Does BTN think Iowa State is joining the Big Ten?
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You're clueless. Northwestern averages less than 37K in a 47K stadium with 10 Million people less than a 2 hour drive. Illinois averages 45K in a 60K stadium with the Chicago metro no more than 2 hours away. Illinois and Northwestern barely move the needle for instate schools that should be dominant.
Notre Dame is the leader and IOWA has always had a strong presence in Chicago.
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Always been that way in Big Ten, meanwhile in the Big 12 you get led around on a leash by Texas!
Dude you couldn't get a full stadium against Kansas for homecoming right after the big Oklahoma win. A little rain kept the fair weathers at home that day!
Illinois and Northwestern are barely on the radar at all in Chicago. Wisconsin is but not on the scale of Iowa or Indiana. The top 3 fan college fan bases in town are Iowa, Indiana and ND. None touch the pro sports but that's the way it is in big cities.
Keep in mind, facts are like kryptonite to a guy like E. (perhaps a poor analogy as it infers a certain strength to begin with...though E is certainly a super hero in his own mind.) Denial and delusion are the foundation.
I am not referencing what happens to Iowa State if the Big 12 falls apart.
The B1G has been the strongest and oldest conference in American organized collegiate sport for a reason. Huge brands like Michigan and Ohio State don't demand their own networks. Northwestern and Purdue get just as much say as Penn State or Wisconsin. Nebraska and Maryland/Rutgers were taken into the league to expand the footprint, and proactively. I trust the B1G to adapt to a changing tide in how people watch games, they have proven to know what they are doing. They started the whole conference network wave over a decade ago when everybody told them to stick with cable.
The Big 12 has not shown themselves capable to me. They lost a founding member of the Big 8 in Nebraska because of Texas wanting to own the room. They lost Texas A&M and Missouri to the SEC, Colorado to the Pac 12. They replaced 4 schools with 2, had to get a waiver signed to get a CIG because they couldn't figure out how to add an additional 2 schools. They ran a horrible interview process and led on schools like Memphis/Cincinnati/Houston which cost those schools a ot of money, just to say nah.
In '14 their slogan "One True Champion" crowned two and cost both a shot at the innagural CFP.
Oklahoma has come out and spoke about the conference in a negative light.
The two replacement schools you got expanded your footprint into West Virginia, a school in a small populated State with no other Big 12 schools within nearly 1,000 miles of it.
Talk smack on Iowa all you want but they are part of the B1G, always will be, while ISU will never be a member, or even considered.
Enjoy those facts clown lover.
That’s real rich, facts coming from a poster and someone who rarely produces them and if so rarely accurate and something that has ended many of you idiotic claims. Such as still waiting for proof isu has stronger SOS over Iowa least every 5-6 years even Iowa has had stronger one last 2 years and 3 out of 5. Or in this thread false claim of isu avg 60k last year.
Stay classy coach from InSUlt University.
There is absolutely zero benefit of the big 10 adding ISU to it's fold. They don't increase the potential footprint of the league. Iowa is a sparsely populated state with little metropolitan growth potential. If the league were to expand I would wager it only happening in two conditions:
1.) The landscape of college athletics changes, meaning that the sub-division or group of non power five secedes and creates another league making it essential for the P5 to become the P4.
2.) A notable independent or major brand like Notre Dame or Oklahoma make an overture to the big 10. The independent route might tie into the first scenario as well.
The Big 10 is a very well run conference, Iowa is a minted member and valued member. Ohio State/Michigan will play ball with Iowa because it is in the best interest of the league. They will not try to force a power play like Texas does in the Big 12.
Iowa will never find itself out in the cold, unfortunately ISU is not protected under the big 10 roof and most likely will have to drop if the big 12 ever does implode. I don't see either of the two scenarios playing out .
Iowa fans will continually moan about playing Iowa State and wish them off the schedule, the administrators know the game is good for the state and will continue playing it. Iowa is the much larger brand nationally.
The TigerHawk is a pretty cool and recognizable symbol across the nation. I see this...
I know what it represents.
I see this....
I am not so certain. Indiana, Illinois?
This is not a knock on Iowa State either. I love your coach and it's direction, but Iowa is historically better and well known.
1.) The landscape of college athletics changes, meaning that the sub-division or group of non power five secedes and creates another league making it essential for the P5 to become the P4.
