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Thought Exercise: Hypothetical for God Lovin’ Folk

What would your feelings be finding that out? Disappointed but not surprised.

Would you be angry/upset that you spent so much of your time and treasure on something that didn’t exist? No. I like the community of church and I think overall faith has been a positive in my life.

Would you feel contentment that you led a principled life you’re happy with? Overall, yes. A lot depends on when I die....I still feel I have a lot to see and do and would be disappointed I didn't make those things happen

Fwiw, I love the “disappointed but not surprised” answer.
 
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No judgement, but the idea I'm going to change my morals at the last minute is simple... for lack of a better term.

If you read closely, reaaally closely, you’ll note I’m not asking you to change your moral compass. It’s merely a question of how you’d feel knowing that a big part of your moral compass was built on something that didn’t exist. I even spoon fed you an example response that said you’d not change anything because of it.

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If you read closely, reaaally closely, you’ll note I’m not asking you to change your moral compass. It’s merely a question of how you’d feel knowing that a big part of your moral compass was built on something that didn’t exist. I even spoon fed you an example response that said you’d not change anything because of it.

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Like I said, the idea of just doing the right thing is beyond some of you. That doesn't need to be a "because he is watching" thing.


Be well 97
 
Like I said, the idea of just doing the right thing is beyond some of you. That doesn't need to be a "because he is watching" thing.


Be well 97

We appear to be two ships passing in the night. Never to connect on a substantive level regarding this topic due to an inability for the other to see what the other is trying to illuminate.

Same to you whiskey.
 
I honestly don't know what the 4 sins are/were in that, but if having a positive impact on people so they miss you, and experiencing life first-hand rather than through the internet or reality shows, are sins, then I'm gonna be better off without that religion.
Let me be clear that to a non-believer like me, there's nothing wrong with what you said. But from a religious point of view, you exhibited the sins of pride (twice), and greed, and you made false claims about doing all you can to help others (nobody does all they can do to help others, if they are being honest). Not being an expert, I might have that slightly wrong, but if there is a God and Heaven and you find yourself nitpicking with St. Peter, you aren't in a good position.
 
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No need to confirm your faith to all of us or say this hypothetical is wrong because it’s not correct or possible. This is a thought exercise and I promise god will not be watching the thread so you don’t need to worry about eternal repercussion in answering.

The scenario: Right after you died there was a period of five minutes where it is explained to you that there is no god and you will be returning to dust. No afterlife. No bliss. No nothing. Everything is over.

The question: What would your feelings be finding that out? Would you be angry/upset that you spent so much of your time and treasure on something that didn’t exist? Would you feel contentment that you led a principled life you’re happy with? Some in between? Something else?

Let’s hear your thoughts.

Also, no asking non-religious folk the opposite scenario (e.g. finding out there is a god). Start your own thread you bastards.
I dont think dead people have feelings so a moot point
 
Let me be clear that to a non-believer like me, there's nothing wrong with what you said. But from a religious point of view, you exhibited the sins of pride (twice), and greed, and you made false claims about doing all you can to help others (nobody does all they can do to help others, if they are being honest). Not being an expert, I might have that slightly wrong, but if there is a God and Heaven and you find yourself nitpicking with St. Peter, you aren't in a good position.

Here's a thought experiment for you and my friend @Hawki97

Suppose you're offered this deal: You have go to Church for 1 hour a week and the rest of the week, you try to live the Golden Rule. In return, you get an infinite amount of bliss after you die.

Would you take that deal?
 
OP: Let me create a hypothetical where a higher power tells you that there is no higher power. I will then call it a “thought exercise”.

OP telling us that he doesn’t understand faith without telling us he doesn’t understand faith.
 
Here's a thought experiment for you and my friend @Hawki97

Suppose you're offered this deal: You have go to Church for 1 hour a week and the rest of the week, you try to live the Golden Rule. In return, you get an infinite amount of bliss after you die.

Would you take that deal?

You’re not following the rules of the OP Brian. Start your own thread if you’d like this answered. I’ll do it.
 
