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what did Alabama do to earn a Playoff spot?
they were 11-1 with only 8 wins over Power-5 teams
they did not win their Division
they did not win their Conference

Wisconsin was 12-1 with 9 wins against Power-5 teams
(West Division Champ)

Ohio State was 11-2 with 9 wins against Power-5 teams.
(Big Ten Champ)

neither Wisconsin nor Ohio State played an FCS team.
Alabama played Mercer... an FCS team... late in the season.

Iowa beating Ohio State should serve as an example that anyone can beat anybody on any given day...
so throwing Alabama into the mix gave them a chance... but did they earn it?
did they deserve to be thrown into the mix?

imo, they did not... and for me it completely ruined the relevancy and legitimacy of the current f'BS' Playoff System.
 
what did Alabama do to earn a Playoff spot?
they were 11-1 with only 8 wins over Power-5 teams
they did not win their Division
they did not win their Conference

Wisconsin was 12-1 with 9 wins against Power-5 teams
(West Division Champ)

Ohio State was 11-2 with 9 wins against Power-5 teams.
(Big Ten Champ)

neither Wisconsin nor Ohio State played an FCS team.
Alabama played Mercer... an FCS team... late in the season.

Iowa beating Ohio State should serve as an example that anyone can beat anybody on any given day...
so throwing Alabama into the mix gave them a chance... but did they earn it?
did they deserve to be thrown into the mix?

imo, they did not... and for me it completely ruined the relevancy and legitimacy of the current f'BS' Playoff System.

There are compelling arguments why Alabama shouldn't have made the playoffs, but the problem is Wisconsin and Ohio State weren't better alternatives.

Wisconsin played a weak schedule and didn't win their conference, either, and Ohio State had more than one loss, one being by 30 points to unranked Iowa.

Alabama clearly proved they deserved to be there by beating Clemson and Georgia. I get fans are sick of Alabama but that isn't a logical argument for why they shouldn't have been the #4 seed last year. The whole they didn't win their conference argument is bunk. None of you were using it the year before when Ohio State snuck in. And the whole point of the CFP was to get the 4 best teams in period. Clearly, Alabama was one of the four best teams.
 
There are compelling arguments why Alabama shouldn't have made the playoffs, but the problem is Wisconsin and Ohio State weren't better alternatives.

Wisconsin played a weak schedule and didn't win their conference, either, and Ohio State had more than one loss, one being by 30 points to unranked Iowa.

Alabama clearly proved they deserved to be there by beating Clemson and Georgia. I get fans are sick of Alabama but that isn't a logical argument for why they shouldn't have been the #4 seed last year. The whole they didn't win their conference argument is bunk. None of you were using it the year before when Ohio State snuck in. And the whole point of the CFP was to get the 4 best teams in period. Clearly, Alabama was one of the four best teams.
no no... thats absolute BS.... I don't believe Ohio State earned it the year before either... my argument has always been...

Conference Champions Only

if you are going to say Wisconsin's schedule was weak... lets compare Wisconsin with Alabama.

during the regular season Wisconsin was 12-0
Alabama was 11-1

Wisconsin had 9 wins over Power-5 teams
Alabama had 8 wins over Power-5 teams

Alabama had ZERO wins over 10-win teams

ZERO... think about that

Wisconsin at least had one win over a 10-win team (Northwestern)
plus Wisconsin never played an FCS team

Alabama did (Mercer)

the Mercer Bears....

a 5-6 FCS Mercer Bears team

its my opinion that not only did Wisconsin have a stronger schedule... they won all their regular season games...
Alabama did not.

and not only did Alabama not win all their regular season games...
the games they played were against weaker opponents

again... not one single opponent Alabama faced during the regular season ended the year with 10 wins.

I think its stupid... and it has completely ruined the idea of College Playoffs for me.
 
no no... thats absolute BS.... I don't believe Ohio State earned it the year before either... my argument has always been...

