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Clinton on why she lost

Yes, all of those factors had an effect, but the fact remains that the only reason she lost was because of a small group of voters in select states who derelicted their duty and betrayed their country by voting for a horrifically unqualified and intellectually, temperamentally and morally unfit con man for President of the United States.

It could just as easily be blamed on any state that voted red. Not just the close calls.

But I would agree that the political climate has reached the point where it's almost nothing but football game frenzy between the Red and the Blue and there are VERY few who will research and cross the line either direction to chose the best candidate. However, that's the environment the game is played in these days.
 
Because America is finely tuned to the consumption of garbage. Junk entertainment, junk food, junk home goods. We're trained to buy crap, throw it away, replace it with more crap. We've become consumers of brands as much as we are consumers of products. We'll purchase on feeling before we'll purchase on fact.

This is why.

Donald J. Trump is a big, orange mirror reflecting back to us how empty, how superficial, how garbage so much of our American culture has become.

Trump tapped into "feelings" and rode the wave of adolescent-like emotion all the way to POTUS.

Quite ironic given how Rs are always calling Ds the party of feelings.

Case in point is all the fake stuff people eat up and regurgitate from the various "news" sources, including, of all things, a FB feed. Right here in this thread OiT posted an easily debunked graphic. Why bother checking to see of this too-good-to-be-true graphic is actually too good to be true? It feels so true, so it must me true.

Junk.
Says the party of "offended"....
 
Says the party of "offended"....
I represent no party. I'm a branding consultant. If you view what's happening, the Trump phenomenon, American consumerism, through the lens of branding, you won't be coming back with a defensive deflection.
 
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Wrong. She lost because a minority of voters in selected states derelicted their duty and betrayed their country by voting for an obviously unqualified and intellectually, temperamentally and morally unfit con man for the most important job in the world.
This is the 12406712th time I've seen you post this. Get a job
 
I represent no party. I'm a branding consultant. If you view what's happening, the Trump phenomenon, American consumerism, through the lens of branding, you won't be coming back with a defensive deflection.
he branded it all very brilliantly, from the maga to the hats to the law and order to the wall to the anti-Obama and anti-hills. what a success story!
 
Because America is finely tuned to the consumption of garbage. Junk entertainment, junk food, junk home goods. We're trained to buy crap, throw it away, replace it with more crap. We've become consumers of brands as much as we are consumers of products. We'll purchase on feeling before we'll purchase on fact.

This is why.

Donald J. Trump is a big, orange mirror reflecting back to us how empty, how superficial, how garbage so much of our American culture has become.

Trump tapped into "feelings" and rode the wave of adolescent-like emotion all the way to POTUS.

Quite ironic given how Rs are always calling Ds the party of feelings.

Case in point is all the fake stuff people eat up and regurgitate from the various "news" sources, including, of all things, a FB feed. Right here in this thread OiT posted an easily debunked graphic. Why bother checking to see of this too-good-to-be-true graphic is actually too good to be true? It feels so true, so it must me true.

Junk.
so when you consult do you point to the winning trump campaign and tell your clients, "no you need immature junk garbage, total fakery, to win! let us make up fake graphics and idiotic slogans for your company right now! this is what America wants!"
 
he branded it all very brilliantly, from the maga to the hats to the law and order to the wall to the anti-Obama and anti-hills. what a success story!
Branding is more than just the visuals, it's about coded language. Trump tapped into the hate, rage, and anger that has been well-groomed by Right wing talk radio, by Rush, by O'Reilly, Hannity, Breitbart, on down the line. A lot of this stuff was around pre-Obama, but it experienced a boom once Obama won the presidency.

Trump has an instinct for branding. It's his one singular "talent". It's also almost entirely empty, false-promises branding, which is why he so successfully transitioned his schtick into politics.

Trump is the mirror.

And if you like what you see? Sad.
 
She's dying brah.

We're all dying.
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so when you consult do you point to the winning trump campaign and tell your clients, "no you need immature junk garbage, total fakery, to win! let us make up fake graphics and idiotic slogans for your company right now! this is what America wants!"
Doesn't fit with my value system, so won't do it. My approach to my branding work is to find the absolute essence of a brand, distill an entity to its most basic, most truthful value statement, then build its brand outward from that.

