Conservative attacks on birth control could threaten access
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Hilarious that you, of all people, are calling out someone else for deflecting.
Lol.
Me: Pulls up HORT on my phone. Sees 15 new notifications.
“Looks like Riley has been putting in some work.”
Nothing screams #TEAMBLUE quite like accusing me of perceived deflections in past threads while ignoring the fact that in this very thread Chis is deflecting like a motherfvcker.
“Name ONE republican that wants to eliminate birth control”
Republican named.
“Oh so ONE republican wants to eliminate birth control”
Classic TJ, what a fvcking clown
Republican named.
“Oh so ONE republican wants to eliminate birth control”
Classic TJ, what a fvcking clown
You've been actively deflecting in this very thread. In fact, this is your attempt to deflect from the fact that you've been deflecting. That is soooooo TJ.
It's hilarious watching you shuffle and spin and flail.
One guy.
One guy tweeted that we should “look into” banning birth control pills.
One guy that no one here had ever heard of before and probably couldn’t recall his name right now unless they went back to page 3 to refresh their memory.
One guy who represents one of 110 state house districts in Michigan and couldn’t get birth control pills banned in his state if he made it his life’s work. If he introduced a bill tomorrow it would never even get a vote.
You guys spiked the football after gaining two yards on 3rd and 8.
One. I also asked multiple times in the same posts for examples of pending legislation anywhere in America that would ban condoms or birth control pills. I know you guys are determined to pretend that I didn’t, but it’s right there for anyone to read in post #s 90 and 93.
Have you found any yet? Because the larger point that I’ve been making since I got into this thread is that Dems are blatantly lying and trying to scare women into thinking Republicans are going to take away their birth control pills.
One state legislator in Michigan tweeting that maybe we should look into it doesn’t justify the lie.
Does a lawmaker need to propose legislation to approve of it?
We gave you what you asked for, if you think there aren’t more out there you’re kidding yourself.
Idk why watching what they’ve done post-Dobbs that you think them also wanting to target contraceptives as well is such a stretch. It fits their pro-life rhetoric.
They are targeting some contraceptives. They are not targeting all contraceptives. That’s the point I’ve been trying to make, over and over, in this thread.
There are Republican bills out there targeting emergency contraceptives. There are also bills targeting IUDs. I don’t know if there are any bills seeking to ban IUDs outright, but some Republicans certainly want to make it more difficult to get them.
There is no pending legislation that I’m aware of that would ban condoms or birth control pills. But Dems are trying to scare women into thinking those items will be banned.
Chis keeps screaming that Republicans 100% WILL immediately ban both if they get control. But the fact is it has been two years since Dobbs and zero states - not even the deepest red states - have made any move toward banning them.
Republican spent 50 years fighting Roe. They have spent 25 years fighting, to a lesser degree, emergency contraception. They had bills already written and ready to vote on the day Roe was overturned. Some states had even enacted laws that were designed to trigger into effect immediately if Roe was overturned.
There was/is no such legislation regarding condoms and the pill. There is no movement to ban either one. It’s 100% election year fearmongering by Dems.
But what makes you think they’d stop at “some”?
The best evidence is the fact that it has been two years since Dobbs and zero states have taken any steps toward banning condoms or birth control. Not Oklahoma or Louisiana. Not South Carolina or Iowa or West Virginia. Not Mississippi or Alabama or either of the Dakotas. Not even Texas or Utah.
Even in states where Republicans can do pretty much whatever they want to do and have enacted some very onerous abortion laws, there has been zero movement toward banning condoms or the pill. It’s just simply not on their agenda.
You previously conceded they’re attempting to ban at least some forms of contraceptives, aka birth controls, so I don’t get your point there.
As I said before, I don’t think they will try to de facto ban all of that…what I can see them trying to do is making it as difficult as possible to get them, and lead to de facto bans.
Similar to what they’re trying with abortion - most states aren’t outright trying to ban it, but they are coming as close to that line as they can.
I don’t see how it’s even possible that you still don’t get my point. I’ve explained it as thoroughly as I can. I give up.
You haven’t even made a dent in my argument. If you want to do any damage at all then you need to explain why not one Republican-controlled state legislature has made any move toward banning condoms or the pill.
You argue that, given the chance, Republicans will ban those things. You argue this despite the fact that they haven’t done so in places where they easily could have.
Republicans hold 80% of the seats in the Oklahoma legislature. They can do pretty much whatever they want to do and there’s not a damn thing that Democrats can do to stop it. They could ban condoms and the pill tomorrow if they wanted to. But in the two years since Dobbs they haven’t made a single move toward doing so.
Republicans hold a supermajority in Louisiana. They could ban condoms and the pill tomorrow if they wanted to. But so far not even a hint that they are interested in doing so.
The same is true of numerous other deep red states.
How do you explain that?
I haven't argued any of that. I've simply noted that you are being destroyed, yet again, and flailing, yet again. And it's hilarious.
Numerous posters are and you seem to have aligned yourself with them.