Conference Champions Only

if you are going to say Wisconsin's schedule was weak... lets compare Wisconsin with Alabama.

during the regular season Wisconsin was 12-0
Alabama was 11-1

Wisconsin had 9 wins over Power-5 teams
Alabama had 8 wins over Power-5 teams

Alabama had ZERO wins over 10-win teams

ZERO... think about that

Wisconsin at least had one win over a 10-win team (Northwestern)
plus Wisconsin never played an FCS team

Alabama did (Mercer)

the Mercer Bears....

a 5-6 FCS Mercer Bears team

its my opinion that not only did Wisconsin have a stronger schedule... they won all their regular season games...
Alabama did not.

and not only did Alabama not win all their regular season games...
the games they played were against weaker opponents

again... not one single opponent Alabama faced during the regular season ended the year with 10 wins.

I think its stupid... and it has completely ruined the idea of College Playoffs for me.
This was never going to be more then another beauty pagent until they put all the conference champs into the playoff. If your going to let some group of people PICK who's in and who's not, then your going to have discontent.
 
no no... thats absolute BS.... I don't believe Ohio State earned it the year before either... my argument has always been...

Conference Champions Only

if you are going to say Wisconsin's schedule was weak... lets compare Wisconsin with Alabama.

during the regular season Wisconsin was 12-0
Alabama was 11-1

Wisconsin had 9 wins over Power-5 teams
Alabama had 8 wins over Power-5 teams

Alabama had ZERO wins over 10-win teams

ZERO... think about that

Wisconsin at least had one win over a 10-win team (Northwestern)
plus Wisconsin never played an FCS team

Alabama did (Mercer)

the Mercer Bears....

a 5-6 FCS Mercer Bears team

its my opinion that not only did Wisconsin have a stronger schedule... they won all their regular season games...
Alabama did not.

and not only did Alabama not win all their regular season games...
the games they played were against weaker opponents

again... not one single opponent Alabama faced during the regular season ended the year with 10 wins.

I think its stupid... and it has completely ruined the idea of College Playoffs for me.

No, I understand where you are coming from. And if you believe only conference champions should be in then I see why you feel strongly against Alabama or Ohio State the year before. I disagree with it but respect what you are saying.

I also understand where you're coming from with Wisconsin's schedule, but I think by and large it's splitting hairs in comparison to Bama. Keep in mind Bama opened the season against preseason #3 FSU. Had their starting QB not gone down for the season, who knows how FSU would have done. Regardless, Bama scheduled a preseason Top 5 team. Not their fault what happened with FSU. Still, the greater point is Wisconsin's SOS wasn't significantly better in my view.
 
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There are compelling arguments why Alabama shouldn't have made the playoffs, but the problem is Wisconsin and Ohio State weren't better alternatives.

Wisconsin played a weak schedule and didn't win their conference, either, and Ohio State had more than one loss, one being by 30 points to unranked Iowa.

Alabama clearly proved they deserved to be there by beating Clemson and Georgia. I get fans are sick of Alabama but that isn't a logical argument for why they shouldn't have been the #4 seed last year. The whole they didn't win their conference argument is bunk. None of you were using it the year before when Ohio State snuck in. And the whole point of the CFP was to get the 4 best teams in period. Clearly, Alabama was one of the four best teams.
Evidenced by the fact that they won the National Championship.
 
There are compelling arguments why Alabama shouldn't have made the playoffs, but the problem is Wisconsin and Ohio State weren't better alternatives.

Wisconsin played a weak schedule and didn't win their conference, either, and Ohio State had more than one loss, one being by 30 points to unranked Iowa.

Alabama clearly proved they deserved to be there by beating Clemson and Georgia. I get fans are sick of Alabama but that isn't a logical argument for why they shouldn't have been the #4 seed last year. The whole they didn't win their conference argument is bunk. None of you were using it the year before when Ohio State snuck in. And the whole point of the CFP was to get the 4 best teams in period. Clearly, Alabama was one of the four best teams.
Oh St was probably the best team in the country last year.

Whether they deserved to get in or not is debatable but they deserved to be in over Ala.

Side note, they would’ve beat Ala & won the title had they gotten in.
 
Oh St was probably the best team in the country last year.

Whether they deserved to get in or not is debatable but they deserved to be in over Ala.

Side note, they would’ve beat Ala & won the title had they gotten in.

I’ll have some of what you’re smoking.
 
