Of course we do .
The question is-Who resurrected him?
Who was Jesus praying too the night before he died?
Carl Sagan on the Existence of God
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The question is-Who resurrected him?
Who was Jesus praying too the night before he died?
Ya know, I've watched The Ten Commandments a lot of times, and those "Israelites" were stubborn and hard to please. They finally are freed from Egypt's bondage and that's not enough! A buncha ingrates! The RedSea parts, Pharaoh's army is swallowed-up, and they're still easily-swayed! If I saw the Red Sea part and a pillar of fire stop Pharaoh's army, I think I could wait a few hundred years for Moses to come down from the mountain before I started bowing to a Golden Calf!
Wrong sir . Read Colossians 1:15
Now how about Acts 7:55. You may recognize this when Stephen was stoned. who does Stephen see standing at Gods right hand? That’s right Jesus.so how could Jesus be God and standing next to God at the same time. Also maybe you noticed the glaring issue of the holy spirit not being mentioned?(surely Stephen would have acknowledged this don’t you think?)
Shall we continue ?
Proverbs 8:22-31…these are Jesus words. Does he not say Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way? Does not Jesus himself say he came to be beside God as a master worker? Once again if Jesus was God would he need to produce himself?
shall we get the encyclopedia Brittanicas comment on the Trinity ?
Ok here’s the quote from them: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.”
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Why thank you kind sir. Appreciate the kind word. For the record I’m not trying g to attack anyone. I’m simply trying to have a reasonable discussion and an interchange of ideas. I do not believe my beliefs are any more important than my fellow mans….thanks again for the comment
Genesis 1 says
"Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.'
Who exactly was included in the plural if not Jesus and the Holy Spirit?
It amazes me how these details even matter! What difference does it make???
Do you NEED these arbitrary details- which can NEVER BE PROVEN RIGHT OR WORNG- to be validated in order to just be a kind human being, and treat others as you want to be treated???
I always liked that pronoun in Genesis.
I had a Rabbi tell me once that Adam and Eve were the "very first Hebrews", not the first human beings ever created.
So what makes you think there is more than two individuals here? I agree with more than one . But wouldn’t you agree it’s God and his firstborn Son?
Lol It makes All the difference in the world . If Jesus was resurrected it blows up everything you believe about the Trinity .
And having a discussion about the Bible doesn’t change how I treat everyone in my life. I treat everyone with respect and kindness and as I stated I don’t consider myself and my beliefs any better. I’m simply defending the Bible , which I believe to be Gods inspired word .
Well, you got the human sacrifice part down. I guess one cult of human sacrifice is as good as another.
Absolutely. You seem like a really good dude. I respect you and your beliefs.
You as well . You seem very genuine in your curiosity. No matter what we believe I think we can all agree we live in a rough world. We all long for a world that is free of some of the big problems we face as humans.
Can’t believe this thread is now 14 pages long with no end in sight. Historically, people with differing beliefs on religion have usually achieved quick resolution/agreement by just discussing it amongst themselves.
Must just be HROT
Must just be HROT
The first two passages in no way indicate Jesus was a created being. Solomon was quoting Jesus 700 years prior to his birth and introduction to mankind?
No.
How did you get into the Jehovah's witnesses? Would they shun you if you joined a mainstream Christian denomination?
The ex-Jehovah's Witnesses shunned by their families
For many ex-believers, leaving the religion means they can no longer speak to their children or parents.
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No, as a religion Jehovahs witnesses do not consider themselves to be better than anyone else . We treat people with respect and respect their beliefs as well.
My parents raised me as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. When I got old enough I had the choice to make my own decision . I was convinced this was indeed the truth found in the Bible.
And joining a mainstream denomination ? There is a reason people are leaving traditional churches in large numbers . They simply aren’t getting their spiritual need filled by the clergy. They don’t use the Bible, instead choosing to preach some social issue disguised as something religious. Most encourage their congregations to support mans governments when they should be directing them to Gods Kingdom, which of course our Lord and Savior preached about and told his followers to pray for. They also water down Gods clear standards on right and wrong, choosing instead to presume God will forgive with impunity no matter what.
I don’t think I’m wrong saying lots of people are leaving mainstream Christianity because of the hypocrisy in the churches .
Good thing that Jesus dude didn't preach about "social issues", amirite?
Can't disagree with this.
Do you acknowledge that the version of the Bible used used by Jehovah's Witnesses, The New World Translation, is different from those used in most mainstream Christian denominations?
It’s actually not . If you do the research You will find it’s the most accurate translation in print. You can look into that if you want .
No he definitely didn’t preach about social issues . clergy today spend much more time on social and political issues than actually teaching their congregations the Bible
I’ll have to discuss this with you when I have time to respond appropriately. I’m at work but I’ll get back to you on that .
Short story is there will be some people who go to heaven . However it is a limited number , the rest of faithful mankind has the prospect of living forever in paradise on earth .
This would support Jesus teaching that the “meek will inherit the earth “
LOL...yeah, you just went completely off the f'n rails.
Actually, it is in very important doctrinal ways and it's only considered accurate within the JW church.
Four examples of where the New World Translation gets it wrong • Pathway
So, what’s wrong with the NWT? Following are four examples of the translators conforming the text to Watch Tower theology, particularly with respect to the person and work of Christ. Read the full story from The Pathway, Missouri Baptists' news source.
mbcpathway.com
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I meant if you end up in the outer darkness like the Bible describes. If that happens, ask Jesus to save you.
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