It's like building a home. You want to start with the best foundation possible. Unfortunately, Trump lacks a foundation. He's all fake fancy furniture and fixtures and finishing materials.
 
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Branding is more than just the visuals, it's about coded language. Trump tapped into the hate, rage, and anger that has been well-groomed by Right wing talk radio, by Rush, by O'Reilly, Hannity, Breitbart, on down the line. A lot of this stuff was around pre-Obama, but it experienced a boom once Obama won the presidency.

Trump has an instinct for branding. It's his one singular "talent". It's also almost entirely empty, false-promises branding, which is why he so successfully transitioned his schtick into politics.

Trump is the mirror.

And if you like what you see? Sad.
yeah, because millions upon millions of people are filled with hate and anger all over the usa? you are freakin crazy as heck. no, just no.
 
So, if you are insinuating that Trump articulated his agenda better, then I would say that is a damning mark on where we are as a society.

He articulated it pretty well. It was that only rich, white Americans matter and there are a lot of stupid people who will vote for him because white is part of that formula.
 
Doesn't fit with my value system, so won't do it. My approach to my branding work is to find the absolute essence of a brand, distill an entity to its most basic, most truthful value statement, then build its brand outward from that.

It's like building a home. You want to start with the best foundation possible. Unfortunately, Trump lacks a foundation. He's all fake fancy furniture and fixtures and finishing materials.
what if he started with the basic foundation that America is great and blessed by God and we can all work together to make it great again? what if that was true? jeebus, being this negative is no way to go through life, son.
 
she got worse not better. this isn't some sort of conspiracy theory or assumption. it was bad enough that she QUIT as secretary of state.

I tried. I tried to get you to use your brain and listen to something besides rumors and theories. But I give up. If the news is bad about Hillary you're going to believe it with no proof. Yes, she was sick. There is no proof it continued beyond a couple of fainting spells during a nonstop campaign. That's all you got.

But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. You won. Your side elected a narcissistic, ignorant, reality TV host to the highest office in the land. Congrats, your side succeeded in dumbing down America enough that truth doesn't matter anymore, just who repeats the lies loudest and more often. You won. Continue to believe whatever you want, turn off your brain and tune in to Alex Jones. You're going to do it anyway.
 
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yeah, because millions upon millions of people are filled with hate and anger all over the usa? you are freakin crazy as heck. no, just no.
Yes, to varying degrees. People feel victimized, be it by Obama, by neoliberalism, by globalism, hell, by feminism and Affirmative Action. Not everyone is a KKK white nationalist Confederate flag-waver. But damn near everybody is at least a little bit hateful, angry, and we're Americans, so we're almost constitutionally opposed to blaming ourselves in any way for the way things are.

So Trump became this vehicle of cathartic other-blaming. And he also has all this coded white-male-entitlement language and behavior that, unfortunately, people like (even if they wouldn't outwardly admit it). People want to belong to the power group, and even more, if they feel they are in a power group and that power status is in threat? Watch out.

Trump is the mirror.
 
what if he started with the basic foundation that America is great and blessed by God and we can all work together to make it great again? what if that was true? jeebus, being this negative is no way to go through life, son.
MAGA is coded language. Not a great foundation. More empty window-dressing given that he didn't bother defining what it even meant. Brilliant branding? Sure, in the short term. But eventually its emptiness reveals itself.

Blessed by God? Every candidate says this crap.
 
what if he started with the basic foundation that America is great and blessed by God and we can all work together to make it great again? what if that was true? jeebus, being this negative is no way to go through life, son.
I'm not seeing the negativity, by the way. You want me to reflect back onto you some pretty picture that makes you feel warm inside?

Maybe you're just starting to see the mirror and you're not liking what you're seeing reflected back.
 
I represent no party. I'm a branding consultant. If you view what's happening, the Trump phenomenon, American consumerism, through the lens of branding, you won't be coming back with a defensive deflection.
American consumerism has been occurring for more than just the past 9 months. Why are you so diligent to bring it up now?

You past postings show you do represent a party, have you suddenly (just today) decided you don't?
 
American consumerism has been occurring for more than just the past 9 months. Why are you so diligent to bring it up now?

