Do you know what Trump was found guilty of?

[TJ8869]

Yes. The Democrats held one of their own accountable.

Lol. A few did, anyway. Not even a majority of them did. Just enough to compel him to resign. And only because there were no consequences to the party for doing so. Minnesota’s Democratic governor had his Democratic replacement ready to be sworn in on the very next day after Franken left.

Hell, most of the Democrats who pressured him to resign have changed their minds and expressed regret over doing so.

Now let’s talk about Bob Menendez….

 

[Ferentz_Fan]

This is no burn, it is corny.

 

[lucas80]

Lol. A few did, anyway. Not even a majority of them did. Just enough to compel him to resign. And only because there were no consequences to the party for doing so. Minnesota’s Democratic governor had his Democratic replacement ready to be sworn in on the very next day after Franken left.

Hell, most of the Democrats who pressured him to resign have changed their minds and expressed regret over doing so.

Now let’s talk about Bob Menendez….

LOL, look at TJ churn in this thread.
That's a whole lot of words to say, "Yes, the Dems held Franken accountable", before going with a patented whataboutism. Incidentally, Menendez is on trial as we type, and no Dem has shown up to support him at the courthouse, and no Dem is rage tweeting fundraising messages over him. Dems aren't promising civil war in the streets if Menendez is convicted.

 

[torbee]

Don't lie, you like a good train wreck

I can’t watch that lying blowhard jackass rapist criminal live.

I read the post-mortem from non-dummies and non-cable news dumderheads instead.

 

[Joes Place]

Now let’s talk about Bob Menendez….

Yes, let's.

I see ZERO Democrats OR Biden running interference for him.
OR making excuses for him.

 

[alaskanseminole]

This is no burn, it is corny.

 

[TJ8869]

LOL, look at TJ churn in this thread.
That's a whole lot of words to say, "Yes, the Dems held Franken accountable", before going with a patented whataboutism. Incidentally, Menendez is on trial as we type, and no Dem has shown up to support him at the courthouse, and no Dem is rage tweeting fundraising messages over him. Dems aren't promising civil war in the streets if Menendez is convicted.

Dems love to puff out their chests and claim they always do the right thing. But the bottom line is they do the right thing when it’s politically expedient, and Menendez is proof of that.

Franken was expendable because he could be quickly replaced with another Democrat. Republicans sent Santos home before his case even went to trial. But Dems refuse to
do the same with Menendez because there might be consequences for the party if they did.

Hell, Dems tried to drag Feinstein across the finish line in order to improve the chances for their preferred replacement in this year’s election even though her brain was so ravaged by dementia that she literally had no idea where she was, had to be told by her staff members how to vote, and couldn’t understand why Kamala Harris was presiding over a Senate session. All because they wanted to grease the rails for Adam Schiff in November.

So don’t start up with your “Dems always do the right thing” shit.

 

[TJ8869]

Yes, let's.

I see ZERO Democrats OR Biden running interference for him.
OR making excuses for him.

But they allow him to continue serving as a United States Senator.

 

[Ferentz_Fan]

Yes, let's.

I see ZERO Democrats OR Biden running interference for him.
OR making excuses for him.

Reminds me of the clown that pulled the fire alarm.

 

[torbee]

So don’t start up with your “Dems always do the right thing” shit.

I don’t think that’s the argument most are making.

They are pointing out the massive gulf in difference between the cultish devotion to a POS criminal by mainstream republicans compared to the much more tepid and sometimes non-existent cover Dems give to their bad seeds.

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

There's a difference?

I can believe you would ask that. You must be a left wing commie card carrying member of green peace, Margret Sanger prodigy. Did I leave anything out? Maybe an investor in Burisma and ran Yanukovich out of town?

 

[hawkirugged17]

 

[alaskanseminole]

I decided to check in on a few more of my unfollowed MAGA friends on FB. They did not disappoint:

 

[jneffer]

I decided to check in on a few more of my unfollowed MAGA friends on FB. They did not disappoint:

2 or the 4 are either under indictment or in prison right now.

 

[HawkMachine]

Haven't followed it at all.

I just heard "hush money" so I figured it was about him paying off the Stormy pornstar (which I'm about 100% I've jerked off to before).

Ends up being about falsifying docs? Had no clue.

 

[Joes Place]

Dems love to puff out their chests and claim they always do the right thing. But the bottom line is they do the right thing when it’s politically expedient, and Menendez is proof of that.

LOLWUT?

Dems are not defending Menendez. They are letting the justice system work its way through.

 

[Joes Place]

I can believe you would ask that.

Right? Because it makes complete sense.

you'd rather be a Russian, than a Democrat, bro.

 

[Joes Place]

But they allow him to continue serving as a United States Senator.

Because he has not been adjudicated as "guilty" in a court yet.

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

Right? Because it makes complete sense.

you'd rather be a Russian, than a Democrat, bro.

Жить в России нехорошо для американцев

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

Right? Because it makes complete sense.

you'd rather be a Russian, than a Democrat, bro.

Иногда у тебя есть чувство юмора. Иногда у тебя есть чувство юмора. не очень много

 

[Joes Place]

 

[Joes Place]

 

[Joes Place]

E: "I didn't see the Tweet"

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

This article pretty much sums it up and the issues with the prosecution. I've read Mish for years and he for sure is not Trump fan, nor Biden fan.

Biden fans are going hate. Trump fans are gonna hate. In the end this may be a the point of the downfall of our current system as we act more and more like Ukraine and Russia in how we run Govt.

Mish does not take a position of Trump's guilt. He raises questions of how and why the conviction was achieved.

