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Close friend pleading with me to not vaccinate our baby

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Imagine this guy^ thinking he's open-minded when he vehemently attacks anything and everything negative, studies or otherwise, said about vaccines. As if they can do no wrong. It's a religion, and it's anything but open-minded.
I do when reading the study, and can easily come up to a theory as to why their thesis is wrong. Add in its authored by 2 biased individuals who have already had their studies pulled, and yes I have a pretty good idea what is going to happen here. That is about as open minded as it comes.
 
It's not the same study, as you mentioned in one of your many edits.
You are a moron, all edits were done, before you replied. And if you need a linked to that trashed study, here it is. That is what is referenced in the article that I had linked. Wow you really do struggle keeping up don't you.

 
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I do when reading the study, and can easily come up to a theory as to why their thesis is wrong. Add in its authored by 2 biased individuals who have already had their studies pulled, and yes I have a pretty good idea what is going to happen here. That is about as open minded as it comes.
That has nothing to do with being open-minded, btw. What happened is people couldn't handle the truth and they're having trouble with vaccine hesitancy so of course there's going to be a concerted effort to eliminate science badmouthing vaccines. Too much money to be made, too much money to be lost. So, so many f'ing pissed parents.
 
That has nothing to do with being open-minded, btw. What happened is people couldn't handle the truth and they're having trouble with vaccine hesitancy so of course there's going to be a concerted effort to eliminate science badmouthing vaccines. Too much money to be made, too much money to be lost. So, so many f'ing pissed parents.
You can't handle that this is published by 2 quacks. I'll make a bet with you, my guess is that article gets pulled in the next 30 days. You willing to take the bet?

Find some real researchers to do a full study, on all children in a state, all income levels, all education levels, and all spectrums of behaviors and other issues. You do that study and I will likely accept the findings. Since you morons need that full study lets do it. My guess is you won't accept the findings.
 
You are a moron, all edits were done, before you replied. And if you need a linked to that trashed study, here it is. That is what is referenced in the article that I had linked. Wow you really do struggle keeping up don't you.

Keep with the ad-hominem, it shows your position's weakness nicely. As I said, the study in your link is not the same study, as you thought it was in one of your multiple edits.
 
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You can't handle that this is published by 2 quacks. I'll make a bet with you, my guess is that article gets pulled in the next 30 days. You willing to take the bet?
Now THERE'S an open-minded post if I ever saw one 🤣

It may get pulled, who knows? It may not.
The tide may be turning. It may not.
People may just have to face the truth, they may not. We'll see.
 
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Or they are morons . . . you willing to accept that.
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I'm good with just waiting to see what happens. If RFK is confirmed, the VSD data is made public, and it indicates vaccines do not cause autism, then I will stop claiming that they do.
RFK won't release anything that hurts his position. Likely cherry picked info. Wow what a high degree of confidence. About as much as the CIA today on the source of Covid, a Low Probablity . . . more likely from clinic than a wet center.
 
I think RFK sees the writing on the wall.
Wow . . . You are unwilling to say he is biased, but that he sees the writing on the wall. Here is your best hope, is that gradual science finds more connections and it becomes more mainstream. Otherwise the writing on the wall will be that RFK, the above authors and yourself were all extremely misguided.
 
Wow . . . You are unwilling to say he is biased, but that he sees the writing on the wall. Here is your best hope, is that gradual science finds more connections and it becomes more mainstream. Otherwise the writing on the wall will be that RFK, the above authors and yourself were all extremely misguided.

Why wouldn't they have done legit science right from the start? They didn't. It has to make one wonder....why?

The manufacturers were getting their asses handed to them in court from all the injuries (oh maybe that's why 🤣), enough so the manufacturers threatened to stop making them. Then they were granted immunity. Then they added yet many more vaccines, again without the science to properly assess safety.

Then they claimed the science was settled. Obviously, a flat out lie. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that obviously something is wrong just based on these two inconvenient truths.