2.) A notable independent or major brand like Notre Dame or Oklahoma make an overture to the big 10. The independent route might tie into the first scenario as well.
The Big 10 is a very well run conference, Iowa is a minted member and valued member. Ohio State/Michigan will play ball with Iowa because it is in the best interest of the league. They will not try to force a power play like Texas does in the Big 12.
Iowa will never find itself out in the cold, unfortunately ISU is not protected under the big 10 roof and most likely will have to drop if the big 12 ever does implode. I don't see either of the two scenarios playing out .
Iowa fans will continually moan about playing Iowa State and wish them off the schedule, the administrators know the game is good for the state and will continue playing it. Iowa is the much larger brand nationally.
The TigerHawk is a pretty cool and recognizable symbol across the nation. I see this...
I see this....
This is not a knock on Iowa State either. I love your coach and it's direction, but Iowa is historically better and well known.
I see this.... [IMG said:
BTW, isn't it about time for another logo change?
Could also mean FCS powers Indiana St or Idaho St.There is absolutely zero benefit of the big 10 adding ISU to it's fold. They don't increase the potential footprint of the league. Iowa is a sparsely populated state with little metropolitan growth potential. If the league were to expand I would wager it only happening in two conditions:
1.) The landscape of college athletics changes, meaning that the sub-division or group of non power five secedes and creates another league making it essential for the P5 to become the P4.
2.) A notable independent or major brand like Notre Dame or Oklahoma make an overture to the big 10. The independent route might tie into the first scenario as well.
The Big 10 is a very well run conference, Iowa is a minted member and valued member. Ohio State/Michigan will play ball with Iowa because it is in the best interest of the league. They will not try to force a power play like Texas does in the Big 12.
Iowa will never find itself out in the cold, unfortunately ISU is not protected under the big 10 roof and most likely will have to drop if the big 12 ever does implode. I don't see either of the two scenarios playing out .
Iowa fans will continually moan about playing Iowa State and wish them off the schedule, the administrators know the game is good for the state and will continue playing it. Iowa is the much larger brand nationally.
The TigerHawk is a pretty cool and recognizable symbol across the nation. I see this...
I know what it represents.
I see this....
I am not so certain. Indiana, Illinois?
This is not a knock on Iowa State either. I love your coach and it's direction, but Iowa is historically better and well known.
Yeah because people never delete dumb tweets later on so when random people look at their feed they can’t see it anymore...
Unfortunately for this coach and others there are ways people can still read deleted texts.
Hah! Another classic clone move. I can already hear Randy Peterson typing feverishly to get an article out by tomorrow (AM) - with the exclusive story on how Jim Hofher's twitter account was hacked by Russian troll bots.
Exactly and wouldn’t put it past him. I bet half of isu fans have no clue who this @ss clown of an assistant even is.
I know who he is but I don't know much about him. Campbell would never support such reckless action,
Because it's an NCAA violation or the wrong thing to do? Have you ever tweeted at a recruit?
I don't tweet. I bet he didn't mean for it to go out that way but it is a boneheaded mistake for sure.
Can’t spell insult w/o ISU.
Classic clown move. Instead of congratulating the kid on getting an offer, tear him down. I’m sure kids will want to play for that coach.
Classic clown move. Instead of congratulating the kid on getting an offer, tear him down. I’m sure kids will want to play for that coach.
I can’t believe I’m about to give you a little credit for admitting that. I’m so down on myself.
I bet he meant to throw shade at the Hawkeyes, but made a mistake in how he presented it. A 60 year old man who should know better. He will pay a price for it.
Damn it! You’re earning respect in my book by being real/honest.
Now I have to back off for a while.
You’re pissing me off more than ever by being real! Ugh
Here is the deal, if he had said f#$k the hawks that would have been fine. He didn't think about what he put on social media and how it would be perceived about a 17 year old kid. It is not acceptable, and Campbell is of very high integrity. There is a real chance that Hofher's job is at risk. Those kind of mistakes don't fly with me and I have let the powers that be know my opinion.
Will you stop it?!?! I’m tapping out with you & giving you a lot of street cred before I jump on you again.
Stop being reasonable!!!
The guy who started a player that was higher then Mount Everest has integrity?? And didn’t mr integrity shoulder bump that same qb during the middle of the game..
