It really isn't whether OK is happy or not now. OK isn't going to say hey we are unhappy, we are going to the BIG. The decision to Join the BIG will come from the BIG. If that ever happened you would be a fool to think OK would just say "oh no we are quite happy making millions less". If the BIG invited OK (and OK could somehow get out of the mighty 4.5 GOR) I would give the BIG 12 less than 1% chance of OK staying.
Dissolution of the Big 12 teams ,Big 10 canidates.
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Well, I was just commenting on the hypothetical "If the Big 12 folds" which I don't think will happen in the near future, but the chance is better than 0% as well.
As for the Big 10 expanding, I'm not sure they do that again unless it is a top tier team. The only media markets they might want to move into that aren't Texas are deep in SEC territory and that just isn't going to happen. So, outside of a Big 12 collapse, that as you said, would only happen if Texas and Oklahoma leave I don't think the Big 10 expands again.
Now, numbers like $50 million a year for media rights might start to really look good for Texas and Oklahoma but I doubt anything would change until the next Big 10 media deal is coming up. The Big 10 may look to see if they can improve the value of the conference again before they negotiate the next deal.
OU was happy right up until they found out Purdue, Rutgers and IU will overshadow them when it comes to TV Revenue.
Not so sure they find that as appealing as isu grads seem to think.
Not so sure they find that as appealing as isu grads seem to think.
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I was just puzzled by the OP, and then your comments. IMHO, if the Big XII disintegrates there will be no question of where OU and UT will go, because their departure is the only thing that would have brought about the disintegration in the first place.
Incidentally, your reference to $50 million for media rights looking good to Texas is spot-on.....but I think it illustrates a misconception a lot of posters here seem to have. Texas will make $50 million or very close to it from media rights NEXT YEAR, whereas I think that number when applied to the BiG schools is a little down the road. The teasips made over $45 million in media rights this year, and the championship game will produce a few million more for each school.
I don't disagree with any of that, although I'm less certain than you seem to be about the BiG not expanding any time soon. Would the BiG not take Duke and UNC? All the talk here is about how shaky the Big XII is, but it's rock solid compared to the ACC.
I was just puzzled by the OP, and then your comments. IMHO, if the Big XII disintegrates there will be no question of where OU and UT will go, because their departure is the only thing that would have brought about the disintegration in the first place.
Incidentally, your reference to $50 million for media rights looking good to Texas is spot-on.....but I think it illustrates a misconception a lot of posters here seem to have. Texas will make $50 million or very close to it from media rights NEXT YEAR, whereas I think that number when applied to the BiG schools is a little down the road. The teasips made over $45 million in media rights this year, and the championship game will produce a few million more for each school.
I thought that was what it was too. Apparently it's a trend, kind of like planking and tebowing were, except you take a picture of a beautiful landscape with your nuts in the picture.
The B1G could get into the heart of SEC country by adding Georgia Tech. Ga Tech is located in a huge media market (Atlanta) and is an AAU member. They should be on the short list when the B1G expands at the end of the recently agreed upon TV contracts.
I don't think the B1G would take both Duke and North Carolina since their campus's are only 8 miles apart. I could see the B1G adding any 2 out of Virginia, North Carolina, or Georgia Tech.
My position is that if the BIG comes calling with an offer there are very few schools that turn it down, Notre Dame for one, Texas is another. That said, I don't want anymore expansion in the BIG. We're so far ahead in the money game right now that there is no need to expand and that odds are most additions will only dilute the current revenue pool. Right now we are teetering on the edge of losing our geographic identity and we need a decade or so to assimilate the newest eastern members in Rutgers and Maryland before we think of expansion again. The BIG's roots are as a Midwestern conference. Now we are a Midwest to Northeast conference, roughly covering the entire NE quarter of the U.S. if you cut the country into four squares. Now we're talking about southern expansion? At some point the conference will be too big and too unwieldy with schools in it that have different regional histories and therefore divergent thought processes.
I remember the big WAC expansion from years ago and how that was supposed to be emerge into some great superconference. It got too big and imploded on itself with the best of its schools leaving to form the Mountain West Conference. I don't want to see the BIG grow so large it implodes and there is a reshuffling where Iowa gets stuck in some reimagined remnant of the BIG West with Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Missouri, or some other crap like that. It would be nothing more than a rebuilt Big 8 Conference.
I remember the big WAC expansion from years ago and how that was supposed to be emerge into some great superconference. It got too big and imploded on itself with the best of its schools leaving to form the Mountain West Conference. I don't want to see the BIG grow so large it implodes and there is a reshuffling where Iowa gets stuck in some reimagined remnant of the BIG West with Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Missouri, or some other crap like that. It would be nothing more than a rebuilt Big 8 Conference.
