Do you still live in Iowa?

[el dub]

GG, you will have GREAT time. Bring or buy a kite!
Also, the beer and wine in Oregon is off-the-charts good. So is food in Portland.
I never met a halibut fish & chips that I didn't like.

They are putting out great ciders in Oregon as well.

I love halibut fish and chips, but usually end up buying local pacific snapper in the market to prepare at home. It’s really tasty and in expensive here.

I’m most familiar with the coast between Lincoln City down to Florence.

Btw, it looks like Sunday morning will be my next best weather/tide opportunity to get out and chase down some mussels/goose neck barnacles and limpets.

 

[UndercoverHawk]

As someone who’s directly involved in ag and animal production more specifically, it’s hilarious (and also a little sad) reading some of this.

 

[T8KUDWN]

So you picked a spot without hog farms in your backyard, but the wind turbines move in. Got it.

Quite unfortunate that the world did not conform with your expectations.

Good Lord, this has been a pretty decent discussion until your high & mighty annoying ass had to join in. I have hog buildings in the area I live. I can easily see hog buildings from my house, but I rarely get the smell of them. Todays large confinement buildings put off a way different odor than the 30 sow farrowing unit I grew up with. We like to be able to put our clothes out on the line & like them to smell fresh instead of like crap from an animal. There are days when I can smell cattle, there are days when I can smell hogs, but it’s not overbearing at my place. I’m sorry to disappoint you that I don’t smell sh*t all day everyday. To put it plain & simple the wind turbines have greatly reduced the quality of my life & the quality of my life is a big deal to me. In fact we are at the point where if this was a face to face conversation, you would be told to shut the F up & if you chose not to you would probably not enjoy the consequences. Damn, not the direction I wanted to take myself on Good Friday, but it is what it is I guess.

 

[el dub]

I can tell you that since the wind turbines have gone up in the area I live the amount of wind we have had has increased. Sure there could be other factors, but I don't know how what I have journaled can be dismissed. I have written in a journal, daily most of my adult life, thanks to a college professor of mine who suggested it. Initially it was just the ins and outs of my day, what went on, what I got accomplished, what I still needed to get done and the goals I have. As time has gone on I have added to my journaling. One of the things I write down everyday is the low and high temp, amount of precipitation and wind speed and direction(s). This information backs that we have had more wind and higher speeds since the turbines have arrived.

Look at it this way…. Wind blows through an area with a certain amount of energy. Wind turbines capture some of that energy by harnessing the wind. That process theoretically slows the wind down.

If the process sped up the wind, it would be generating more energy out than it took in. And that would be something new, eh?

 

[T8KUDWN]

Look at it this way…. Wind blows through an area with a certain amount of energy. Wind turbines capture some of that energy by harnessing the wind. That process theoretically slows the wind down.

If the process sped up the wind, it would be generating more energy out than it took in. And that would be something new, eh?

From my visual observations, the speed the blades rotate does not change when the wind picks up. They always stay a constant speed. When the winds get really aggressive or storms come through they shut off. Not every time but it’s fairly common from what I see. I’m just giving you the information that I have gathered, on the increase in wind & decrease in precipitation since they turbines went into function in my area. Not lying or BSing anyone, just stating the facts I have gathered.

 

[grapplefann]

As someone who’s directly involved in ag and animal production more specifically, it’s hilarious (and also a little sad) reading some of this.

Then do tell us what the real story is. I may be misinformed, but I'm not averse to learning some new things.

 

[grapplefann]

They are putting out great ciders in Oregon as well.

I love halibut fish and chips, but usually end up buying local pacific snapper in the market to prepare at home. It’s really tasty and in expensive here.

I’m most familiar with the coast between Lincoln City down to Florence.

Btw, it looks like Sunday morning will be my next best weather/tide opportunity to get out and chase down some mussels/goose neck barnacles and limpets.

Low tide in Oregon is the BEST. Lots of starfish and anemones. Couldn't dig fast enough to catch the clams, but I didn't really know what I was doing either.

 

[GG121AND2]

I'd recommend Manzanita on the coast in lieu of Cannon Beach. Its more off the grid. I'm sure @el dub could weigh in though.

I didn't get to choose. My brothers selected Waldport. We got a house on the beach.

 

[el dub]

From my visual observations, the speed the blades rotate does not change when the wind picks up. They always stay a constant speed. When the winds get really aggressive or storms come through they shut off. Not every time but it’s fairly common from what I see. I’m just giving you the information that I have gathered, on the increase in wind & decrease in precipitation since they turbines went into function in my area. Not lying or BSing anyone, just stating the facts I have gathered.

I doubt they spin freely. The systems might have a governor to limit max amount of energy they can generate without frying circuits or throwing blades?

