Cruz storms off after being asked why mass shootings happen ‘only in America’

[BelemNole]

Google “Dunblane, Scotland”.

And what was the govt reaction to that shooting?

 

[sober_teacher]

The ones that make the news, sure.

Well studies have been done repeatedly over the years establishing this, so no it’s not the media creating this. Links have been posted regarding this many times, feel free to search.

So why do they happen?

Why? Mental health issues, domestic abuse, the list of reasons why is sadly as long as there are hours in a day. One of the reasons they happen far more often HERE in the USA is easy access to guns. Whereas abroad, not the least Of the reasons why mass casualty events like this are less common is their access to deadly weapons.

 

[DavidGraeberBullSheetJobs]

Fantastic. Why even post here? Go to to an antifa forum. You’ll fit in well.

You have no limit to how low you go and how willfully dishonest and disgusting you can be.

A disgrace.

 

[McLovin32]

And what was the govt reaction to that shooting?

I'm guessing ol @markfromj won't be googling that.

 

[Funky Bunch]

He was just embarrassed because his dad killed Kennedy

 

[Dr. Spaceman]

Google “Dunblane, Scotland”.

Wasn't that like 30 years ago? How many has Scotland had since compared to the US?

 

[NCHawk5]

You have no limit to how low you go and how willfully dishonest and disgusting you can be.

A disgrace.

Rough day at the coop?

 

[onlyTheObvious]

It’s a winning issue for the Dems.

they need to force some votes on things in the coming months. If I was a Democrat I would go on the offensive.

 

[BioHawk]

A vigil for dead children. Great place to pick a political fight.

It's as good a place as any. Republicans never want to have this debate. Just like they voted down debating new gun legislation today. We're done waiting and I'm betting every one of the families of the children that were killed are not upset because someone brought this up. This needs to happen every single time one of these a-holes sticks his head up in public.

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

To hell with Cruz, I’d like to hear what Ernst and Grassley plan to do about it, not just their hollow thoughts and prayers. We can do better, we absolutely must do better.

 

[Mike Zierath]

Some of you people are heartless……

Cruz…….BAU. Deflect and leave when it doesn’t go his way. The reporter wasn’t wrong to ask those questions, based on facts.

 

[Mike Zierath]

The ones that make the news, sure.

They should all make the news!

 

[cigaretteman]

To hell with Cruz, I’d like to hear what Ernst and Grassley plan to do about it, not just their hollow thoughts and prayers. We can do better, we absolutely must do better.

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[Tom Paris]

Why do shootings happen in America?

Because of people like Ted Cruz.

 

[Tom Paris]

A vigil for dead children. Great place to pick a political fight.

Who picked a political fight? That was a foreign media member asking Cruz legitimate questions. Ted brought politics into it.

 

[Tom Paris]

So 1 example?

He might come up with a couple more. False equivalencies and such.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

Cruz is a bitch.

Yahtzee!

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

Why do shootings happen in America?

Honestly, it’s a really good question. And I don’t believe the answer is as simple as gun control and/or mental health. I genuinely believe a lot of it is cultural.

 

[ThorneStockton]

A vigil for dead children. Great place to pick a political fight.

Also a great place to pretend to care.

 

[WadeLookingbill]

It’s a winning issue for the Dems.

they need to force some votes on things in the coming months. If I was a Democrat I would go on the offensive.

I sure hope saving children's lives is a winning issue for everybody!

 

[Warrior Poet31]

Link to mass shootings in other countries.

Predictably, the mass shooting in Buffalo has precipitated another round of gun control hysteria. What gun control? Who cares? The specifics are unimportant.

You likely have read in the press that the United States has an unparalleled number of mass shootings due to our “lax” gun control laws. Such assertions are rarely challenged, but in fact they are untrue. I haven’t seen more recent numbers, but I am sure little has changed since this 2019 post. On a per capita basis, our mass shooting rate is quite low. Quoting John Lott and Michael Weisser:

Of the 86 countries where we have identified mass public shootings, the US ranks 56th per capita in its rate of attacks and 61st in mass public shooting murder rate. Norway, Finland, Switzerland and Russia all have at least 45 percent higher rates of murder from mass public shootings than the United States.

As I wrote several years ago:

Why does the U.S. have a relatively low incidence of mass shootings compared with most other countries? One possible answer is our widespread gun ownership, combined with liberal concealed carry laws. Would-be mass shooters in the U.S. tend to gravitate toward “gun-free” zones like schools, where they know they will have the only weapon. In most public places in the U.S., unlike most other countries, a would-be shooter faces the material possibility that he will not be the only one with a firearm. If we did away with the folly of the “gun-free zone,” our numbers would probably be even better.

Guns, Guns, Guns

First of all, via InstaPundit, the tweet of the day: As a Jew, I do. David Harsanyi (@davidharsanyi) May 22, 2022 Predictably, the mass shooting in Buffalo has precipitated another round of gun con…

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[Morrison71]

Yeah, thats the way you try to tackle the issue with the mass shootings.