This is only part of what makes up the writing on the wall.

There's a whole laundry list of other bits of evidence that we've gone over many, many times. I can start naming some off if you really want me to again.

It's like you're putting a 1000 piece puzzle together of a pic of a giant pile of crap. Yep, we're far enough along to where it's looking an awful lot like a giant pile of crap.

What exactly do you expect RFK to think?
 
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Why wouldn't they have done legit science right from the start? They didn't. It has to make one wonder....why?

The manufacturers were getting their asses handed to them in court from all the injuries (oh maybe that's why 🤣), enough so the manufacturers threatened to stop making them. Then they were granted immunity. Then they added yet many more vaccines, again without the science to properly assess safety.

Then they claimed the science was settled. Obviously, a flat out lie. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that obviously something is wrong just based on these two inconvenient truths.

This is only part of what makes up the writing on the wall.

There's a whole laundry list of other bits of evidence that we've gone over many, many times. I can start naming some off if you really want me to again.

It's like you're putting a 1000 piece puzzle together of a pic of a giant pile of crap. Yep, we're far enough along to where it's looking an awful lot like a giant pile of crap.

What exactly do you expect RFK to think?
They have you just don’t want to accept it. You know open minded and all.

RFK is a sleazeball. If you can get by the fact he has had over 50 mistresses, his infidelity and sheer numbers caused his wife to commit suicide. That the entire Kennedy family has ostracized him. If he can get people to make healthier decisions, beyond that he is an odd odd duck and many would say he is the pile of crap. Including leverage being a 3rd party candidate into his position.
 
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Isn't that the problem with VAERS (according to Joes Place) - anyone can enter their data and there's no verification?

More Pharma-sponsored fraud.
Yes, and according to Joe anyone can just go in willy nilly and enter data, except the VAERS homepage states:
"Additionally, reports to VAERS that appear to be potentially false or fabricated with the intent to mislead CDC and FDA may be reviewed before they are added to the VAERS database.

Knowingly filing a false VAERS report is a violation of Federal law (18 U.S. Code § 1001) punishable by fine and imprisonment."

And that's beside the fact that it's not easy to enter data, according to healthcare worker's reports, and most people wouldn't have a motive to falsify data.

What happens to these guys who falsified the report of the 17,000 doctor's signatures? Where does that get reported that the American public has been lied to, except from the shared Twitter feeds containing the Jilian vid?
 
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They have you just don’t want to accept it. You know open minded and all.
If they did, you'd think it would have been posted here, or anywhere. Those studies would be readily available to counter vaccine hesitancy. You'd think HHS / CDC could come up with said studies when FOIA'd. You'd think that the package inserts would acknowledge legit longer-term, inert placebo controlled, and high power clinical trials if they existed. And you'd think that science that studied the vaccines other than MMR and the science that studied the other ingredients other than just thimerosal would be abundant and readily available if "they have".
 
RFK is a sleazeball. If you can get by the fact he has had over 50 mistresses, his infidelity and sheer numbers caused his wife to commit suicide. That the entire Kennedy family has ostracized him. If he can get people to make healthier decisions, beyond that he is an odd odd duck and many would say he is the pile of crap. Including leverage being a 3rd party candidate into his position.
He's been attacked and vilified in the mainstream in every way possible - obviously in attempts to sway public opinion on big money's greatest threat.

He's also helped a lot of people, and the environment, and is brave enough help the people stand up against corporate interests....you probably forgot to mention.
 
They have you just don’t want to accept it. You know open minded and all.

RFK is a sleazeball. If you can get by the fact he has had over 50 mistresses, his infidelity and sheer numbers caused his wife to commit suicide. That the entire Kennedy family has ostracized him. If he can get people to make healthier decisions, beyond that he is an odd odd duck and many would say he is the pile of crap. Including leverage being a 3rd party candidate into his position.
You're arguing with one of the dumbest MF'ers on this board. Best to just nod and feel sorry for people like them. Just a word of the wise
 
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