Deportation flights costing ~10k per person
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According to the DOD comptroller, as of fall 2022, the average hourly cost of operating a C-17 was about $21,000 and the average hourly cost of operating a C-130E was between $68,000 and $71,000. Based on these figures, it can be estimated that the C-17 flight on Thursday that carried 80 migrants from El Paso, Texas, to Guatemala City would have cost roughly $252,000. For the same 12-hour flight using the C-130E, it would cost between $816,000 and $852,000.
* if they would have flown a different plane, it could have cost that much. Also, you are assuming the United States Military is going to send a bill to the United states government.
Again, you guys are running on half truths.
* if they would have flown a different plane, it could have cost that much. Also, you are assuming the United States Military is going to send a bill to the United states government.
Again, you guys are running on half truths.
So you agree that the flight cost $10k per immigrant. Thanks,
The military doesn't fly for free, someone pays for that. That someone is us.
But let's say that they fly them back exclusively on C-17s as unlikely as that is. That costs 3150 per immigrant. Multiply that by 2 million for us.
No. They flew a c17, the article adds in a nice what if to let you lefties piss yourself over something. Read it again.
Youre of the belief they are all getting flown back to Guatemala city?
You need to relax dude. They could send 2 billion over to Ukraine to light in fire and you wouldn't blink, this is happening in the US.
It's 10 times the rate normally charged to tax payers fyi so they can put on a show exploiting people for their idiot base.
The military flies regardless, the cost doesn't disappear just because they don't move an immigrant.
This is just ancillary benefit.
Way less than keeping them here.
"The DOD reported on Wednesday that they would be providing two C-17s and two C-130E planes to help with what are known as "migrant repatriation flights.""
So the avg cost will be about $6500 per immigrant.
Hilarious watching the dems talk about cost.
One of the msm networks did a ride along with ICE and highlighted the fact that it took 10 agents to work on one ICE fugtive. Of course they failed to highlight the fact that if leftwing jurisdictions would honor ICE detainers on criminals that are already in local custody, they wouldn't need 10 agents for every one arrest. That and it would be safer for everyone.
One of the msm networks did a ride along with ICE and highlighted the fact that it took 10 agents to work on one ICE fugtive. Of course they failed to highlight the fact that if leftwing jurisdictions would honor ICE detainers on criminals that are already in local custody, they wouldn't need 10 agents for every one arrest. That and it would be safer for everyone.
Doesn’t matter they’ll make their way past the border again. Deporting , deporting, isn’t going to solve this until the job issue is addressed. Don’t care how secure some claim the border will be under Trump. They’ll still find a way past it.
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Look at you coming down off that 10k number.
"Partial truths"
Don't worry, they will figure out pricing.
Don’t give a crap about costs. Solve what’s drawing them here first. This is basically a PR campaign. Similar to the war on drugs.
You don’t seem to grasp that these planes fly around empty as necessary for training.
We already incur millions upon millions in expenses from the DoD. It’s a reason they’re the world’s largest consumer of oil.
You’re making the assumption, without evidence, that these planes wouldn’t be flying if we were not repatriating illegal immigrants, and thus the entire incurred expense is due to that.
So you're implying that it costs money to clean up Biden's mess.
And it’s worth every penny to kick out immigration criminals.
It costs an average of $150 to house a prisoner. Within 66 days, the $10,000 would pay for itself.
Also note* that plane had 84 people on it. A quick check says they can fit 124.
This math is quickly become some "if we account for everything negative, we can piss ourselves" type stuff.
This math is quickly become some "if we account for everything negative, we can piss ourselves" type stuff.
Good luck. You’re trying to educate people on the concept of “combat readiness” who don’t even have a grasp on the concept of “ life readiness”.
Can we get these guys on some AA flights for the points at least?
Military was getting paid before Trump. The Air Force is constant flying, even if just training.
Border never should have been so open. Ignoring laws always costs more later.
The solution should have been for military to lock border down super tight and deport any illegal doing crimes. Biden F’d that up and the gate swung hard to where we are today.
Fortunately, Colombia is transporting their own criminals home. They showed us
Thank you, Trump!
Less than the 180 Billion it costs the US each year to have them here.
It would have been less expensive if Biden had protected the border.
This guy seems to provide more information but in context it actually makes some sense. I trust him as a source because he's called out Trump mis-information quite a bit.
