Does BTN think Iowa State is joining the Big Ten?
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As you typically do, you avoid answering the original question and then go to deflection. Please share any facts that you have that show that ISU has a larger fan base, larger rating when on TV, larger endowment, higher ranked academically, more successful athletic program or hasn't been referred to as the opposite university on national TV.
See and this is the opposite side of the coin. ISU certainly has programs that are ranked higher than Iowa. Their engineering program is world renound. If you are an Iowan, this is a fact you should be proud of.
Wisconsin, Illinois, Notre Dame, and all Chicago pro sports move the needle way ahead of Iowa in the Chicago area. I am sure Northwestern moves the needle more than Iowa.
I don't answer your question because you made up what you are claiming I posted.
Eye - once again wrong. Of course pro sports do. But nope. ND and Iowa have the highest per capita grads in Chicago. Stop being stupid. Funny how you bitch about all the Chicago kids that go to Iowa and then wonder why Iowa grads move the needle there. You are worse than Twins pal.
He is twins!!!! They have the same posting style and use a lot of the same sayings
I will use facts to answer you, but I will make you look it up. Which school has increasing attendance in football, and which school has a decreasing attendance trend? Btw, basketball speaks for itself
Iowa in 2015 was 63,000 went up to 69,000 in 2016 and then drop to 66,000 in 2017.. that isn’t a decreasing trend it’s an up and down trend
Eye - so that means Iowa doesn't move the needle in Chicago? Ok. Good argument. So Minnesota does move the needle as they have the highest enrollment. Jesus you are more delusional than I thought. Look champ, you don't apply to ISU you enroll. Get into Iowa's business school and Top 25 law school and then call me buddy.
Sorry, I wasn't interested in a liberal arts school. I did apply and got accepted to Iowa many years back but chose wisely.
As someone who lives in Chicago, I can confirm you have no idea what you are talking about. As usual so carry on I guess.
Lol... my original question, which you didn't answer made no assumptions or claims about your point of view. It is how you do it and I probably won't stop pointing it out.
I didn't realize that according to US News and World Report that Iowa is ranked closer to ISU in Engineering than ISU is to Iowa in the overall category. I thought ISU would be ranked higher than 40th in engineering.
If you travel the country much you would see Iowa gear fairly often, but almost never see the mustard and ketchup of ISU. Kind of strange if ISU is so popular.
You mean like west branch, Mediapolis, Washington, and such? That would make sense.
No, I mean like San Francisco, Miami, Chicago, Denver and such. Maybe they never let you out of your room to see such places,
Get you clipboard out and go house to house. You will never convince me that Iowa is more popular in Chicago than Illinois, Wisconsin, ND, or Northwestern. There may be others as well, but being a small market team like Iowa does have its advantages. The hawks have SE IA locked up and pretty much rule Cedar Rapids.
Wow. You obviously don't live in Chicago or follow their media. It is pro sports, ND, Iowa and the rest in that order. Get a clue and stop being an idiot. It is so laughable that ISU fans rip Iowa for all the Chicago kids that go to Iowa and then claim Iowa doesn't have a monster base in Chicago. Eye - ISU moves the needle only in Story County when they play Iowa in anything or KU in basketball. Accept it loser. Hell in your whopping Liberty Bowl the announcers called you Hawks and said you were from Iowa City.
Sure it is. It was obvious from the beginning that you were a name caller when someone doesn't agree with you. There is no chance that you are a trial lawyer, so I am guessing that you went into another profession. I am sure that in your world, Iowa is the most popular team in New York and Philly as well. And if anybody doesn' know that than they should just ask you, right?