You past postings show you do represent a party, have you suddenly (just today) decided you don't?
There is such a thing as the culmination of a thing. Of course consumerism has been occurring. What's changed is the level and type, and how the consumerist behavior has now extended into infotainment consumption—the combo of 24-hour "news" channels, 24-hour "news" talk radio, always-available "news" websites, ever-present Twitter "news" feeds, Facebook.

I have never claimed to represent a party. You assigned one to me. That's fine.

I'm going to end with this…

Think of the other candidate who generated the enthusiasm to match, if not exceed, that of Trump. The one whose rallies generated record crowds, greatly outnumbering those for Trump. His large crowds, the enthusiasm, these shared a common thread to Trump's campaign: Sanders was tapping into the sense of, the feeling of, victimhood. The difference being that Sanders actually has real ideas, workable ideas, based on a lifetime in politics and a keen understanding of what has worked, and why, in other parts of the world. Take a very close look, do some research, on Bernie's career. Start with his mayorship of Burlington, VT. Small city, sure, but a small city that face many issues most municipalities face in some degree or another. Check out what he did, whether it worked or not, and decide for yourself if it is scalable or not. Do this for his work as mayor, then repeat for the rest of his career. A lot of work, but then sustaining a truly functioning, truly democratic society is just that: work. It's not being spoon-fed narratives, often abjectly or partly false, gulping it down with gluttonous zeal.

Surely you'll scoff at this, but maybe consider why? We know why the DNC marginalized Bernie. But why is/was he marginalized by pretty much all power structures?

There is a great quote that I am trying to find, by I believe MLK, about how people who present threats to power are treated. They are usually dismissed and/or vilified, or killed. MLK was fine and safe when his work was focused on civil rights, because we're a country that believes in civil rights. Don't kill someone on civil rights or you'll martyr him. Where he became a real threat was when his message turned to the crimes of poverty and hunger in a capitalist society. It was then that he was really putting his life on the line. Do not touch capitalism. Never mind that the lords of capitalism siphon money the same way a socialist dictator has been guilty of doing.

You can apply this to Trump, even, with how he is being treated. The difference being, his "treatment" is not top-down driven, though surely you'll disagree. It is from ground-up. He stands as a threat to even further consolidate power away from the people. And besides that, he's just repulsive. And this is not media-driven, this negative reaction to Trump. The media treated Trump with kid gloves throughout his ascendancy. Of course now the media is scrutinizing and analyzing his every move, his every tweet, but this is more in response to the grassroots response than it is to some top-down narrative directive.

The bottom line is, Trump is empty branding, all emotion, all about how he makes people feel. If I'm a white man, deeply insecure to the point that the only thing that makes me feel good about myself is that I happen to be a white man? Trump is going to make me feel good.

He's going to make me feel good about objectifying women.

He's going to make me feel good about being leery of the brown family that moved into the neighborhood.

He's going to make me feel good about blaming every damn person and every damn thing for whatever it is that I feel so righteously angry or frustrated.

He's going to make me feel good for being a white man.

And he's going to make me feel nice and secure that he has my interests at heart, because he just "gets it".

Trump is a mirror. Hope you like what you see.
 
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Without reading any of this did she mention because she is an unlikable bitch? Really that's what it came down to.
 
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How bad was Obama that America went completely off-script for trump?! When will you Dems learn?
You R's chose him over 13 other candidates. Many of them were reasonable.

Start looking in the mirror. It's called accountability.
 
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I tried. I tried to get you to use your brain and listen to something besides rumors and theories. But I give up. If the news is bad about Hillary you're going to believe it with no proof. Yes, she was sick. There is no proof it continued beyond a couple of fainting spells during a nonstop campaign. That's all you got.

But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. You won. Your side elected a narcissistic, ignorant, reality TV host to the highest office in the land. Congrats, your side succeeded in dumbing down America enough that truth doesn't matter anymore, just who repeats the lies loudest and more often. You won. Continue to believe whatever you want, turn off your brain and tune in to Alex Jones. You're going to do it anyway.
is her continued fainting problems proof or not
 
There is such a thing as the culmination of a thing. Of course consumerism has been occurring. What's changed is the level and type, and how the consumerist behavior has now extended into infotainment consumption—the combo of 24-hour "news" channels, 24-hour "news" talk radio, always-available "news" websites, ever-present Twitter "news" feeds, Facebook.