Do you agree with them that Republicans are planning to ban condoms and birth control pills? Or do you agree with me that Republicans have no intention of banning either one?
LOL - you just can't help yourself.
There are republicans who want to ban condoms and birth control and if they can get enough power they will likely do it. That's why it needs to be exposed and nipped rather that ignored and poo-pooed. Your position that there aren't any republicans who have proposed bans or restrictions has been proven wrong. Your implication that this is a non-issue because it isn't imminent is naive, at best.
Can't wait to see your next spin move.
And they are a very small minority within even just the Republican party.
This is such an insanely stupid argument that it defies all reason. Republicans already have power in many states. They've had it for years. They can do whatever the hell they want to do in Louisiana and Oklahoma and numerous other states. They banned almost all abortions immediately after Dobbs. And yet there is not one single piece of pending legislation anywhere in any of those states that would ban condoms or birth control pills.
That's because Republicans have no intention of banning them. Claiming they plan to is nothing but fearmongering.
Lol - I don't know how you do it, but you keep out doing yourself with inanity.
If the faction of the republican party can get power they will likely take birth control away. It's insanely naive for you to claim this could never happen when we've already seen it for abortion, as one example.
Maybe instead of digging your hole deeper and looking Moore foolish you should simply say you wouldn't support or and won't vote for anyone who wild propose such legislation.
Or maybe you can't bring yourself to say that.
It's completely idiotic for you to keep using abortion as an example of "what could happen" as if they are even scantly comparable. Conservatives fought against Roe from the day it was enacted. The National Right to Life Committee has millions of members across the country. They spent 50 years lobbying candidates and battling to overturn Roe. They tried to blockade abortion clinics. Every year hundreds of thousands of them marched in Washington DC or at rallies in their home state to protest abortion. It was one of the most heated issues in every major political campaign.
There is no similar outcry to ban condoms and the pill. Nothing that even moves the needle. When was the last time you saw a group of conservatives marching to ban rubbers? When was the last time you saw a group of conservatives blockading a CVS to protest the sale of Previfem?
It's almost equally idiotic that you think morons like...(refers back to page 3 of thread to refresh memory)...Josh Schriver are somehow going to wrest control away from the party and impose a ban on condoms and the pill against the wishes of the overwhelming majority. And it's extremely disingenuous to try to scare female voters into believing that.
Here's kind of a fun fact - according to a survey conducted by FiveThirtyEight shortly after Dobbs, more Republicans than Democrats support keeping condoms and the pill legal. 93% of Republicans think the pill should remain legal, compared to 91% of Democrats. And 92% of Republicans think condoms should remain legal, compared to 91% of Democrats.
Maybe you should be more concerned about your own house.
And they got it done despite republicans being in favor of abortion rights. Doesn't mean it will take as long for another horrible decision like that to be made, particularly with the makeup of the republican party and their leader.
It's also telling that you can't grasp that limiting access to other birth control, IVF, and other right wing goals will be damaging to our society. You remain more interested in trying to dig out of the hole you created by being wrong. Your insecurity abounds.
This is literally the headline from the article you posted. It's amazing that you post something like this. I would call you a shill if I thought you are smart enough to be a shill.
Majority of Public Disapproves of Supreme Court’s Decision To Overturn Roe v. Wade
62% of Americans say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, little changed since before the court’s decision.
Are you drunk or do you honestly not understand the difference between “percent of Republicans” and “percent of Americans”?
You’re not even shoveling horseshit anymore. You’re just playing in the horseshit.
LOL - do you not understand that "republicans being in support of abortion rights" does not mean "most republicans being in support of abortion rights"? It simply means there is a significant faction of even republican voters who are in favor of abortion rights - enough that a strong majority of all voters are in favor of abortion rights.
A relative small number of those who are anti-abortion were able to gain enough power to overturn Roe. THAT'S the point. A small number of radicals with an unpopular agenda can gain enough power to pass their legislation. That's why we need to ensure we are exposing these issues early and often so the intentions are clear and can be avoided.
But a myopic shill like yourself has no capability of thinking in that manner.
Rs are so screwed with this abortion nonsense. They're getting crushed in the polls for states that have it up for a vote in November.
abcnews.go.com
Abortion-rights ballot measures are leading in the polls
What the polls say about 2024 abortion-rights ballot measures in Florida, Arizona, Nevada and South Dakota.
70% of Republicans supported overturning Roe. That’s why Republicans fought for 50 years to overturn Roe.
93% of Republicans support keeping birth control pills legal. That’s why you see zero effort on the part of even the most Republican-dominated legislatures to ban the pill and you won’t see it any time in the foreseeable future.
All you’re doing at this point in the thread is just amplifying your stupidity. Either start making sense or stop wasting our time.
Yes zero effort
Louisiana House passes bill to make abortion pills a controlled dangerous substance
The measure would make possession of the medications without valid prescriptions or orders from medical professionals punishable by up to five years in prison, with an exception for pregnant people.
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