Basically it boils down to this.
Charter planes are less expensive but if you have to wait for them they are more expensive because we have to pay to keep a detainee in detention.
Military planes have to fly anyway so that the pilots can get flight hours. They can either do this by doing training flights or they can do actual missions.
Hey MAGAs. More folks were sent home under Biden than under Trump.
That being said....sorry you don't like non-whites
That being said....sorry you don't like non-whites
Much cheaper than a year in the Cali prison system.
How fun would it be seeing Huey sitting next to a ms-13 member flying United. 😆 🤣 😂 😹
This is correct. doug thinks it's funny so I guess he only pretends to care about wasteful spending. Trump is making a show out of this and it's wasting tax dollars. AGAIN, I KNOW REPUBLICANS ONLY PRETEND TO CARE ABOUT SPENDING. I've watched them lie about it since Reagan.
Case in point...doesn't care about spending costs. This math isn't difficult. This is ripping off the American taxpayer...just like SS staying at Trump resorts is about to do.
Wrong again.
"Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state and local taxes in 2022."
Institution on Taxation and Economic Policy
Right again though....
They cost us $151B in 2023 and probably something similar in 2022. https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/immigration/illegal-immigration-cost-us-taxpayers-150-7b-doge/
So they cost a lot more, likely $50B more each and every year.
And the cost to get rid of them would be around $20B and then it's gravy after that Get em out!
If they are paying so much in taxes, why are they living on the U.S. government's dime in hotel rooms in various cities throughout the country?
Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants
Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase.
itep.org
This is from a government report 1 year ago:Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants
Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase.
https://www.congress.gov/118/meetin...s/HHRG-118-BU00-Wstate-KirchnerJ-20240508.pdf
This chaos is also imposing record costs on Americans. Last year, FAIR published a report entitled theFiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers. The study strives to illustrate themyriad of ways Americans pay for illegal immigration. Our estimate, which is a conservative one, is thatAmericans now pay $150.7 billion dollars annually due to illegal immigration. This figure represents anet cost. In terms of gross expenditures due to illegal immigration, we estimate that Americans pay$182 billion. Approximately $31 billion is received from illegal aliens in taxes, only 17 percent of thecosts they create.
Mexico sets up border camp for deportees
Mexican authorities have begun constructing giant tent shelters in the city of Ciudad Juarez to prepare for a possible influx of Mexicans deported under U.S. President Donald Trump's promised mass deportations.
The temporary shelters in Ciudad Juarez will have the capacity to house thousands of people and should be ready in a matter of days, said municipal official Enrique Licon.
The tents in Ciudad Juarez are part of the Mexican government's plan to ready shelters and reception centers in nine cities across northern Mexico.
Authorities at the site will provide deported Mexicans with food, temporary housing, medical care, and assistance in obtaining identity documents, according to a government document outlining the strategy, called "Mexico embraces you."
The government is also planning to have a fleet of buses ready to transport Mexicans from the reception centers back to their hometowns.
Trump has vowed to carry out the largest deportation effort in U.S. history, which would remove millions of immigrants. An operation of that scale, however, would likely take years and be hugely costly.
Nearly 5 million Mexicans are living in the United States without authorization, according to an analysis by Mexican think tank El Colegio de la Frontera Norte (COLEF) based on recent U.S. census data.
Many are from parts of central and southern Mexico wracked by violence and poverty. Some 800,000 undocumented Mexicans in the United States are from Michoacan, Guerrero, and Chiapas, according to the COLEF study, where fierce battles between organized crime groups have forced thousands to flee in recent years, sometimes leaving whole towns abandoned.
Trump has vowed to carry out the largest deportation effort in U.S. history, which would remove millions of immigrants. An operation of that scale, however, would likely take years and be hugely costly.
Nearly 5 million Mexicans are living in the United States without authorization, according to an analysis by Mexican think tank El Colegio de la Frontera Norte (COLEF) based on recent U.S. census data.
Many are from parts of central and southern Mexico wracked by violence and poverty. Some 800,000 undocumented Mexicans in the United States are from Michoacan, Guerrero, and Chiapas, according to the COLEF study, where fierce battles between organized crime groups have forced thousands to flee in recent years, sometimes leaving whole towns abandoned.
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