I have never claimed to represent a party. You assigned one to me. That's fine.

I'm going to end with this…

Think of the other candidate who generated the enthusiasm to match, if not exceed, that of Trump. The one whose rallies generated record crowds, greatly outnumbering those for Trump. His large crowds, the enthusiasm, these shared a common thread to Trump's campaign: Sanders was tapping into the sense of, the feeling of, victimhood. The difference being that Sanders actually has real ideas, workable ideas, based on a lifetime in politics and a keen understanding of what has worked, and why, in other parts of the world. Take a very close look, do some research, on Bernie's career. Start with his mayorship of Burlington, VT. Small city, sure, but a small city that face many issues most municipalities face in some degree or another. Check out what he did, whether it worked or not, and decide for yourself if it is scalable or not. Do this for his work as mayor, then repeat for the rest of his career. A lot of work, but then sustaining a truly functioning, truly democratic society is just that: work. It's not being spoon-fed narratives, often abjectly or partly false, gulping it down with gluttonous zeal.

Surely you'll scoff at this, but maybe consider why? We know why the DNC marginalized Bernie. But why is/was he marginalized by pretty much all power structures?

There is a great quote that I am trying to find, by I believe MLK, about how people who present threats to power are treated. They are usually dismissed and/or vilified, or killed. MLK was fine and safe when his work was focused on civil rights, because we're a country that believes in civil rights. Don't kill someone on civil rights or you'll martyr him. Where he became a real threat was when his message turned to the crimes of poverty and hunger in a capitalist society. It was then that he was really putting his life on the line. Do not touch capitalism. Never mind that the lords of capitalism siphon money the same way a socialist dictator has been guilty of doing.

You can apply this to Trump, even, with how he is being treated. The difference being, his "treatment" is not top-down driven, though surely you'll disagree. It is from ground-up. He stands as a threat to even further consolidate power away from the people. And besides that, he's just repulsive. And this is not media-driven, this negative reaction to Trump. The media treated Trump with kid gloves throughout his ascendancy. Of course now the media is scrutinizing and analyzing his every move, his every tweet, but this is more in response to the grassroots response than it is to some top-down narrative directive.

The bottom line is, Trump is empty branding, all emotion, all about how he makes people feel. If I'm a white man, deeply insecure to the point that the only thing that makes me feel good about myself is that I happen to be a white man? Trump is going to make me feel good.

He's going to make me feel good about objectifying women.

He's going to make me feel good about being leery of the brown family that moved into the neighborhood.

He's going to make me feel good about blaming every damn person and every damn thing for whatever it is that I feel so righteously angry or frustrated.

He's going to make me feel good for being a white man.

And he's going to make me feel nice and secure that he has my interests at heart, because he just "gets it".

Trump is a mirror. Hope you like what you see.

That belongs in a major newspaper on the editorial page. It is reasoned logic presented on sterling silver. Magnificent and HROT is lucky to have this kind of post.
 
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This is the 12406712th time I've seen you post this. Get a job

Sorry, but it's always important to point out the truth of the matter whenever a Trump collaborator propounds some feeble justification for their betrayal of their country.
 
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You R's chose him over 13 other candidates. Many of them were reasonable.

Start looking in the mirror. It's called accountability.
The reason there weren't 13 other Democrats in the primary was they all knew who was going to be nominated. Everyone knew that running against Hillary would be a pointless drain of finances and political reputation, as any opposition would be straight in the crosshairs of the Clinton Machine. Sanders knew it too, but someone had to keep her as left as possible. She didn't destroy him (but was prepared to do so) because he was never a real threat. The DNC made sure of that.
 
Sorry, but it's always important to point out the truth of the matter whenever a Trump collaborator propounds some feeble justification for their betrayal of their country.
My eyes rolled back so far I almost fell out of my chair
 
You R's chose him over 13 other candidates. Many of them were reasonable.

Start looking in the mirror. It's called accountability.
Again - I didn't vote for him, I wrote my candidate in as I didn't like either. So if you with to label me a party, it would "I" for independent.

Accountability, the Dems know nothing of accountability - look at their nomination and how she failed (even after RIGGING the election).
 
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