didn't want to slow down and yield the right away.
The guy was trolling you. You've done your penance. I would've kept my keyboard silent.
Sometimes when I try to be quiet I get so frustrated that I feel like my mouth is gonna fall off! 😆 It’s a task for me.
Reason for responding is that I just wanted to nip that narrative in the bud or butt or whatever the saying is because I know how fast negativity can spread once people start piling on…. Haha so it was kinda like a, “just so everything is clear… there’s no problem here” type of thing.
Yeah that always confused me because why would you wanna nip the inside of a butt? Youknowutimsayn?
Well clearly at least one of them couldn't.
I saw you on there once. Weren't you the one with the apron and hatchet chasing the chicken?
there will be no damned optimism on this board!!
oh wait….. that’s the football board…. brutal over there
Out on a limb and agreeing with the take that if we were to put 4 in the finals we would have a chance.
Predicted AA finishes by FLO rankings:
Iowa - 1, 2, 2, 4, 7
PSU - 1, 1, 1, 1, 2
Iowa has only 1 projected champ, Lee, who is coming off some significant bilateral knee surgery. Cass and Warner both underdogs to PSU as of now.
All 4 of PSU's returning champs are favorites to repeat - RBY, Brooks, Starocci and Dean. Lots of bonus coming from them as well. Kerkvliet a good shot at 2nd.
Iowa would need lots of bonus and some upsets, if they're to have a chance.
Iowa - 1, 2, 2, 4, 7
PSU - 1, 1, 1, 1, 2
Iowa has only 1 projected champ, Lee, who is coming off some significant bilateral knee surgery. Cass and Warner both underdogs to PSU as of now.
All 4 of PSU's returning champs are favorites to repeat - RBY, Brooks, Starocci and Dean. Lots of bonus coming from them as well. Kerkvliet a good shot at 2nd.
Iowa would need lots of bonus and some upsets, if they're to have a chance.
Lots of bonus? QUick math in my head has them at a total of 9.5 between them last year.
Cool stat, bro. However, what in the hell does that have to do with anything I said? The point I made was that the Iowa scoring should be solidly in the 120's, if they match the prediction I quoted. PSU DOES NOT project higher than that as of now, THIS SEASON.
Even if you wanted to use your argument, they scored 131.5 last season and LOSE Nick Lee. Getting to that number will be very difficult this year since Starocci, RBY, Brooks and Dean will have to be perfect to basically match their totals from last year. If Gable is truly coming back, Kerk will also have a hard time scoring anything more than what he did last year. So, that leaves Howard, Bartlett, Van Ness, Haines?(I would be surprised if he goes) and Facundo to have to pick up the 26.5 to get to that number when Lee scored 23 of those himself last season.
Just to show you how hard it will be for them to match that number from last season:
125-Hildebrandt .5
133-RBY 23
141-Lee 23
149-Bartlett 1
157-Berge 2
165-0
174-Starocci 22
184-Brooks 23
197-Dean 21.5
285-Kerkvliet 15.5
As good as they are, who in their right mind would take the over for RBY, Starocci, Brooks, Dean and Kerkvliet at 105???? If Gable is wrestling, it would only take 1 of the 4 not repeating to almost guarantee they don't match last years numbers. With that said, I expect PSU to be around 120 and win, since I don't see Iowa matching the quoted prediction. However, if Iowa does score over 120, I would say they almost certainly win...
Huh? You need to be a bit more specific. The prediction(which I didn't make), had Iowa with 4 in the Finals and 3 champs. The post I made that you just quoted, had 4 PSU guys in the Finals and said they are very unlikely to match last year's total if 1 of the 4 doesn't repeat.
On top of all that, I said I don't see Iowa matching the prediction and think PSU wins with about 120 points or so. So, again, what are you actually trying to say???
Yeah, but rankings are not predictions or projections. So what's the real point? It's just a bunch of mathematical masterbation this early in the season. And, I'll trust Intermat's TPI before yours.
Barring injuries, PSU should far exceed 120 this year when 125, 141, 149 and 165 (and 157 if Haines goes) score above their current rankings' advancement and placement points.
I felt the need to be positive was important.
What is "far exceed"? I would be happy to make a bet with you if you quantify it...
Not my fault your response didn't make 1 lick of sense. But, feel free to be you...
What are you saying?
How many points PSU will score above 120, or how many points the collection of starting wrestlers will score above their current Intermat TPI number?
And why should it be anything greater than even, since you're so confident in your assessment?
Speaking of your assessments, what are you giving on Michigan's constitution referendum?
You were the one that specifically said. "far exceed". I said PSU should score about 120 or so. So, OBVIOUSLY, it would only behoove me to make a bet if you actually quantify "far exceed"....
As far as the Michigan thing goes, the way Proposal 3 is written is BEYOND terrible. Hell, it doesn't even mandate a licensed profeesional(i.e. doctor) perform the service nor does it even deliniate what point of the pregnancy you can no longer perform the procedure. I can't believe even the strongest proponent would think over 30 weeks is ok, let alone considerably earlier...
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