Well a logical discussion would certainly entail leaving you out…
Carl Sagan on the Existence of God
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The only evidence the Bible offers is for the people who believe the stories in the Bible. There's no evidence of anything.
Not avoiding it all …
Genesis 5:1-This is the book of Adam’s history. In the day that God created Adam, HE made him in the likeness of God.”
Is that not clear enough for you ?
Pretty clear isn’t it?
So in other words the fact that the Bible discussed the circle or sphere of the earth long before it was known to be fact by humans means nothing ?
Perhaps the prophecy regarding the fall of Babylon some 200 years before it happened move the needle at all for ya? Including how it would happen and the details.?
point is you have nothing to base you’re mindless dribble over except your own silly thinking . Not sure where u pulled that stuff out , but it’s some whacked out stuff
You believe stories that were written thousands of years ago by people who had no understanding of present-day context, and these stories should be applied literally to present day dealings. And you're telling me that my ideas are whacked out? You just need a time machine and you'll be set.
First of all God is spirit . Last I checked there is not a physical body.
Jesus himself said this in John 4:24-
“God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.”
That's just it, you haven't checked. You haven't checked anything. You're just going by something somebody wrote down 4,000 years ago. There's no evidence for anything. And if it weren't a male why would they have to call him a He. The only thing that distinguishes anything as a male is a having a penis. If God were truly recognized as spirit, then there's no need to refer to the Spirit with any gender-specific pronoun whatsoever.
Yeah well those same things written long ago are still as valid today as when they were written . The Bible’s counsel is timeless. It could be argued that there isn’t one problem that we face as humans that couldn’t be solved by God’s laws or principles.
It certainly could be argued by somebody who's trapped in a religion.
Well if you have no respect for the Bible there is no use discussing .
However you are right about one thing : men did write the Bible . However they were inspired by Gods’s spirit to write down His thoughts .
2Peter 1:21-For you know this first, that no prophecy of Scripture springs from any private interpretation. 21 For prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will, but men spoke from God as they were moved by Holy Spirit”
if that’s not clear enough for you then I’m not sure what to tell ya
I have respect for God. I'm ambivalent about the Bible and other religious texts.
Trapped lol?
I would say people who have no have no spiritual need are the ones trapped . Slaves to a pointless existence. Slaves to their own imperfections , slaves to living for the moment . Well good luck with that
And there is one true religion .
Jesus said it would be identified by its works .
People need to do a little personal research and examine the religious organization they belong to .
do they follow Christ’s teaching really.
Here’s one big one: Jesus said his true followers would be no part of the world including its politics . How many people who claim to be Christians support earthly governments? Why would you support an earthly government when you should be following Christ as your only leader ?
Just food for thought …..
LOL
The Mexican Empire will rise against the Canadians and they will march to Ottawa. They will destroy the city and put to the sword every man, woman , and child. Every stone will be torn asunder and thrown into the sea and no one will inhabit Ottawa forever.
Book of thbb 1:1
So now if Canada ever falls - no matter how or to whom or when and no matter what happens to the great city of Ottawa or its denizens - I have made a Biblically "accurate" prediction. All that needs to happen is for Ottawa to change hands...hell, I could claim to be a prophet after their next election based on your metrics.
Isaiah predicted the Medes would take Babylon. Nope. He predicted that no child would survive. Nope. He predicted that Babylon would never be inhabited again. Nope. Not a single thing he predicted came to pass except that the city would meet the same fate as - well - pretty much EVERY city of that time.
It's the intellectual dishonesty that really rankles. Don't claim stupid crap that can easily be disproven. And please don't torture the verses to try to cram Isaiah's "prophecy" into the truth. That's so tiresome.
In that passage, Jesus is talking about a literal place outside of Jerusalem called Gehenna. "Hell" is a poor translation.
The question is were those stories in the Bible intended to be taken literally.
https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=E&prefer=lang&docid=2018087&par=0
you can give this a read and get back to me . Sorry if facts upset you
Fascinating. I’m mean, other than not knowing the definitions of any of the words you were using….
All those Jews that wrote the Bible.
The process of realizing how the NT was written and compiled is even more revealing in terms of the realization that you "don't take all this stuff literally." When you realize that the first "Bibles" were all HAND-WRITTEN. I challenge anyone- a person- to write-out the entire Bible, longhand, and get it absolutely perfect to what they are copying.
Keep that up. That's the best way to convert fewer and fewer people. It's been working, perfectly.
Intended? I dunno. Those people are long gone.
I don't see many Jews taking their insubordinate children to the gates of the city and stoning them to death.
The best guess of literacy in antiquity was ten percent. The first canon of the New Testament wasn't decided upon for a few hundred years after Christ.
We already know there are more copying errors than words in the NT.
There are many problems with this idea of "Bible alone."
I'm not talking about the Mosaic Law. I'm talking about stories like Jonah inside the belly of a whale or a talking snake in the Garden of Eden.
The Jewish nation of course used scrolls of the Old Testament. Of course after Christ the apostles like paul wrote letters and sent them out to the congregations(paul was responsible for almost half of the New Testament).
And, you're presumptuous, arrogant, and ignorant enough to believe that anyone who doesn't subscribe to your religion must be lacking in spiritual awareness and a slave to pointless existence?
Please continue to add more of this kind of thinking to the discussion. The offering plates are going to be empty, the longer you keep this up!
Ohhh, yeah. Same with Noah and "two of every animal" on the Ark.
Its not about converting . It’s about fact. It’s pretty clear you aren’t really interested in facts. You just want to argue . Best wishes to you sir.
I saw several great documentaries about the Dead Sea Scrolls, that also included some of the ancient manuscripts that were used to compile some of the Gospels. I think I was in high school when I realized that the Apostles were all illiterate, as was Jesus of Nazareth.
Sorry to burst your bubble but there is no collection plate passed with me.. the point is if you really want to find the truth it’s there. You just have to be willing to put in the work. Most people don’t want to . They want to keep living their lives as they see fit.
You don't believe in the great commission?
And what "facts" do you think you are providing that he isn't?
Lol . Yeah the only begotten son of God was illiterate ? 😂😂. Wow well once again you’re throwing stuff to the wall to see if it sticks .
you enjoy your evening there chief.
you really hit me hard with so much legitimate information