By running away.

Screw discussing policy, amirite?

Also Cruz: But lets stop people from wearing masks, thats an issue that I can fight til I'm blue in the face!!

Its amazes me these ...people ...fought like shit to not wear masks....but dont wanna talk about policy for gun control...

Then again, its actually on brand.....

 

[Mike Zierath]

Predictably, the mass shooting in Buffalo has precipitated another round of gun control hysteria. What gun control? Who cares? The specifics are unimportant.

You likely have read in the press that the United States has an unparalleled number of mass shootings due to our “lax” gun control laws. Such assertions are rarely challenged, but in fact they are untrue. I haven’t seen more recent numbers, but I am sure little has changed since this 2019 post. On a per capita basis, our mass shooting rate is quite low. Quoting John Lott and Michael Weisser:


As I wrote several years ago:

Guns, Guns, Guns

First of all, via InstaPundit, the tweet of the day: As a Jew, I do. David Harsanyi (@davidharsanyi) May 22, 2022 Predictably, the mass shooting in Buffalo has precipitated another round of gun con…

www.powerlineblog.com

Ok, let me say it…….you are wrong!

 

[Warrior Poet31]

Ok, let me say it…….you are wrong!

I just posted a link to some data.

 

[steelrain]

I just posted a link to some data.

You posted a link to a blog.

 

[Warrior Poet31]

You posted a link to a blog.

The blog post linked to data.

 

[TheCainer]

So why do they happen?

Probably because we make it so damn easy to do so.

 

[Mike Zierath]

I just posted a link to some data.

Less per capita is the weakest arguement I’ve seen so far. While it may be accurate, it is flawed.

 

[Rudolph]

A vigil for dead children. Great place to pick a political fight.

I’m sorry, but if paid-by-gun-lobby politicians show up to such an event, they should be prepared to answer direct, scrutinizing questions without dodges, deflections, and other-side blaming.

Give me a fücking break.

Now, if you’re being critical of Cruz, who picked a political fight the moment he chose to suggest democrats haven’t put forward good policy proposals, I apologize. Because it’s Cruz who picked the political fight.

I’ll tell you this — if I am at a vigil such as this for the death of my child — I sure as hell hope NO POLITICIAN that isn’t a parent of some other dead kid decides to show up. Stay the ever-living fùck away.

 

[steelrain]

The blog post linked to data.

Um... no.

The link you posted provids no link to any factual data. It provides a copy of a tweet and a link to an older blog that also provides no empirical data.
There is a link in the older blog that goes to an OP-ED by the NY Post that also provides no data.

Why not just post a link to any actual evidence instead of links to links to links of opinions?

 

[IamHawkeye]

I just posted a link to some data.

Have we ever read any of your poetry?

 

[pepsicock]

Why do shootings happen in America?

Why do people from all over the world fight to come here

 

[globalhawk]

Why do people from all over the world fight to come here

Because immigrants want to come here we shouldn't focus on protecting schools?

 

[HROT]

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State leaders issue statements on Uvalde, Texas school shooting

Flags in Iowa are at half-staff through Saturday. Gov. Kim Reynolds said in a statement, "No parent or child should ever have to face this unimaginable tragedy."

www.weareiowa.com

Mental health care, not gun regulation, is key to ending mass shootings, Joni Ernst says

The Iowa Republican called mass shootings a "societal problem," downplayed new gun laws and said governments must improve mental health services.

www.desmoinesregister.com

Ernst has taken over $3 million

 

[TC Nole OX]

“I hope you make a lot of money at that NRA conference”

 

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As Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) attended a vigil Wednesday for the victims of the massacre in Uvalde, Tex., he stormed away from an interview after he was asked by a British journalist why mass shootings happen “only in America.”

Cruz joined Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) and other local and state leaders at a vigil for the 19 children and two adults killed in the Tuesday mass shooting at Robb Elementary School. Cruz, who is among the Republicans vehemently opposed to proposals from Democrats on expanding background checks on gun sales, has called for increased safety in schools and has condemned “political posturing” in the aftermath of the attack. He is also the lawmaker whose campaigns or political action committees have accepted the most money from the gun rights lobby, according to the nonprofit OpenSecrets.
During an interview with British Sky News reporter Mark Stone, Cruz, who was seen hugging and meeting with those at the vigil, was asked whether this was the moment to reform gun laws. Cruz responded by saying, “You know, it’s easy to go to politics.”







