Football at Iowa as we once knew and enjoyed it is over until ferentz is gone.
Deacon Hill QB1 for spring ball
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He also said he didn't think he play ever again when he hit the portal. He knew he wasn't up to the challenge but of course we picked him up
A mystical god is not the reason for the poor state of our QB room. Blame the HC and OC/QB from the past several years.
There is absolutely no way that TL, with his history as a very good FBS QB and solid coach, could possibly come out of spring practice thinking that DH belongs anywhere near Iowa’s offense. If he does, that confirms the suspicions many have that he was given the job because he was willing to be KF’s yes-man. As someone who is desperate for some good news regarding Iowa’s offense, I am willing to wait until the end of spring practice before losing it.
It really bothers me how much I despise Kirk. I used to defend him and now I want him gone ASAP. He’s insane.106th (dead last) - Passing Efficiency
149th - Passing TDs
125th - Passing Yards
108th - Passing Yards per Game
106th (dead last) - Passing Yards per Completion
DH threw 5 TDs vs. 8 INTs and 6 fumbles lost last season. This is the guy who apparently has to be beaten out for the #1 QB spot at Iowa. Go get 'em Kirk!
The only real explanation is that Lester was told he’d be paid very well but have absolutely no say in what happens.
I have yet to hear/read a credible defense of Kirk’s decision to stick with Deacon Hill.
Keep in mind if Kirk had had his way, like he was used to when Barta was supposedly in charge, the only change that would have occurred this offseason was the Budster replacing Copeland. Think about that. Brian would still be calling plays with Deacon Hill leading the charge.
This is what you get when you have a dinosaur for a head coach who feels no pressure whatsoever and doesn’t care how bad things get on offense so long as things are done his way with his yes-man buddies on staff.
This whole thing is a joke. And if Deacon Hill plays next year and the offense is trash with no attempt made to change quarterbacks at any point then Kirk should be fired. Originally, I wanted Kirk to be able to go out on his own terms, but his egotistical, stubborn refusal to adapt, evolve, and shun nepotism to better the program has drained me entirely of my goodwill and grace.
If 2024 is more of the same, I want Kirk’s legacy to be getting fired and the national punchline that was his son’s offense.
Why do you think the worst QB in college football needs to be "beaten out" for his position? Deacon already stated he is taking pretty much all of the reps. How in God's name is that a "competition"?
Hill should be last on the depth chart, and let the other QBs battle it out. Give THEM a chance. We already know what Deacon can (can't) do.
This , we loved it more in those two positions than the turnover machine that is Freakn FA Deacon did
To your point, when does the staff look to the portal and get someone that can actually function as a QB?
We already know that if Hill is QB1, CMcN is hopelessly injured and the rest of the lot is garbage.
The staff should already have hit the portal.
Agree 100% but that would mean Kirk having to admit he's been wrong. He won't do that. Remember the PSU beatdown at Kinnick all those years ago? JVB at QB and having a rough year, people wanting to see what Rudock could do, we're down I think 38-0 in the third or fourth quarter, and guess who doesn't take a snap that entire game? Rudock. We're down 5 TDs late in the game, and he leaves his starting QB in the entire way. He seriously didn't want Rudock to come in and be effective because it would've meant he was wrong.
And JVB was literally the only QB in the land that literally took every single snap that season.
Kirk is mentally challenged when it comes to offense. This is not a new development.
IDGAF if Hill “wins” Iowa 8 games this year. Iowa won 10 games against mediocre competition in spite of him, and most of those were games Iowa easily could have lost.
If Iowa is one of the five worst offenses in CFB again this year, Kirk needs to go. Iowa’s not going to look so hot on defense for much longer with 4 West Coast teams coming aboard.
Absolutely all time horrendous performance. And it still took Ken Kuester and Tim O'Dey do what Hill was trying to do. Prevent iowa from winning.
FIFY.
I can’t help but laugh at all of this. Marco should be QB1 for all of spring ball to get him the reps for fall ball and keep him here and invested in the program. He will more than likely go into the portal after spring ball is over.
DHill shouldn’t even be the waterboy if he can’t get himself into shape by losing 15 to 20 pounds to try and become more mobile since he has no pocket presence and awareness. But honestly, we know what his abilities are and they are not good putting it mildly.
Looks like I’ll be doing a lot of other things this fall instead of watching Iowa Football if Hill is QB1.
I don't buy into stupid fan narratives.
I assume you're referring to Christiansen/Stanzi, Ruddock/Beathard. We don't know what was happening every day at practice. The coaches do. Although talent assessment is part of it, the primary job of the coaches is to asses what QB gives the team its best chance to win at that point.
