Are you saying we shouldn’t upset China? Or just popping off as usual?You don’t understand the hierarchy of the relationship. US calls the shots….
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Are you saying we shouldn’t upset China? Or just popping off as usual?You don’t understand the hierarchy of the relationship. US calls the shots….
Oh littlez 😂Are you saying we shouldn’t upset China? Or just popping off as usual?
Oh you got me again binny. Mr moderate Republican.Oh littlez 😂
So, we now control Taiwan? No wonder China is pissed. Bins, please tell us, what makes you the expert on the US/Taiwan relationship?You don’t understand the hierarchy of the relationship. US calls the shots….
It’s an opinion. Feel free to disagree…So, we now control Taiwan? No wonder China is pissed. Bins, please tell us, what makes you the expert on the US/Taiwan relationship?
Didn't Taiwan welcome her with open arms? I am sure that they knew what the repercussions could be and would have told Pelosi not to come if they didn't want her there. So far, it is a lot of show from China but no effects. China had to do something to somewhat save face. I will be surprised if there is anything else they do.
Are you saying Pelosi shouldn't have gone?
If you're wondering why that matters, they need the sand to fabricate computer chips...
We need to way the costs and benefits to decide, right?Are you saying Pelosi shouldn't have gone?
Not seeming like a pussy.We need to way the costs and benefits to decide, right?
What was the benefit?
We need to way the costs and benefits to decide, right?
What was the benefit?
If you disagree I know I am right.I don't see any benefit except for Pelosi's ego.
I understand completely. You are suggesting that Taiwan asked the US not to make the visit and the US did anyway. Let's see some evidence of that.You don’t understand the hierarchy of the relationship. US calls the shots….
I didn’t suggest that at all…I understand completely. You are suggesting that Taiwan asked the US not to make the visit and the US did anyway. Let's see some evidence of that.
Should not be political. 10 years ago 99% percent of Americans would be in favor of telling China to F Off. What’s changed?I'm seeing Republicans that are anti- provoking China and Liberals that are ready to kick China off the face of the Earth.
What is going on?
Should not be political. 10 years ago 99% percent of Americans would be in favor of telling China to F Off. What’s changed?
100 percent tribalism. No question about it!Uhh, tribalism in the US?
I'm with you by the way. China isn't stupid enough to threaten nukes like Russia.
You stated it as a fact, not your opinion. In my opinion, you are wrong, but I am not an expert either.It’s an opinion. Feel free to disagree…
All of them. LOLNope….which post?
You can’t read properly 😀All of them. LOL
Oh no, we are in deep trouble. LOL. Bins, you are really going out of your way to find opinions that are crtical of the visit and now these actions taken by China. Are you supportive of her visit or not?China cuts off vital US contacts over Pelosi Taiwan visit
WASHINGTON (AP) — China cut off contacts with the United States on vital issues Friday — including military matters and crucial climate cooperation — as concerns rose that the Communist government's hostile reaction to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's Taiwan visit could signal a lasting, more...apnews.com
So they halted talks that they never really planned on making any impactful changes in. Not sure if I would consider that forceful measure.China cuts off vital US contacts over Pelosi Taiwan visit
WASHINGTON (AP) — China cut off contacts with the United States on vital issues Friday — including military matters and crucial climate cooperation — as concerns rose that the Communist government's hostile reaction to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's Taiwan visit could signal a lasting, more...apnews.com
I've said in this very thread that I supported her visit. Can't let China dictate to us....Oh no, we are in deep trouble. LOL. Bins, you are really going out of your way to find opinions that are crtical of the visit and now these actions taken by China. Are you supportive of her visit or not?
I agree....So they halted talks that they never really planned on making any impactful changes in. Not sure if I would consider that forceful measure.
Am I wrong to conclude that you’re trying to make a point with this constant doom and gloom, here comes China posting? In this thread you’ve gone from “She HAS to go now,” to updating us every time Xi frowns when he thinks of the US. Methinks had Pelosi not gone, you’d be inundating us with wingnut opinion pieces on why the Biden administration looks weak, but now that she has gone, it’s a constant stream of “we’re all gonna die.”China letting us have a good look at their capabilities…
China to begin live-fire military exercises near Taiwan coast in wake of Pelosi visit – as it happened | Taiwan | The Guardian
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Not my intent...Am I wrong to conclude that you’re trying to make a point with this constant doom and gloom, here comes China posting? In this thread you’ve gone from “She HAS to go now,” to updating us every time Xi frowns when he thinks of the US. Methinks had Pelosi not gone, you’d be inundating us with wingnut opinion pieces on why the Biden administration looks weak, but now that she has gone, it’s a constant stream of “we’re all gonna die.”
Interesting.
Would you just make this easier on everyone and get yourself into a proper pigeon hole!Not my intent...
I think the situation garners attention and I post articles that I think are relevant.
I supported the visit....still support the visit. That said...the visit has ramifications. So far the Chinese response has mostly been bluster. I do think they're giving the US a good look at their capabilities which I find interesting...
I can't...not in my DNA. I like to argue too muchWould you just make this easier on everyone and get yourself into a proper pigeon hole!
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Lol - you clearly implied that Taiwan had no power to tell Pelosi not to come and that the US was forcing this visit on them. That's bullshit.You can’t read properly 😀
No....I think agreeing to the visit was a foregone conclusion. Taiwan is in a constant battle to be recognized as a independent nation/entity....they're not about to say no to a visit from Pelosi in that context. They welcome any recognition of their legitimacy.Lol - you clearly implied that Taiwan had no power to tell Pelosi not to come and that the US was forcing this visit on them. That's bullshit.
Because they wanted her to visit. You continue to suggest they didn't want her to come but had no choice. That's bullshit.No....I think agreeing to the visit was a foregone conclusion. Taiwan is in a constant battle to be recognized as a independent nation/entity....they're not about to say no to a visit from Pelosi in that context. They welcome any recognition of their legitimacy.
I just don't think saying no was even considered by Taiwan as a possibility.
Ummm....I just said they agreed to the visit because they seek recognition of their legitimacy.Because they wanted her to visit. You continue to suggest they didn't want her to come but had no choice. That's bullshit.
I can't believe no one has called out this WOB!We need to way the costs and benefits to decide, right?
What was the benefit?
GFYUmmm....I just said they agreed to the visit because they seek recognition of their legitimacy.
How is that saying "they didn't want her to visit"?
If you can quote any post of mine that says I think they didn't want her to visit....quote it...if not STFU.
Didn't Taiwan welcome her with open arms? I am sure that they knew what the repercussions could be and would have told Pelosi not to come if they didn't want her there. So far, it is a lot of show from China but no effects. China had to do something to somewhat save face. I will be surprised if there is anything else they do.
What were they supposed to do…tell her not to come? They rely on the US for weapons and support v China.
WTF? You asked if Taiwan was supposed to tell her not to come - the answer is YES if they didn't want her to come. They did. They welcomed her. This isn't the US or Nancy Pelosi forcing themselves on Taiwan. That suggestion is absurd.
You don’t understand the hierarchy of the relationship. US calls the shots….