“But it’s important, it’s at the heart of the issue,” Stone replied, according to a video of the interview viewed more than 1 million times as of Thursday morning.
From there, the two had a tense back-and-forth about gun reform laws.
“I get that that’s where the media likes to go,” Cruz said.
The Sky News reporter replied that that was not the case, saying many of the people he spoke with at the vigil also had gun control on their minds.
“The proposals from the Democrats and the media inevitably, when some violent psychopath murders people …” Cruz said, before he was cut off by Stone. The journalist said that the alleged shooter was “a violent psychopath who’s able to get a weapon so easily — an 18-year-old with two AR-15s.”

The senator ignored him and continued: “If you want to stop violent crime, the proposals the Democrats have — none of them would have stopped this.”










Then Stone asked, “Why does this only happen in your country? Why only in America? Why is this American exceptionalism so awful?”
That’s when Cruz fired back: “You know, I’m sorry you think American exceptionalism is awful. You’ve got your political agenda. God love you.”
As he attempted to walk away, Stone said he just wanted “to understand why you do not think that guns are the problem.”
“It’s just an American problem,” the journalist said to Cruz.
At the end of the exchange, Cruz again ignored the journalist’s question and accused Stone of pushing propaganda before walking away.

“Why is it that people come from all over the world to America? Because it’s the freest, most prosperous, safest country on Earth,” the senator said. “Stop being a propagandist.”

A Cruz spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment early Thursday.






The fiery exchange comes shortly before Cruz is scheduled to speak at the National Rifle Association’s annual meeting over Memorial Day weekend in Houston, a few hundred miles away from Uvalde. The event is the largest gun-lobby gathering this year and comes after cancellations because of the coronavirus pandemic. It will also feature talks from a group that includes Abbott and former president Donald Trump.

Gun-rights groups have given Cruz’s campaigns or PACs more than $442,000 during his career, the most of any lawmaker between 1989 and 2020, according to Federal Election Commission data from 2021 cited by OpenSecrets. Cruz and Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.) are two of the top three lawmakers to receive financial contributions from gun-rights supporters, according to Axios.
Cruz has faced criticism from Democrats and liberals in recent days after he tweeted his thoughts and prayers to the victims, saying he and his wife, Heidi, were “fervently lifting up in prayer the children and families in the horrific shooting in Uvalde.” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) questioned why Cruz was still scheduled to speak at the NRA convention, while Rep. Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.) tweeted a four-letter expletive to the Republican senator.






On Wednesday, Cruz was among the Republicans at Abbott’s news conference in Uvalde when Democratic Texas gubernatorial nominee Beto O’Rourke interrupted the governor to tell him he was “doing nothing” to stop the next mass shooting. Cruz, who was standing behind Abbott, told O’Rourke to “sit down” as the Democrat was escorted out of the auditorium.
Beto O’Rourke confronts Abbott in Uvalde: ‘You are doing nothing’
“This is on you. Until you choose to do something, this will continue to happen,” O’Rourke said to Abbott, who mostly avoided eye contact with the Democrat and did not respond. “Somebody needs to stand up for the children of this state, or they will continue to be killed.”

Cruz also got the attention of one of his favorite sparring partners, late-night host Jimmy Kimmel. On ABC, Kimmel offered an emotional appeal to Cruz and Republicans to pass laws that could help prevent future mass shootings. While background check bills like H.R. 8 have passed in the House, Senate Democrats and experts are pessimistic that a deal could be done to pass it into law.
H.R. 8 gun background check bill probably won’t pass, even after Uvalde
“I don’t believe Ted Cruz doesn’t care about children. I don’t. I refuse to believe he is unaffected by this. He’s a father. I bet he went to bed sick to his stomach last night. It’s easy to call someone a monster. But he’s not a monster — he is a human being. And some people might not like hearing me say that, but it’s true,” Kimmel said. “So here’s the thing I would like to say to Ted Cruz, the human being, and Governor Abbott, and everyone: It’s okay to admit you made a mistake. In fact, it’s not just okay, it’s necessary to admit you made a mistake when your mistake is killing the children in your state.”


He added, “It takes a big person to do something like that. It takes a brave person to do something like that. And do I think these men are brave people? No, I don’t. I don’t. But man, I would love it if they surprised me.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/26/ted-cruz-uvalde-shooting-america-guns/

Did this British journalist invest in a Map? Here's the thing Neville, there's a place just to the west of Texas, in the U.S.A. we call it Mexico.

Just drive west until you see human heads hanging from the overpasses, now you're in Mexico. Order a taco, they're good.

 

[Moral]

Cruz Missiles for exit after being asked why mass shootings happen ‘only in America’​

The title we deserved.

 

[FlickShagwell]

Why do people from all over the world fight to come here

Are you going to credit the slimeball who originally said this?

(It’s Ted Cruz, by the way.)

 

[Tom Paris]

Why do people from all over the world fight to come here

Lol. You just used TED CRUZ’ talking point!! Unreal you people.

 

[McLovin32]

I'm guessing ol @markfromj won't be googling that.

Hey everyone, @markfromj is avoiding the thread. Because he knows he made himself look like an idiot.