Many of the all-time greats in all sports didn't play as underclassmen. For some athletes, it takes a little time to develop. They aren't simply ready right away. It's also not at all uncommon in sports that the upperclassman gets the playing time in cases where he is pretty much even with the underclassman. This is especially true for a position like QB, as the rythm of the whole offense flows through this player. And often, the daily leadership of the group is coming from the QB as well.
Also very common for the QB position to be decided earlier in preseason camps than other positions for the sake of the rythm and continuity of the unit. Similarly, for the continuity of the unit, coaches will give the benefit of the doubt to the starter at QB perhaps a tick longer than making a change at another position. It isn't a position that coaches want to waffle back and forth on.
Kirk isn't a guy that likes to waffle back and forth on anything. And his steadfastness is the reason Iowa has had such a consistency of success over the last 25 years.
Many would say that KF got Stanzi and Beathard right in the end. And it proved that KF is able to make hard decisions to do what's best for the team. Others, that already don't care for KF in one way or another, leap to a narrative that he was playing the wrong guy all along. Again, we don't know the rate of development that was happening in practice every day.
It's funny because you say KF made those changes based on techtonic shift in fan support. Others say that Deacon is getting snaps ahead of Marco for the purpose of telling fans to shove it. I can promise you neither are close to true.
And I can also promise you the spot is being competed for
You're not wrong.
But in all of his infinite wisdom KF decides to try and work around that by choosing, as the first option, to play the biggest and slowest and worst ball security guy in all of D1 football behind them.
Its undeniably laughable because you just literally can't make this stuff up.
KF either knows less than nothing about QBs or he's willfully putting the offense in the worst possible starting-during-ending position as he can muster for whatever reasons.
The second tweet regarding DH taking most, if not all the snaps with the ones was posted as I was composing my post that stated I assume both QB's are getting snaps with the ones.
Nonetheless, this does not mean the spot isn't an open competition. Lester already said the first thing he intends to do is make his own evaluations and get to know the players. But you still have to run a first unit onto the field come spring practice.
Maybe the plan is to give DH snaps with the ones for the first couple weeks and then give the reps to ML. We have no way of knowing.
Maybe ML is picking up the concepts and language of the new offense slower than DH. Again, we don't know.
Most likely Marco just hasn't beaten Deacon out yet. We can all see that Marco has more upside than Deacon. But that doesn't mean that he yet gives the team the best chance to win. The bowl game showed us Marco's upside. It also showed us that the game was moving far too fast for Marco to process and that he is still quite raw as a passer. I simply don't believe that Iowa would have won as many games last season had Marco been playing Deacon's role. At the same time, Marco was a true freshman, and I fully expect him to pass Deacon in his development and be the #2 (behind Cade) next season.
One thing I do know is that the spot is being competed for. Spots on the team are up for grabs right now and in preseason camp even moreso than they will be during the season. This this the time of year that everyone is getting an even playing field and spots are being competed for on a daily basis. Nobody is being given any spots. The coaches can't just enter spring practice with Marco listed ahead of Deacon and expect the rest of the team to believe that open competition at their positions is a reality. That would hurt the program. The program is built on daily competition. And the one group of people you can't fool are the players. They know who deserves to be out there.
Marco has to actually win the spot from Deacon and become the player who gives Iowa the better chance to win if called upon. I'm not sure why this is a foreign concept to some people. Again, I fully expect this to happen. Even taking reps with the twos is giving him this opportunity. He's getting plenty of reps, as this time of year is geared towards development. It's not like in-season, when the majority of reps in practice have to go to the ones.
It should have been completely expected that DH was listed ahead of ML coming into spring camp. It is completely expected that QB2 (behind Cade) will remain an open competition. And I think it's completely expected by all of us non-conspiracy theorists that ML will end up winning the spot. It just has to have the chance to play out that way
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McNamara and Lainez, but sure, we can throw Resar in there too. That makes 3.
You forgot the Heisman runner-up who sat behind McCann.
But oh, right, none of those guys were ready to be the starter until the precise moment KF decided to make the switch. So his QB decision making in those cases was actually perfect.
Lol.
The new OC got the short end of the stick when he inherited this room of QBs. There has been NO development of QBs since the time Brian was OC. Now Lester had to deal with this buffoon.
I'll give Lester slack since he comes into this with his hands tied.
My Fall golf game will be active again. The year Iowa went undefeated I never watched a game. I think I'm on to something.
Do you believe that Kirk has good judgment about offense and Qb’s right now in today’s football? Just gauging your intelligence as a football fan.
If he can't beat out deacon, then i'd hope so. that would be a total waste of a scholarship for the next 3 years or whatever. But i have little faith that kirk will get a decent QB....maybe Lester can fix that. He should be allowed to get "his guy"
Say a miracle happens.