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OP: Let me create a hypothetical where a higher power tells you that there is no higher power. I will then call it a “thought exercise”.

OP telling us that he doesn’t understand faith without telling us he doesn’t understand faith.

Gary: I can’t follow instructions.

Also Gary: I’m threatened when someone challenges my faith.

Also, also Gary: I’m very thin skinned.
 
just after christmas, i went into cardiac arrest, my wife performed CPR, police defribbed me, and then i was in the hospital for 10 days (and got a new ICD implant)

so i came pretty close to dying...and i'm sorry (or happy, depending on your perspective) to report that there wasn't anything there. nobody to meet me. no light or harp music. no eternal hellfire. just darkness.
 
Gary: I can’t follow instructions.

Also Gary: I’m threatened when someone challenges my faith.

Also, also Gary: I’m very thin skinned.

Threatened? You’re not challenging my faith at all. I’m just convinced you do t understand it while attempting to created a hypothetical that make zero sense.
 
Threatened? You’re not challenging my faith at all. I’m just convinced you do t understand it while attempting to created a hypothetical that make zero sense.

Your faith is as strong as your ability to deal with a random internet post on a message board. Flimsy at best.

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But yeah, please keep defending it to someone who doesn’t give a phuck about you or your “god.”

Or, be a man and answer the OP instead of making it about you because of your insecurity.
 
just after christmas, i went into cardiac arrest, my wife performed CPR, police defribbed me, and then i was in the hospital for 10 days (and got a new ICD implant)

so i came pretty close to dying...and i'm sorry (or happy, depending on your perspective) to report that there wasn't anything there. nobody to meet me. no light or harp music. no eternal hellfire. just darkness.
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Here's a thought experiment for you and my friend @Hawki97

Suppose you're offered this deal: You have go to Church for 1 hour a week and the rest of the week, you try to live the Golden Rule. In return, you get an infinite amount of bliss after you die.

Would you take that deal?
Sure.

I mean it's a thought experiment, so we're assuming that the outcome will be true (and that infinite bliss is a good thing).
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Now here's one for you....

You go to Heaven. What do you look like?

Do you look your best - like how you looked when you felt you looked your best. Young, healthy, slim, all your hair, whatever...?

Or maybe you look like you always wanted to look. Like the best features of the best looking movie stars?

I figure you're in Heaven. You don't want to wake up in the morning, look in the mirror, and see an ugly face staring back at you.

The followup question is a little trickier. How do you recognize your friends and relatives in Heaven? If they look like their best selves, or like an amalgamation of their favorite movie stars, will you ever be able to spot them? And would you be comfortable seeing your Mom looking like an AI-enhanced teenage cheerleader?
 
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Sure.

I mean it's a thought experiment, so we're assuming that the outcome will be true (and that infinite bliss is a good thing).
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Now here's one for you....

You go to Heaven. What do you look like?

Do you look your best - like how you looked when you felt you looked your best. Young, healthy, slim, all your hair, whatever...?

Or maybe you look like you always wanted to look. Like the best features of the best looking movie stars?

I figure you're in Heaven. You don't want to wake up in the morning, look in the mirror, and see an ugly face staring back at you.

The followup question is a little trickier. How do you recognize your friends and relatives in Heaven? If they look like their best selves, or like an amalgamation of their favorite movie stars, will you ever be able to spot them? And would you be comfortable seeing your Mom looking like an AI-enhanced teenage cheerleader?

We will look like radiance. Humans can shift between their new, Heavenly bodies or their old ones.

For example, you may get to meet Grandma and she changes from her Heavenly radiant body to a human form you would recognize her in.
 
We will look like radiance. Humans can shift between their new, Heavenly bodies or their old ones.

For example, you may get to meet Grandma and she changes from her Heavenly radiant body to a human form you would recognize her in.
I was thinking that we would look to ourselves the way we want to look, and look to others they way they remember us. Or something like that.
 
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No need to confirm your faith to all of us or say this hypothetical is wrong because it’s not correct or possible. This is a thought exercise and I promise god will not be watching the thread so you don’t need to worry about eternal repercussion in answering.