What is it that you cannot understand.
I'll try a diagram for you.
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I wish the playoff were 8 teams, with the 5 Conference champs from the Power 5 conferences, then 3 at large. It won't totally eliminate all complaints, but would help. Oh, the first round playoff games would be home games for the top 4 seeds.
 
I wish the playoff were 8 teams, with the 5 Conference champs from the Power 5 conferences, then 3 at large. It won't totally eliminate all complaints, but would help. Oh, the first round playoff games would be home games for the top 4 seeds.
I've been saying this for a while. This would be a great system and add a whopping 1 game for those teams. If the added game is really too much on the players I think most CFB fans would be fine with eliminating 1 non-con game (usually against a nobody) to make up for it.
 
So, the team that won the national championship didn't deserve to be in the playoffs to begin with? By that logic, isn't the entire premise of a playoff invalid? If the team that won it all should have been left out for losing one game and playing a team like Mercer, what criteria should be used to determine who gets in? Alabama had 12 players drafted this year-four of them in the first round. Who deserved to get in over them? OSU? Seriously? The team that lost a game at home and got destroyed at Iowa?
 
I've been saying this for a while. This would be a great system and add a whopping 1 game for those teams. If the added game is really too much on the players I think most CFB fans would be fine with eliminating 1 non-con game (usually against a nobody) to make up for it.

Not true. According to 95% of the people on here, all the hotels and restaurants in Iowa City/Coralville would close down within a year if Iowa didn't have another home game against UNI or Missouri State.
 
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So, the team that won the national championship didn't deserve to be in the playoffs to begin with? By that logic, isn't the entire premise of a playoff invalid? If the team that won it all should have been left out for losing one game and playing a team like Mercer, what criteria should be used to determine who gets in? Alabama had 12 players drafted this year-four of them in the first round. Who deserved to get in over them? OSU? Seriously? The team that lost a game at home and got destroyed at Iowa?
Play tougher non conference competition, don’t lose to Auburn, play (and win) an extra game against tough competition on a neutral field (conference title game), & DEFINITELY don’t play Mercer when the big boys are playing a 9th conference game!

Iowa was a too 20 team last year that played a top 5 schedule.
 
Four teams in, chosen by a committee gives ESPN and talk radio hours worth of programming. They need more than just the actual playoff games to sell advertising. This playoff gives us something new to talk about every week during the season. The objective isn’t crowning a true champion, it’s about how to sell the most ads.
 
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So, the team that won the national championship didn't deserve to be in the playoffs to begin with? By that logic, isn't the entire premise of a playoff invalid? If the team that won it all should have been left out for losing one game and playing a team like Mercer, what criteria should be used to determine who gets in? Alabama had 12 players drafted this year-four of them in the first round. Who deserved to get in over them? OSU? Seriously? The team that lost a game at home and got destroyed at Iowa?
Why not Iowa?.....Let's think outside the box here.
 
Play tougher non conference competition, don’t lose to Auburn, play (and win) an extra game against tough competition on a neutral field (conference title game), & DEFINITELY don’t play Mercer when the big boys are playing a 9th conference game!

Iowa was a too 20 team last year that played a top 5 schedule.

Iowa was 105th out of 130 in offense last year and 34th on defense. That definitely equals a top-20 team.
 
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what did Alabama do to earn a Playoff spot?
they were 11-1 with only 8 wins over Power-5 teams
they did not win their Division
they did not win their Conference

Wisconsin was 12-1 with 9 wins against Power-5 teams
(West Division Champ)

Ohio State was 11-2 with 9 wins against Power-5 teams.
(Big Ten Champ)

neither Wisconsin nor Ohio State played an FCS team.
Alabama played Mercer... an FCS team... late in the season.

Iowa beating Ohio State should serve as an example that anyone can beat anybody on any given day...
so throwing Alabama into the mix gave them a chance... but did they earn it?
did they deserve to be thrown into the mix?

imo, they did not... and for me it completely ruined the relevancy and legitimacy of the current f'BS' Playoff System.
And also Saban himself is on record as saying previously that a team that can't even win it's own conference shouldn't be in the playoffs.
 
