I told you what I wanted you to do - to take it seriously. You don't need to vote for Trump but it is very easy to see what he wants to do. He will have the tools in place to hold power if he gets back in there. 2020 was just a trial run. Next to no Republicans, IN POWER, will vote against his desire to hold power. He wants authoritarianism and he found the loopholes that can help him get it.
They don't get to vote to keep him in power. That would take an amendment. An amendment to overturn the 22nd amendment. And that takes 39 states to go along with that. Him saying dumb shit he wants to happen is miles away from him every getting to that place. It takes way more than 49% of the Senate and 50% of the house to get that done. If we every get to a point where the important pieces start to move in that direction, I'll say "Hold on here a second". Let me know when that happens. Until then it's just every day political fearmongering and I'll just continue to ignore it.
Then it's too late. They voted not to certify the election. He has the Supreme Court. He will have lackeys in positions to help him keep power. Again, if he wins in 24, and loses in 28, with a Democrat going back into the WH, then I will admit you have been right all along.
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Dude. What are you talking about? If he wins in 24, he's not allowed to run in 28....or ever again. ZERO states will allow him on their ballot. ZERO. The fact you can be so worried about something that literally has NO CHANCE of happening is insane. Especially since you keep trying to convince me and others that this is some sort of locked in reality.Then it's too late. They voted not to certify the election. He has the Supreme Court. He will have lackeys in positions to help him keep power. Again, if he wins in 24, and loses in 28, with a Democrat going back into the WH, then I will admit you have been right all along.
The thing is, there are a lot of very smart legal minds/Constitutional and American historians, like Mark Elias who are explaining why this is a thing and shouldn't be dismissed. They aren't crazy and shouldn't just be ignored.
If I am wrong, no big deal. If you're wrong, we have a massive problem. Again, I hope you're correct.
Liz Cheney warns Trump will never leave office if he's elected president again
Cheney said she would “do whatever it takes to make sure that Donald Trump is defeated in 2024," including potentially voting for Biden.
The other thing, and I think Liz is implying this here is that he will just ignore the Constitution. He couldn't care less about it. Republicans will not cross him if holding power is his endgame.
Head in sand. You're NOT listening to people who are a helluva lot smarter than the two of us. I am.
Well, if they those smart people are saying that Trump can win this election AND run again in 28, they're complete fvcking morons and I would suggest you never listen to a thing they say. And no, they're not remotely smarter than me if that's the case. Also, I'm sure those smart people have ZERO agenda or bias.
You are absolutely correct. Just think if he's elected: a convicted felon with access to classified documents and top secret CIA info not to mention the nuke codes! Trump would be classified as a national security risk and should not be allowed anywhere near the White House. Unfortunately, his GOP supporters don't give a damn.
Agree 100%.
One of the most entertaining parts of this board is watching you try to make a point. It's like a toddler learning to ride a bike without training wheels. You'll get there someday!
This is, IMO, a very valid concern. While my perception of the Biden Administration is far less critical than many, I fully acknowledge that there is an enthusiasm problem. Could be a strange election where down ballot races help buoy his re-election chances.
Probably . . . but I'm told (by many) that she feels as though she's "above" being a mere US Senator and deserves a more lofty position. I'm also told that she really wants to put Ashley Hinson in the Senate to replace Grassley.
I'm starting to realize more and more each day that you have no idea how our government works or what our Constitution says about anything.
I also am realizing, TODAY, that you don't realize Trump cares NOTHING about any of this. You are acting like these are normal times and Trump is a normal person. There's now basically an entire party who cares nothing about the Constitution and will circumvent or ignore it. In NORMAL TIMES you are 100% right. Trump and his goals are ABNORMAL and there is a House and a SCOTUS that will back him up...not to mention his AG and DOJ, after he gains power.
I don't remember that at all. I remember the right continuing to yell and scream that it was a states rights issue and it needed to be returned back to the states. For my entire life. Including an annual march in DC for it with hundreds of thousands of people participating in it.
Exactly...they will no stop until they reach their end goal. Same with MAGA...they aren't EVER going to go away quietly.
That's because you do not pay attention.
You don't remember current Supreme Court justices saying it was settled law prior to their confirmation?
As much as i agree that a second trump term would essentially be a grotesque hybrid of the usual second term president corruption on steroids, and a vengeance tour, the idea that he'd stick around for a third (without an amendment) is just plain silly on so many fronts.Then it's too late. They voted not to certify the election. He has the Supreme Court. He will have lackeys in positions to help him keep power. Again, if he wins in 24, and loses in 28, with a Democrat going back into the WH, then I will admit you have been right all along.
The thing is, there are a lot of very smart legal minds/Constitutional and American historians, like Mark Elias who are explaining why this is a thing and shouldn't be dismissed. They aren't crazy and shouldn't just be ignored.
If I am wrong, no big deal. If you're wrong, we have a massive problem. Again, I hope you're correct.
Liz Cheney warns Trump will never leave office if he's elected president again
Cheney said she would “do whatever it takes to make sure that Donald Trump is defeated in 2024," including potentially voting for Biden.
The other thing, and I think Liz is implying this here is that he will just ignore the Constitution. He couldn't care less about it. Republicans will not cross him if holding power is his endgame.
In NORMAL times I would agree with you. Nothing about Trump is normal. What would have happened if Pence didn't certify? I'm listening to legal and constitutional experts and not guys on this board who have heard of the Constitution.
All he's gotta do is get 5 people on the SC who will uphold his "complete immunity" argument, and the Constitution goes out the window.
Do you honestly think that Donald Trump peacefully leaves office in January of 2029 and reports to prison?
this time he will put people in place that will go along with what he wants to do. He wont have those people that will go along with him right to the edge, and then reverse course when the gaurdrails come out.
And what if Superman had been born in nazi Germany. Let’s not indulge in comic book scenarios.