Having a 10+ win season is a pretty damn big what if. Considering have only had one season ever with 9 wins. Also I’m not a math major but how do you fit 70K in a 61500 seat stadium? Also isu didn’t avg 60k. Quick search showed it was just under or around 58k. If going to brag about attendance least get your numbers straight. I know you hate it when you are presented with actual facts.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Iowa_State_Cyclones_football_team
I am sure that is just a reporting error for the Iowa State Hawkeyes.... oooops, made the same mistake the national guys do.
e are 210 Designated Market Areas (DMAs) listed by the 2016-17 Nielsen ranks.
The B1G has more than enough large television markets to subsidize it's programs. Compare that to the Big 12 and tell me who has a more stable base.
Chicago, Philadelphia, Minneapolis, New York, Washington D.C, Cleveland, Indianapolis,Columbus, Detroit, Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Grand Rapids, Pittsburgh are all top 50 and are all in the B1G footprint.
Compare that to the Big12 and what they have in Houston, San Antonio, Austin and Oklahoma City.
- New York (#1)
- Los Angeles (#2)
- Chicago (#3)
- Philadelphia (#4)
- Dallas-Fort Worth (#5)
- San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose (#6)
- Washington, D.C. (Hagerstown) (#7)
- Houston (#8)
- Boston (Manchester) (#9)
- Atlanta (#10)
- Tampa-St. Petersburg (Sarasota) (#11)
- Phoenix (Prescott) (#12)
- Detroit (#13)
- Seattle-Tacoma (#14)
- Minneapolis-St. Paul (#15)
- Miami-Fort Lauderdale (#16)
- Denver (#17)
- Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne (#18)
- Cleveland-Akron (Canton) (#19)
- Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto (#20)
- St. Louis (#21)
- Charlotte (#22)
- Pittsburgh (#23)
- Raleigh-Durham (Fayetteville) (#24)
- Portland, OR (#25)
- Baltimore (#26)
- Indianapolis (#27)
- San Diego (#28)
- Nashville (#29)
- Hartford & New Haven (#30)
- San Antonio (#31)
- Columbus, OH (#32)
- Kansas City (#33)
- Salt Lake City (#34)
- Milwaukee (#35)
- Cincinnati (#36)
- Greenville-Spartanburg-Asheville-Anderson (#37)
- West Palm Beach-Fort Pierce (#38)
- Austin (#39)
- Las Vegas (#40)
- Oklahoma City (#41)
- Norfolk-Portsmouth-Newport News (#42)
- Harrisburg-Lancaster-Lebanon-York (#43)
- Grand Rapids-Kalamazoo-Battle Creek (#44)
- Birmingham (Anniston and Tuscaloosa) (#45)
- Greensboro-High Point-Winston-Salem (#46)
- Jacksonville (#47)
- Albuquerque-Santa Fe (#48)
- Louisville (#49)
- New Orleans (#50
The B1G has more than enough large television markets to subsidize it's programs. Compare that to the Big 12 and tell me who has a more stable base.
Chicago, Philadelphia, Minneapolis, New York, Washington D.C, Cleveland, Indianapolis,Columbus, Detroit, Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Grand Rapids, Pittsburgh are all top 50 and are all in the B1G footprint.
Compare that to the Big12 and what they have in Houston, San Antonio, Austin and Oklahoma City.
What I find interesting is many hawk fans claim that ISU is going to the MAC or MWC when current TV contracts come up for renewal. When talking about the hawks, the focus shifts to the large market areas of the B10. The problem is the hawks are not one of those big market teams. The hawks are most likely the smallest market team in the B10.......interesting as BTN subs decline.
Hmmm...I wonder which school would be hurt most if that were true? A school with a strong football performance track record and history of massive fan support in the form of home, away and bowl attendance that's in a conference with a history of sharing revenue equally or a school with a dismal football performance record and mediocre attendance/travel history that's in a conference with large market schools that have driven schools out of the conference due to uneven revenue sharing?
Iowa may be a small market school, but they have a much larger presence in the football landscape than ISU and they're in a conference with a much more cohesive atmosphere. If you're saying Iowa should be nervous, then ISU should be flat out terrified.