Offense becomes pretty good
DH makes a quantum leap and becomes average to decent.
Does KF go with
A. The change at OC and improvements in coaching made a difference
Or
B. We see what this offense can do when we don’t have as many injuries as we have dealt with in the past
Offense becomes pretty good
DH makes a quantum leap and becomes average to decent.
Does KF go with
A. The change at OC and improvements in coaching made a difference
Or
B. We see what this offense can do when we don’t have as many injuries as we have dealt with in the past
All Kirk goes by is wins. Hill led the team to 10 (with small assist early in year to Cade)
That’s it. That’s all he cares about and he tells us every week.
Yet even this is a lie from past performance. JVB taking every snap in a 4 win season…..Kirk’s excuse then, he needed reps in Greg’s offense despite it being his last ****ing year haha. No vision of the future there. But hey 4 wins apparently was the best we could do that year
Now to the other illogical views of Kirk that if anyone else lived by them would not act the way he does
Kirk wants to limit turnovers. Preaches it all the time.
So he starts a kid who turned the ball over consistently. And those turnovers were responsible for losses.
Kirk has admitted that the OL isn’t as strong as it’s been in the past or that mor growth is necessary….a very honest take.
So he starts Hill who’s immobile. Any other coach would say, Marco load up on the ibprofen cause you’re going to be running a lot!
Marco extended drives with his legs. He was running for his life but think of the other losses we had during the year where a few extra first downs could have been the difference….hell maybe even lead to some points. We only needed 3 to beat MN. Marco could have ran for the 25 yards haha
I refuse to believe that any QB could be less accurate than Hill.
Anyway, long winded point being Kirk states that his QB shouldn’t turn the ball over, and his does all the time. He admits the OL isn’t where it needs to be, so he uses the slowest moving QB which leads to more turnovers….
No other coach at any god damn level would make the decisions Kirk is making. None. Other coaches would switch to a wishbone offense than let someone of Hill’s skill set be a traditional QB
As others have said, if Hill takes any snaps this next season i am out. We have endured the crap show and stubbornness for too long. There’s a breaking point. Hiring a new OC has my interest hanging by a thread.
That’s it. That’s all he cares about and he tells us every week.
Yet even this is a lie from past performance. JVB taking every snap in a 4 win season…..Kirk’s excuse then, he needed reps in Greg’s offense despite it being his last ****ing year haha. No vision of the future there. But hey 4 wins apparently was the best we could do that year
Now to the other illogical views of Kirk that if anyone else lived by them would not act the way he does
Kirk wants to limit turnovers. Preaches it all the time.
So he starts a kid who turned the ball over consistently. And those turnovers were responsible for losses.
Kirk has admitted that the OL isn’t as strong as it’s been in the past or that mor growth is necessary….a very honest take.
So he starts Hill who’s immobile. Any other coach would say, Marco load up on the ibprofen cause you’re going to be running a lot!
Marco extended drives with his legs. He was running for his life but think of the other losses we had during the year where a few extra first downs could have been the difference….hell maybe even lead to some points. We only needed 3 to beat MN. Marco could have ran for the 25 yards haha
I refuse to believe that any QB could be less accurate than Hill.
Anyway, long winded point being Kirk states that his QB shouldn’t turn the ball over, and his does all the time. He admits the OL isn’t where it needs to be, so he uses the slowest moving QB which leads to more turnovers….
No other coach at any god damn level would make the decisions Kirk is making. None. Other coaches would switch to a wishbone offense than let someone of Hill’s skill set be a traditional QB
As others have said, if Hill takes any snaps this next season i am out. We have endured the crap show and stubbornness for too long. There’s a breaking point. Hiring a new OC has my interest hanging by a thread.
It appears Hill is exempt form everything. Don't show up for conditioning,weightlifting,eat at Dunkin donuts,just make sure he brings enough for the staff.
I fear that he doesn't want to see any improvement in the offense for this reason. See ,Lester is even worse than Brian. Should have kept Brian bitches.
Doing well in practice is important. It provides a baseline for predicting what you can see in a game. However, it isn't infallible. To date, regardless of how well he's practiced, Hill has not delivered in games. It would be one thing if his impact was neutral, but so far, he's been a net negative with his interceptions, fumbles, immobility/inability to recognize pressure and inaccuracy. There will need to be a sea change in his performance for him to get playing time this fall. I just hate to see them waste what I expect to be another great defensive unit. Hopeful, but skeptical.
Hope this might happen, but not sure how you can correct throwing into coverage. Maybe correct dropping/fumbling the ball.
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