The scenario: Right after you died there was a period of five minutes where it is explained to you that there is no god and you will be returning to dust. No afterlife. No bliss. No nothing. Everything is over.

The question: What would your feelings be finding that out? Would you be angry/upset that you spent so much of your time and treasure on something that didn’t exist? Would you feel contentment that you led a principled life you’re happy with? Some in between? Something else?

Let’s hear your thoughts.

Also, no asking non-religious folk the opposite scenario (e.g. finding out there is a god). Start your own thread you bastards.
Dude, God is always watching, even when you fap.

It's difficult to provide an honest assessment of what my feelings would be since it's a 0% probability in my mind.
 
LOL. OP f.ucks up his own hypothetical. Maybe try googling “Pascal’s Gambit”.

Lulz. Redneck phuck up with nothing going for him so he has to believe in a sky fairy to make his existence seem worthwhile is so weak in his faith he gets triggered by a question on the internet. Love it. Keep 'em coming you phucking nobody!
 
No need to confirm your faith to all of us or say this hypothetical is wrong because it’s not correct or possible. This is a thought exercise and I promise god will not be watching the thread so you don’t need to worry about eternal repercussion in answering.

The scenario: Right after you died there was a period of five minutes where it is explained to you that there is no god and you will be returning to dust. No afterlife. No bliss. No nothing. Everything is over.

The question: What would your feelings be finding that out? Would you be angry/upset that you spent so much of your time and treasure on something that didn’t exist? Would you feel contentment that you led a principled life you’re happy with? Some in between? Something else?

Let’s hear your thoughts.

Also, no asking non-religious folk the opposite scenario (e.g. finding out there is a god). Start your own thread you bastards.
How am I finding this out if there’s no afterlife or higher being?

But I’ll play the game as it was drawn up… when I die assuming there’s no afterlife, then who cares, I tried to be a decent person, tried to be truthful, grateful, and respectful. I lived my life the way I could explain it to God if I had to… and yet will still fall short… but I have Jesus to fill in the voids.
 
How am I finding this out if there’s no afterlife or higher being?

But I’ll play the game as it was drawn up… when I die assuming there’s no afterlife, then who cares, I tried to be a decent person, tried to be truthful, grateful, and respectful. I lived my life the way I could explain it to God if I had to… and yet will still fall short… but I have Jesus to fill in the voids.

There is a long exchange between myself and @LuciousBDragon in this thread explaining it. It involves a silver dildo and a guy named Steve. You're free to catch up.
 
Lulz. Redneck phuck up with nothing going for him so he has to believe in a sky fairy to make his existence seem worthwhile is so weak in his faith he gets triggered by a question on the internet. Love it. Keep 'em coming you phucking nobody!
All I did was observe your fallacy. Which sent you into severe triggeration. Poor kiddo.
 
We will look like radiance. Humans can shift between their new, Heavenly bodies or their old ones.

For example, you may get to meet Grandma and she changes from her Heavenly radiant body to a human form you would recognize her in.

Off topic of the OP and no offense, but I'm not sure how we're supposed to take any of it seriously with posts like this.
 
No need to confirm your faith to all of us or say this hypothetical is wrong because it’s not correct or possible. This is a thought exercise and I promise god will not be watching the thread so you don’t need to worry about eternal repercussion in answering.

The scenario: Right after you died there was a period of five minutes where it is explained to you that there is no god and you will be returning to dust. No afterlife. No bliss. No nothing. Everything is over.

The question: What would your feelings be finding that out? Would you be angry/upset that you spent so much of your time and treasure on something that didn’t exist? Would you feel contentment that you led a principled life you’re happy with? Some in between? Something else?

Let’s hear your thoughts.

Also, no asking non-religious folk the opposite scenario (e.g. finding out there is a god). Start your own thread you bastards.
I'd shoot Steve, and take his place.........









Plot twist- Steve has known all along that this was how his end would come. That's why he's called All-knowing Steve, and not Everlasting Steve......
 
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