So, the team that won the national championship didn't deserve to be in the playoffs to begin with? By that logic, isn't the entire premise of a playoff invalid? If the team that won it all should have been left out for losing one game and playing a team like Mercer, what criteria should be used to determine who gets in? Alabama had 12 players drafted this year-four of them in the first round. Who deserved to get in over them? OSU? Seriously? The team that lost a game at home and got destroyed at Iowa?
Then since they are always loaded with that much talent, and will always be a likely odds-on fave for the NC, let's just automatically let them in the playoff each year since clearly they have the most talent and best coach. Pay no attention to if they even win their division (let alone their conference). Just pencil them in. Is that what you're saying?
 
So, the team that won the national championship didn't deserve to be in the playoffs to begin with? By that logic, isn't the entire premise of a playoff invalid? If the team that won it all should have been left out for losing one game and playing a team like Mercer, what criteria should be used to determine who gets in? Alabama had 12 players drafted this year-four of them in the first round. Who deserved to get in over them? OSU? Seriously? The team that lost a game at home and got destroyed at Iowa?[/QU
Evidenced by the fact that they won the National Championship.
They got in by their talent and coaching alone. Didn't have the on-field credentials after playing their season, to warrant a spot. If that's how it works, trash the playoffs. Just go down the list at the beginning of the year, rate the overall talent on each team, pick the top four, and let 'em rumble.
 
There are compelling arguments why Alabama shouldn't have made the playoffs, but the problem is Wisconsin and Ohio State weren't better alternatives.

Wisconsin played a weak schedule and didn't win their conference, either, and Ohio State had more than one loss, one being by 30 points to unranked Iowa.

Alabama clearly proved they deserved to be there by beating Clemson and Georgia. I get fans are sick of Alabama but that isn't a logical argument for why they shouldn't have been the #4 seed last year. The whole they didn't win their conference argument is bunk. None of you were using it the year before when Ohio State snuck in. And the whole point of the CFP was to get the 4 best teams in period. Clearly, Alabama was one of the four best teams.
Ohio State shouldn't have been in it the year before either.
 
Then since they are always loaded with that much talent, and will always be a likely odds-on fave for the NC, let's just automatically let them in the playoff each year since clearly they have the most talent and best coach. Pay no attention to if they even win their division (let alone their conference). Just pencil them in. Is that what you're saying?

They won both playoff games. That is all the validation they needed. OSU didn't deserve to be in the conversation. CFU had a stronger argument for being in it than OSU did.
 
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Play tougher non conference competition, don’t lose to Auburn, play (and win) an extra game against tough competition on a neutral field (conference title game), & DEFINITELY don’t play Mercer when the big boys are playing a 9th conference game!

Iowa was a too 20 team last year that played a top 5 schedule.

You’re being serious.

At no point last season was Iowa a top 20 team. Auburn was 6th in country when they beat Alabama, at home, in an instate rivalry game.

Unranked Iowa beat OSU by 31, giving the Buckeyes their second loss of the season. How is OSU the best team in the country again?

Side note, Alabama did play in the playoffs and did win it. No hypotheticals needed.
 
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And also Saban himself is on record as saying previously that a team that can't even win it's own conference shouldn't be in the playoffs.
saban has won a national title twice without winning his conference.. but yes Wisconsin has a better resume then bama had last year.
 
Even though it took the help of Iowa to get into the playoff, I'm glad that Alabama did. They were the best team in the country and they proved it. The sole mission of the playoff committee is to pick the four BEST teams. That doesn't necessarily include the four teams that are the most deserving. Even though some folks hate it that Alabama was selected, it proved in hindsight to be the right decision. The committee hit a home run last year.
 
Maybe, just maybe O$U would have gotten in if Iowa doesn’t get beat in back to back games 2 different times during the season. If Iowa pulls one out against penn state or MSU or not go to Evanston and forget the offense in Iowa City Then not get beat by a 6 time loser in Purdue at home then maybe O$U would have got in.

So I agree with the OP it’s Iowa’s complete fault Bama got in! Lol we got beat by Purdue at home last year.. by 2 scores! O$U was probably just as disappointed in Iowa as us fans were the following 2 weeks after Iowa played O$U..
 
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