Do you support food stamps?
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We are the wealthiest country in the world, we shouldn't have any hungry or homeless.
That's a neat feature of capitalism. For some to win, others have to lose. For some to win real big (billionaires) some people have to lose real big (homeless and hungry).
This one is more confusing to me.
Do I support them as a thing that exists? I guess so. But the bigger answer is who I would, and wouldn't, support receiving them; the checks and balances to ensure they're not being abused or fraudulently received; and any conditions upon which their receipt might be contingent.
Do I support them as a thing that exists? I guess so. But the bigger answer is who I would, and wouldn't, support receiving them; the checks and balances to ensure they're not being abused or fraudulently received; and any conditions upon which their receipt might be contingent.
Homelessness hit 770k this year, and it probably will to continue going up. It's an absolute failure of the government. They are more concerned with the money for the people with the most money above the welfare of it's citizens.
Nailed it. Nobody on here should be able to argue that point.
But we also shouldn't be expected to carry people who can, but choose not to, take care of themselves.
Yes but I also think “what” is allowed to be purchased is the bigger issue
Like farmers, or big businesses
This is such a tiresome argument. Most people with EBT just want to feed their families.
Do we tell you how to spend your tax refunds or government handouts during COVID? Nope. So stfu
Sorry, I inferred that from "...we shouldn't have any hungry or homeless.". If that inference was incorrect, I apologize.
I think there are people who are happy/satisfied living off handouts, rather than working to support themselves and their families, even though they could. I don't think we, even as the wealthiest country in the world, should have a responsibility to help those people.
You'll pay for them one way or another. I hope you realize this. Judicial system, lack of parenting, foster care, mental health crisis, opioid crisis.
To think otherwise is putting your head in the sand. I'm sorry, I have worked with these folk over the years. Did I get pissed off sometimes? Yes. But I know the alternatives. Families living in cars or in campsites. You may not like it. I don't either. But it is reality. Anytime you have billionaires yet homeless and hungry.....society has misplaced their values.
You know this how on what empirical data?
95 million sq ft of NYC office space vacant. Then hundreds of empty residential buildings that are held as investments for the investor class. Crazy world.
We should put a special tax on registered democrats to pay for some of the stupid things they want.
I'm sure he did his own research, and it was very extensive and time-consuming.
No way anyone would come up with such an exact number just instantaneously off the top of their heads on such a complex subject.
This thread brings an incident to mind that I witnessed while waiting in line once at a Casey's. A woman with a couple kids purchased a number of food items with an EBT card. I only know this because she asked a question about the card as she was checking out. After that transaction, she then bought cigarillos and lottery tickets with cash. I'll admit, my first emotion was one of annoyance. It was an obvious abuse of the system, right? But, then I actually looked at these people. They looked disheveled from top to bottom. And I saw them walk out and get into a rusted out, damaged minivan with headlights almost dimmed to nothing by heavy oxidation. They clearly didn't have much. And who knows what "home" they were returning to. It was an interesting series of thoughts.
Mental Illness is a part of this as well as fetal alcohol exposure.
Even poor people deserve a treat from time to time.
I get the "most", but if there are opportunities to catch/prevent misuse, we should have a responsibility to do that, so that a greater percentage of available funds are going to those that really need it.
The guys that stand outside of the grocery store offering to buy groceries using their EBT cards, in exchange for the cash, aren't trying to feed their families.
And tax refunds (money I earned, that was taken by the government, and given back to me) aren't the same as EBT payments (money I earned, that was taken by the government, and given to someone else).
Take them away and you’ll see a huge spike in crime.
Totally. Would have been way better if the options were:
Yes - but you have to fish them out of Pelosi’s colon to use them or
No - but then you have to give Biden a rusty trombone.
They need to be required to eat healthier food.
Funny story. Wife and I were in St Louis in Kirkwood. At a grocery store an older lady came up and asked for help with food.. Wife said yes. She picked out filet mignon and other nice items totaling about 100. We played along with it as she left the store (we followed) her to a nice Cadillac and continued to follow her to a gated neighborhood.
It was a hilarious experience and worth the 100. I figured she was living life under a trust and the trustee cut her off at the end of the month.
Funny story. Wife and I were in St Louis in Kirkwood. At a grocery store an older lady came up and asked for help with food.. Wife said yes. She picked out filet mignon and other nice items totaling about 100. We played along with it as she left the store (we followed) her to a nice Cadillac and continued to follow her to a gated neighborhood.
It was a hilarious experience and worth the 100. I figured she was living life under a trust and the trustee cut her off at the end of the month.
The need for our country to better address, and fund, mental health care is a separate, and very much warranted, discussion. Our country sucks at "care", preferring instead to throw cash at it in ways that won't make a meaningful change (i.e.: treating the symptoms, rather than the causes).
You may have been looking at their home.
I'm sure I speak for everyone here when I say we totally believe you.