 

[grapplefann]

Good Lord, this has been a pretty decent discussion until your high & mighty annoying ass had to join in. I have hog buildings in the area I live. I can easily see hog buildings from my house, but I rarely get the smell of them. Todays large confinement buildings put off a way different odor than the 30 sow farrowing unit I grew up with. We like to be able to put our clothes out on the line & like them to smell fresh instead of like crap from an animal. There are days when I can smell cattle, there are days when I can smell hogs, but it’s not overbearing at my place. I’m sorry to disappoint you that I don’t smell sh*t all day everyday. To put it plain & simple the wind turbines have greatly reduced the quality of my life & the quality of my life is a big deal to me. In fact we are at the point where if this was a face to face conversation, you would be told to shut the F up & if you chose not to you would probably not enjoy the consequences. Damn, not the direction I wanted to take myself on Good Friday, but it is what it is I guess.

Do you get the strobe effect from the blades? I've heard that people that live close to wind turbines suffer from the constant low-frequency noise and the "strobing" effect as the blades cast this on-and-off shadow. I'm all for environmentally sound energy, but I wouldn't want to live close to a wind turbine either.

 

[T8KUDWN]

I doubt they spin freely. The systems might have a governor to limit max amount of energy they can generate without frying circuits or throwing blades?

There must be something to limit the speed they rotate. Maybe they way they are geared, I’m not sure on that, but from what I understand they do have some type of breaking system.

 

[grapplefann]

I didn't get to choose. My brothers selected Waldport. We got a house on the beach.

Can't beat a house on the Oregon beach.

 

[grapplefann]

I didn't get to choose. My brothers selected Waldport. We got a house on the beach.

One more thing: Get a tide table for the dates of your visit. Some of those very-low tides make tide pool exploration a whole lot more fun. The high and low tides in Oregon are significant.
https://www.tides.net/oregon/2905/

 

[T8KUDWN]

Do you get the strobe effect from the blades? I've heard that people that live close to wind turbines suffer from the constant low-frequency noise and the "strobing" effect as the blades cast this on-and-off shadow. I'm all for environmentally sound energy, but I wouldn't want to live close to a wind turbine either.

Yes I do. I frequently have the shadows from the blades go across my house in the morning. The noise part is kind of hard for me to put into words where I feel like I am explaining it right. Best case scenario are the days it sounds like a truck is coming up the road. You keep looking for the truck but it never shows up and then it just gets worse from there. There are times when you can feel it inside your body. Hard to explain, but it’s real. One of the weirdest things has gone on with my dogs. There are nights when my German Shepherd goes to get out of my pickup & then pulls back. She does this repeatedly & I have to grab her by the collar to get her out. She sees something & but I admit I don’t. Both her & my coonhound will do something similar when they are walking across the yard when it’s dark. They pull back like they see something & won’t keep going forward. They will actually kind of duck their heads. It’s weird & has to be something from the turbines.

 

[laker3588]

There must be something to limit the speed they rotate. Maybe they way they are geared, I’m not sure on that, but from what I understand they do have some type of breaking system.

The rpm's of the rotor are controlled by the pitch angle of the blades not all turbines are the same but the vast majority of them are controlled this way. There is tremendous energy in the wind. As the wind speed increases the blades pitch to become less efficient and create drag to maintain their rotor speed. Depending on the type of turbine they turn at the same RPM whether the wind speed is 10mph or 30mph. This is necessary for the generator to create energy which can be put on the grid at 60 Hz. Unless it's a direct drive turbine which is rare gearboxes multiply up the speed to turn generators anywhere from around 1500 RPM to 2500 RPM Depending on how many Poles they have and what type of generator it is. Turbines have a cut in and cut out speed generally around 5 to 7 miles per hour for the generator to start generating electricity. Cut out can be around 40 to 45 miles an hour for unloading the generator.
Obviously there's a lot more to wind turbines. We have to understand there is good and bad with every type of power generation we need all types

 

[Trapper85]

I have some job and family medical issues to deal with or else I would return to Iowa as well.
When I go home to visit, I feel the stress fall away.

Thoughts with you on the family medical issues.

 

[el dub]

72 years in Eastern Iowa - born in Muscatine, grew up and educated in Davenport (Central HS & St Ambrose College) knocked around small towns (Princeton, Dewitt, Durant & Wilton) and have lived in Cedar Rapids since 1987. Daughters, grandkids and the people are why I stay.

My brothers moved to the Pacific Northwest over 40 years ago so our family reunion is going to be on the Oregon coast this summer.

Woo-hoo! Hope you guys have a nice time on the coast.

My suggestion… Check out the local Pinot Noirs and “flowers.”

