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Here's some reason for optimism. Marinelli handled McFadden in freestyle recently. McFadden wins the Cliff Keen. Sure, different styles and all, but folk is Alex's strength. You gotta like that.
Here we go again. You moved back to Ia I'm moving back to Scottsdale, but I still grew up with Gable and not a troll. I picked Nickal at the beginning of last year and you called me a troll for PSU. How about I know something about wrestling?
And if he and his family prefer he red shirt? If anytyhing knowing that two wrestlers like Warner and Lee will be there for the next 4 years will help with recruiting.
What a completely clueless official. These clowns are the main reason wrestling loses fans. Let a guy back up and hang on like that without even a warning is ridiculous. Killing our sport.
Officiating is so different from official to official it's ridiculous. College wrestling shouldn't battle problems like this with bad refs. Get these guys on the same page...
Oliver looked great at Midlands too...until Sorensen beat him in the finals. At NCAAs, Oliver was majored by Chisko who was majored by Brandon. Against anybody not named Zain, Sorensen has pretty much been money for the past two years. A few losses here and there but nothing he hasn't paid back at the end of the season.
He has never finished less than 4th when it counts. Yes he is not very exciting sometimes but he will take care of business in March.
197- Kolin Moore, OSU, PINS Haught in quick fashion in the 1st !
No bid deal. Warnerov > Miklus > Haught. Warnerov = Moore. See, the math works out.
Seriously, though -- very impressive.
No bid deal. Warnerov > Miklus > Haught. Warnerov = Moore. See, the math works out.
Seriously, though -- very impressive.
Haha...just when you think Moore is looking meh
Know it is early but watching the CLV Ohio State looks tough.
Penn State best bet is to pull the shirt on N. Lee. I don't think
they can afford to not get few points this year from 125 to 141.
Penn State best bet is to pull the shirt on N. Lee. I don't think
they can afford to not get few points this year from 125 to 141.
Is Cornell competing for a national title? Didn't stop Yianni from competing.
Koll doing what’s best for his wrestler not necessarily his teams future..
Does Cornell have a probable AA at his weight other than Yianni? I actually don't know, but I highly doubt it. Furthermore, Iowa and Cornell are an apple and an orange. Cornell is almost never competing for national titles, whereas Iowa is used to doing so and is working to get back on top. I don't think they're really comparable situations.
Couldn’t agree more. And given how great Yianni looks, Lee’s loss to him looks okay.
As an aside, Desanto destroying a lot of guys. Imagine a healthy S Lee (Sorry to poke that wound)
Ivy League. Red shirt is not an option.
Well it is, but they just don't call it that. The Ivy is creative that way
This is the the correct answer. Koll has no choice. Are the rules different if an Ivy League kid wanted to take an Olympic redshirt?
Cornell has Finger Lakes Community College wrestling team and Big Red Wrestling Club in lieu of Redshirting. Kyle Dake is a coach at Finger Lakes CC
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And Tompkins Cortland Community College where they take "hard" classes that transfer and they still work out with the wrestling team. Macri, Dean, Palacios, Kolls kid and virtually every other wrestler does the same at Cornell.
Harvard sets kids in prep schools like Exeter Academy for a post-graduate year so they can develop athletically and academically.
Like I said, the Ivy is creative
Not if he is already at Cornell. Can't redshirt him. Too late to greyshirt him. Might as well let him wrestle if he's the best guy.
But the wrestler can always withdraw from Cornell for a semester or whatever and do the steps outlined above and then "apply" for re-admittance the following year after working out with the club and taking community college classes that transfer into Cornell.
Doesn't have to be an Olympic redshirt
Good point -- I'd forgotten that. Although Ivies do tend to get around the no-redshirt rule by grayshirting guys. I guess this makes Cornell and Iowa even more of an apple and an orange.
I guess we can defer this conversation until next year. At the end of the day we will leave it up to Brands and the wreslers to do what they think is best for the team and the individuals. I know this year is going to be a struggle and even if we put our best lineup out there we probably won't win a national title. Penn St only loses Retherford and will still be a force next year so we will see how we compete against them in 2018-2019. I just hate seeing us look this bad with a narrow victory over Illinois. Maybe I'm just overreacting to one dual early in the season. Right now I feel like Sorensen, Kemerer, and Stoll are our only likely AA's. Downey included if he pans out. Still puts us outside the top 5 IMO.
Just to clarify some things for some posters here cornell does not send guys to finger lakes community college. They also do not have any wrestling program there. Cornell sends most true freshman to Tompkins Cortland Community College (TC3) and those guys train at the finger lakes wrestling club. Also it is not too late for Yianni to have a grey shirt. If at any time he wants to use it he would have to take a year off from school. There’s been Ivy League guys who have already done it before.
You could say i backed your points and added to them
Drexel is not in a position to save up for anything. Maybe Desanto wanted to go right away. Lee is coming of an ACL injury. 197 pounders usually need a bit more time to fill out like the big boys. We don't know what Lee or Warner want to do but if they were cleared and insist on going right away I am sure you would see them.
Speaking of DeSanto, to put things in perspective, he's pretty much killing it as a true freshman at 133, having just majored a complete stud in Micic and racking up the points in the process. Spencer took him on in the PA state finals last season after he dropped a weight class to create the match-up, with a torn ACL and mono, not having really even trained for over a month. . . and lost on a last-second somewhat controversial takedown. And just as an aside, there were people trying to talk Spencer out of even wrestling in the finals, as his body was pretty much shot by then, but he insisted -- not necessarily because he wanted to win the 4th state title and become an undefeated 4x state champ, but because he wanted the challenge and didn't want to miss the opportunity.
So this dynamo who's tearing it up in D1, a weight class up from Spencer, was barely able to beat him even with the benefit of basically being a weight class bigger (although yes, he did make the cut), Spencer having a torn ACL plus mono plus poor cardio due to having been unable to train leading up to State. That says a whole lot about what a special wrestler Spencer is. . . not to mention the kind of young man he is.
He's just not in the same league with his brother...sadly for him, not even close. I kind of feel sorry for the kid...
