The casual ISU fans do not hate Iowa and I would say 75% of the die hard fans don't hate Iowa, but there is about 25% of their die hards that definitely do.
Suddenly the rebuilt B12 is going to be "salty" and possibly the "2nd or 3rd best major conference" due to adding Cincy, Memphis, UCF, and others to replace Oklahoma and Texas <eyeroll>
I don't know what's in the B12 bylaws, but I would assume adding any new member would require a certain # of votes from the B12 schools. If that number is greater than 8, basically UT and OU could refuse to vote yes unless their exit fees to leave immediately were waived. It's a bit of a catch 22 situation there.
I don't see the hatred. I do see a bit of payback for months and years of utter crap flung by some Clone trolls on this board, and the obvious hatred from some fans that comes out, let's say, when they assault the Hawkeye Marching Band.
What about the other side of this. Would anyone already in a league really want to jump on the sinking ship known as the Big 12? Some of the schools they are talking about the Big 12 said no to not that long ago.
The irony of this is that, early on in Pollard's tenure, he basically said the same thing...that ISU needed to take Iowa down as it was the only way they could truly thrive and it was his mission to ensure that ISU became the big dog in the state and that Iowa dropped into obscurity.
I believe I saw where UCF was very interested. If they can get a better money deal and better exposure I am sure they would.
It’s also funny how they don’t include major bowl appearances……of which Iowa has 6 since 1958 and ISU 1.
Or if you are wearing an Iowa band uniform. I hope they walk out of JTS with no broken bones this year.
I didn't see any of that and as stated have been there many times and wandered tailgates around JT. I guarantee you we have jackasses at times around Kinnick. Some people are just plain stupid and it gets worse with the more they drink. I actually apologized to some Indiana fans in recent years at a game because there was a person just screaming at them. I just said sorry have to listen to that garbage and that most of us are not like that.
Yep, no 3 loss team gets a BCS bowl in a normal season, and certainly not against a 4-2 opponent that only made their conference championship because the better team quit because of covid.
Agreed.
I'm sure we have a Husker fan lurking around here that will be along to give you the laundry list. I've heard it all before but just kid of nod and tune it out but the list is extensive.
I’m not a Texas fans by any means but will be cheering for them and OU this year. Be hilarious to see those 2 play in the Big 12 title game and give the conference one last middle finger before leaving for the SEC. because no matter how much clones want to talk about 25’ season with the contract they won’t be playing football in the Big 12 come 22’ season.
It's even more funny seeing Clone fans saying expansion talk is just the Big 12 putting on a show to force OK/TX to settle up early before they all take off to better conferences. It's all a big scheme by the Big 12 schools, ACC, Pac 12, and Big 10 to force the big payout and then ISU can join the Big 10. Some creative conspiracy theorist in the clone fan base I guess.
I haven't made that claim, but it's really a technicality that finishing alone in first after playing a round robin conference schedule isn't consider a regular season championship. It's not recognized as such, but the accomplishment would be no different if it was. Although there is nothing physical to show for it, It certainly is a heck of a lot better than getting a trophy for winning a division.
There is no reason to add teams before the Texas and Oklahoma membership has officially ended. I doubt it takes more than 8 votes anyway. I believe it took 9 in the 12 team Big 12. I would guess it would take 7 or 8 at most in the current 10 team Big 12.
Yet in 04’ when isu tied Colorado for top spot in the Division but lost out on the tie breaker with both going a whopping 4-4 they still made rings for their players as “division champs”. I know this because guy from my HS was on that team.
Fictitious title is better than a divisional title because clown fans say so.
Fictitious title is better than a divisional title because clown fans say so.
I see a lot of "self policing" around Kinnick. Most fans not only won't tolerate over-the-top crap they'll tell the Iowa fan to cut it out.
Not only that, the Big 12 gave ISU a 2004 division championship trophy. That's my point. Winning the Big 12 regular season was a much bigger accomplishment. It was not called a championship and there was no trophy or rings. It's the only sport that has a full regular season and a post season tournament that doesn't recognize the regular season winner as a champion.
"It may not be recognized by the Big 12 as a regular season championship, but that's exactly what it was in 2020 sans the trophy."
Except your conference made up the rules and conditions before the season started that stated the top 2 finishing teams at the end of the regular season would play for the conference title. There were no rules differentiating between regular season or post season champions. You knew before the season started that in order to be named conference champions you had to win that last game.
There it is again clown fans demand we pick and choose what time frame does and doesn’t count.
Nope clown fans pick and choose what does and doesn’t count. When that doesn’t work they simply make up their own delusional reality and then get down right pissy when anyone questions it.
It's funny to me, regardless of who brings it up. I feel like I'm one of the oldest guys on this site, and even I wasn't born yet.
Hey now clown fans don’t want such a pesky fact like that to squash another one of their delusions.
He seriously said that? I guess I'd believe it, based on the other interviews and public statements I've read.