 

[el dub]

The rpm's of the rotor are controlled by the pitch angle of the blades not all turbines are the same but the vast majority of them are controlled this way. There is tremendous energy in the wind. As the wind speed increases the blades pitch to become less efficient and create drag to maintain their rotor speed. Depending on the type of turbine they turn at the same RPM whether the wind speed is 10mph or 30mph. This is necessary for the generator to create energy which can be put on the grid at 60 Hz. Unless it's a direct drive turbine which is rare gearboxes multiply up the speed to turn generators anywhere from around 1500 RPM to 2500 RPM Depending on how many Poles they have and what type of generator it is. Turbines have a cut in and cut out speed generally around 5 to 7 miles per hour for the generator to start generating electricity. Cut out can be around 40 to 45 miles an hour for unloading the generator.
Obviously there's a lot more to wind turbines. We have to understand there is good and bad with every type of power generation we need all types

So, what happens after 45 mph? Do they keep them running in high winds? What does unloading the generator entail?

Thanks!

 

[laker3588]

So, what happens after 45 mph? Do they keep them running in high winds? What does unloading the generator entail?

Thanks!

What I mean by loading the generator is when there's sufficient of power in the wind when the rotors turning the generator will start producing electricity it will produce electricity through the range of what the capacity of the generator is. It's in wind turbine generation mode. The rotor can be spinning in low wind and no electricity is being produced cause there's not a power but when the wind gets too high it'll shut down to protect itself.

Generally the cut out speed of most turbines is 20-25m/s or x 2.237 for mph. Gusty wind puts a great amount of stress on them because of the power so they could shut down sooner due to vibration faults. The turbines will pitch their blades so they're parallel with the wind so they will not create lift and turn. This will protect the machine in these high winds scenarios the rotor is not turning. If you ever look at a wind turbine the blades are perpendicular to the wind create lift. When they are parallel not turning they're faulted out or or not running for some reason. The brake s only used to hold the rotor when it stopped for maintenance or emergency stop.
Doing voice to text so excuse grammar.

 

[globalhawk]

The amount the wind we have had has definitely increased a lot. Especially how much in blows in the evening/nights. From my observation and looking back at weather history it has changed as the amount of wind turbines have gone up. We did not have wind like this in the area I live in until we had all these turbines dumped on us.

Whaaaaat? This hurts my head.

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

I don’t smell sh*t all day everyday.

Happy 4 U

 

[el dub]

I didn't get to choose. My brothers selected Waldport. We got a house on the beach.

Cool. That’s in my stomping grounds. You guys should have a nice time.

 

[Left_Coast_Bias]

30 plus years in Portland, OR area. Lots of change, especially recently. Horrible in spots, with lots of work to be done. Pretty typical of a big city these days. Not as bad as some of the national perception, not as peaceful as some portrayed. Still plenty of good. COVID hurt the core a lot, but starting to rebound. Insanely expensive housing which is driving out a lot of younger folks, including one of my kids. Overall can't imagine being anywhere else though.

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

@T8KUDWN

I apologize that what I wrote earlier came across as insensitive. I assure you that wasn't my intent.

I had earlier written

I feel for your obviously less than ideal circumstances, both financial and quality of life.

That is how I truly feel. I also have experienced realities of life that quite unfortunately didn't align with my plans through no fault of my own.

I sincerely hope and pray you will be able to overcome your present adversity in a way that maximally preserves the quality of life you desire and your peace of mind.

 

[thom67]

Can't beat a house on the Oregon beach.

You could spend the winter on Holiday Lake.

 

[Pakman770]

Grew up in Waterloo, bounced around Europe, Asia, US east coast/the south while in the AF and now working a gig in Savannah , GA.

 

[PD4thespawn]

Knew a guy who ran a small hog operation in Iowa. The smell was nothing compared to being downwind of a chicken house In the summer in Arkansas

 

[el dub]

Knew a guy who ran a small hog operation in Iowa. The smell was nothing compared to being downwind of a chicken house In the summer in Arkansas

I’ve smelt both. Hog is the worse, by far, imo. (For my nose.) But…. Arkansas? Maybe that played a factor in the equation? Lol

 

[el dub]

One more thing: Get a tide table for the dates of your visit. Some of those very-low tides make tide pool exploration a whole lot more fun. The high and low tides in Oregon are significant.
https://www.tides.net/oregon/2905/

I plan each and every trip to the coast based on the day’s tides. There are high tide activities, (pics) low tide, (harvesting) and places NOT to be when tide is rising.