Trump Found Guilty – a Travesty of Justice for America

Trump was found guilty of a crime but can anyone say what it is? Prosecutorial misconduct is dripping. It’s the judge, not Trump who belongs in prison.

mishtalk.com

Personally I do not want Trump or Biden to run.

Some dude with an economics blog, who is not a lawyer nor legal scholar, is outraged. And we should care about his opinion why?

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

Wait a minute, you think Stormy paid Trump?


How would Trump benefit from paying Stormy?


What happened was Trump paid Cohen back for paying off Stormy, whether he knew about it or not, and that was coded incorrectly. Because it wasn't taxed correctly.



Cohen didn't get a heloc on his house to make a payment to trump for funsies. Cohen paid Stormy, then Cohen got paid via Trump, there was no campaign contribution from Cohen.

When not talking politics you seem like someone I would enjoy having a few beers with. But damn you are seriously misinformed on this case. Like you actually have to try to be this ignorant of what Trump did and why it was illegal.

If you are ever in the Chicago area hit me up and I will buy you a beer and explain it. Cause, no offense, you are really embarrassing yourself right now.

 

[Joes Place]

 

[Joes Place]

Meanwhile...

 

[torbee]

When not talking politics you seem like someone I would enjoy having a few beers with. But damn you are seriously misinformed on this case. Like you actually have to try to be this ignorant of what Trump did and why it was illegal.

If you are ever in the Chicago area hit me up and I will buy you a beer and explain it. Cause, no offense, you are really embarrassing yourself right now.

90% sure he just likes to play dumb for the sport of it. At least I hope so for his and his family’s sake!

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

Some dude with an economics blog, who is not a lawyer nor legal scholar, is outraged. And we should care about his o't

Some dude with an economics blog, who is not a lawyer nor legal scholar, is outraged. And we should care about his opinion why?

Maybe it doesn't hurt to listen to others. Or we can all sit in our corner and talk to ourselves about what we want to hear. I don't always agree with him but he did say some things I hadn't though about. But you wouldn't have said what you said if you cared about anything other than what you think.

 

[joelbc1]

Lol. A few did, anyway. Not even a majority of them did. Just enough to compel him to resign. And only because there were no consequences to the party for doing so. Minnesota’s Democratic governor had his Democratic replacement ready to be sworn in on the very next day after Franken left.

Hell, most of the Democrats who pressured him to resign have changed their minds and expressed regret over doing so.

Now let’s talk about Bob Menendez….

What have the Republicans done as a Party to “punish” Trump for his (numerous) women’s assault transgressions, TJ? In fact…..what have individual Republican politicians done to decry the Orange Turd’s actions against women?

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

Maybe it doesn't hurt to listen to others. Or we can all sit in our corner and talk to ourselves about what we want to hear. I don't always agree with him but he did say some things I hadn't though about. But you wouldn't have said what you said if you cared about anything other than what you think.

It’s a fair point to listen to other fact based sources. I try very hard to stick to factual content and form opinions fresh from that. I read the Journal, NYT (thanks ciggy), watch a variety of non-opinion news on TV. When I do hear an opinion I want to know the qualifications of the person offering the opinion. Your guy might be interesting on economic topics, but please understand I don’t give a shit about his take on the law as he is not an expert.

One thing I try hard not to do is regurgitate opinion pieces just because it “feels” right to me. That is how confirmation bias happens.

 

[TJ8869]

What have the Republicans done as a Party to “punish” Trump for his (numerous) women’s assault transgressions, TJ? In fact…..what have individual Republican politicians done to decry the Orange Turd’s actions against women?

They’ve done nothing to punish him, because they’re afraid of what will happen to their own careers. I am in no way excusing Republicans for their dereliction of duty in that regard. I’m simply pointing out that, contrary to what many Dems on this board want to believe, Dems don’t eat their
own either. Not unless they calculate that the benefits of doing do outweigh the losses.

 

[TJ8869]

Because he has not been adjudicated as "guilty" in a court yet.

For which crimes have Al Franken and George Santos been adjudicated as “guilty” in a court?

 

[THE_DEVIL]

May or may not be legit

 

[joelbc1]

They’ve done nothing to punish him, because they’re afraid of what will happen to their own careers. I am in no way excusing Republicans for their dereliction of duty in that regard. I’m simply pointing out that, contrary to what many Dems on this board want to believe, Dems don’t eat their
own either. Not unless they calculate that the benefits of doing do outweigh the losses.

Dems have a much stronger record of dealing with their own, TJ. Don’t bullshit your self. The GOP has no balls when it comes to that sort of thing…….GOP in Latin means “no moral fiber”….did you know that?

 

[TJ8869]

Dems have a much stronger record of dealing with their own, TJ. Don’t bullshit your self. The GOP has no balls when it comes to that sort of thing…….GOP in Latin means “no moral fiber”….did you know that?

 

[gohawks50]

May or may not be legit

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It would be great if true.

I'm sure MAGA would support Trump banning felons from traveling to the US from foreign countries.

 

[Ferentz_Fan]

LOLWUT?

Dems are not defending Menendez. They are letting the justice system work its way through.

I don't recall them condemning him either, but maybe I missed it.

 

[Ferentz_Fan]

May or may not be legit

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Yeah man, hit him where it hurts, lol. The important stuff.

 

[Ferentz_Fan]

Dems have a much stronger record of dealing with their own, TJ. Don’t bullshit your self. The GOP has no balls when it comes to that sort of thing…….GOP in Latin means “no moral fiber”….did you know that?

LOL