 

[el dub]

I’ve smelt both. Hog is the worse, by far, imo. (For my nose.) But…. Arkansas? Maybe that played a factor in the equation? Lol

My list from least to most offensive would be as follows…

Horse
Cow
Sheep
Chicken
Hog

 

[grapplefann]

My list from least to most offensive would be as follows…

Horse
Cow
Sheep
Chicken
Hog

That's my experience also. Horse, cow, rabbits, and sheep, not too bad. Chickens and hog, worse. However stink is in the nose of the one who smells, so ymmv. I took my wife to the Iowa State Fair, and she had no problem with anything except the hog area, and I didn't think that was really too bad at all for a hog area. I've smelled so much worse. As a guy said to her: "We ain't growing roses in here, lady."

 

[blcoach80]

Yes I do. I frequently have the shadows from the blades go across my house in the morning. The noise part is kind of hard for me to put into words where I feel like I am explaining it right. Best case scenario are the days it sounds like a truck is coming up the road. You keep looking for the truck but it never shows up and then it just gets worse from there. There are times when you can feel it inside your body. Hard to explain, but it’s real. One of the weirdest things has gone on with my dogs. There are nights when my German Shepherd goes to get out of my pickup & then pulls back. She does this repeatedly & I have to grab her by the collar to get her out. She sees something & but I admit I don’t. Both her & my coonhound will do something similar when they are walking across the yard when it’s dark. They pull back like they see something & won’t keep going forward. They will actually kind of duck their heads. It’s weird & has to be something from the turbines.

That is weird. Dogs seem to have that 6th sense when something is not right. Maybe the turbines put off a high frequency sound or something we can't hear?! Really makes you wonder.

 

[sstark46]

Grew up in Eldora and then Grundy Center (where I graduated high school). Moved to Iowa City for school and haven't been able to leave since- absolutely fell in love with this area, and it's done very well for me. I am so grateful I grew up in small town Iowa, but I definitely don't think I'd ever move back

 

[Nashville_Hawkeye]

Love it. I want to move to Costa Rica! Don’t think Mrs.Z is all that cracked up about it!

Z

That's how it is at my house as well, Mike. I've talked to the wife several times about possible locations in Central and South America (Costa Rica, Panama, Argentina and Chile) where we can retire and live very well on our projected retirement income. Each time my wife looks at me like I'm an idiot. LOL! She's extremely close to her family and would never go for it.

 

[Nashville_Hawkeye]

Tucson was home, off and on, for 20+ years. Great place to live from Oct-April. I like living in IC because of the small college town atmosphere...enough stuff to keep you busy around here but it doesn't take a 30-45 mins to get everywhere because of traffic. Scottsdale is swankier...PHX area is a lot bigger but fairly convenient to get around.

I did my undergrad at Arizona State while living/working in Scottsdale, and also spent a couple years down south in Sierra Vista/Fort Huachuca when I was in Army Intelligence. I tried to get my wife to retire from the Army in the Phoenix area due to the warm weather and the proximity to the mountains, ocean, national parks, etc., but because her mom was living in Nashville I was pretty much told where we would live. I love Phoenix and the surrounding areas. Actually took the wife back there a couple years ago to see if she would reconsider but no chance.

 

[Nashville_Hawkeye]

I'm in PNW (Seattle).

Outside of politics, cost of living, homelessness, and traffic I love it. Lol

I come back to Iowa quite a bit and would never rule out moving back one day.

Lived near Tacoma for a year back in the day. Beautiful area but too much rain for me. Beautiful area though.

 

[Nashville_Hawkeye]

Boise is my favorite small city, for many reasons.

Beautiful up there! Spent a few years of my childhood in Libby, Montana, about 75 miles NE of Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. The wife and I went through there 8-9 years ago doing a mountain getaway trip (visited MT, ID, Yellowstone, Jackson, Grand Tetons and Park City, UT. We love driving out to the mountains when we have a couple weeks so we can really enjoy it, but most years we just head to Vail, CO for a summer getaway. Great place to escape to in the summer...weather is perfect and there's so much to see and do.

 

[pink shizzle]

Moved to Long Beach, CA for grad school seven years ago. Lived in Wisconsin and Iowa before that.

 

[el dub]

Beautiful up there! Spent a few years of my childhood in Libby, Montana, about 75 miles NE of Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. The wife and I went through there 8-9 years ago doing a mountain getaway trip (visited MT, ID, Yellowstone, Jackson, Grand Tetons and Park City, UT. We love driving out to the mountains when we have a couple weeks so we can really enjoy it, but most years we just head to Vail, CO for a summer getaway. Great place to escape to in the summer...weather is perfect and there's so much to see and do.

Caught some Phil Lesh shows in that part of CO last fall. There are many people in Vail/Leadville/BV area now my friend is thinking about moving.

 

[T8KUDWN]

Caught some Phil Lesh shows in that part of CO last fall. There are many people in Vail/Leadville/BV area now my friend is thinking about moving.

I'm thinking about making a road trip to Telluride, CO in June to see a Phil & Friends show