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Does Kirk Have An Issue With Black Coaches?

We did. My argument can certainly be viewed from another perspective and I understand that.

1- it's really hard to get wrs to come here when you are the 3rd or 4th option getting the ball... and that is if you are the #1 receiver. RBs and TEs will out touch you for sure.

2- QB play has been horrendous. I grew up always hearing if the ball hits you in the hands, you should catch it. While I still belive that to a good extent, wrs are trying to catch balls behind them, too high, in traffic, way too hard or not in a tight spiral (Deacon).

3- O line play has been horrendous. No time to get open on deep routes.

4- The offense and route trees are really bad. People know we look to one side of the field. People know we look through 2 or a max of 3 progressions. Also, back to point 1, you aren't getting the ball more than a handful of times a game... if lucky.

5- we have had good wrs: Jones, ISM, Smith, Johnson that were all pretty good. Two in the league, one really underutilized. The problem is they get into the system and leave. Recruiting is a huge problem. Brown is about as elite as we will ever get.
And he wasn't recruited. He was paid and he left OSU because he wasn't going to see the field there.
 
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How many programs have been sued by their former African American players for hostile/inequitable environment and settled out of court for millions? You can blame the players but KF needs to error on the other side of political correctness/equality.

THis hire of Budamyr is a disaster regardless of his color because he is part of the chitty offenses KF has been putting up the last 3 years.
Kirk didn't settle. The university did to make it go away. Funny how the players in question recanted in their depositions.
 
Lazy, and I would add entitled and arrogant.

The same qualities that led to Kirk after the 2021 season adding quarterback coach to his unqualified son’s list of duties which led to the disastrous play of Spencer Petras in 2022 and the shit show that was Deacon Hill in 2023.

I’m just amazed by the number of friends and family of the Ferentzes who come on this board daily to defend this shit. It’s remarkable.

But if all of this works out, and the offense averages 27 points a game in 2024, and if @pistachio1999 can arrange it, I will gladly eat crow and kneel down at the 50 yard line in Kinnick and kiss Kirk’s ass.
How about you just don't come back here instead?? You kissing KFs ass would be a disgrace to his ass.
 
We did. My argument can certainly be viewed from another perspective and I understand that.

1- it's really hard to get wrs to come here when you are the 3rd or 4th option getting the ball... and that is if you are the #1 receiver. RBs and TEs will out touch you for sure.

2- QB play has been horrendous. I grew up always hearing if the ball hits you in the hands, you should catch it. While I still belive that to a good extent, wrs are trying to catch balls behind them, too high, in traffic, way too hard or not in a tight spiral (Deacon).

3- O line play has been horrendous. No time to get open on deep routes.

4- The offense and route trees are really bad. People know we look to one side of the field. People know we look through 2 or a max of 3 progressions. Also, back to point 1, you aren't getting the ball more than a handful of times a game... if lucky.

5- we have had good wrs: Jones, ISM, Smith, Johnson that were all pretty good. Two in the league, one really underutilized. The problem is they get into the system and leave. Recruiting is a huge problem. Brown is about as elite as we will ever get.
I'd take another Matt Vandeberg. Dude was undersized coming in, but was fearless and could get open.
 
Just FYI - Marvin McNutt tweeted, then deleted, the following after the announcement was made:

"Maybe someday guys..."

He clearly wanted the job. He actually WENT TO IOWA. He actually played WR. He actually set records at Iowa. He actually coaches WRs. He didn't come in to Iowa as an unemployed QB guru who was fired by Colorado State only to oversee the worst QB play in Iowa history.

But then again...McNutt is black. Maybe too "flashy?" Maybe his route trees involve having athletic WRs stretch the field? Ol' Bud, in contrast, sports a double chin, a laundry list of coaching failures, and has no WR coach qualifications, gets gifted the job without Kirk even bothering to interview anyone else.

I get that the OC is just glad to have a job...but he's gotta be pissed that Kirk planted his guy in the OC's offense.
 
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Jason Manson is in house and has been working with the kids long prior to JB arriving here. He has a history of coaching and has east coast ties for recruiting. In my opinion, he would have been a far superior hire.

It begs the question, what is the avenue for advancement for minority coaches at Iowa?
 
How many programs have been sued by their former African American players for hostile/inequitable environment and settled out of court for millions? You can blame the players but KF needs to error on the other side of political correctness/equality.

THis hire of Budamyr is a disaster regardless of his color because he is part of the chitty offenses KF has been putting up the last 3 years.
I bet in many cases the schools just dont want to be dragged through the mud and all the negative PR. Are there some legit cases? sure. But it is such a hair trigger issue and no one wants to get put in that bucket (whether true or not).

Also, you mish-mash the terms equity and equality, which are quite different. Equity means everyone receives the same outcome. Equality means everyone should receive the same opportunity.
 
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Kirk's coaching tree over the past 25 years is as thin as the Charlie Brown Christmas tree. I'm not sure football has seen anything quite like it. Coaching is a big $ business and most coaches are ambitious guys wanting to reach the top.

While Hayden Fry's staff produced 8 - 10 head coaches, including some Hall of Famers, Kirk's staffs have produced a guy currently working at Culvers, several unemployed former coaches, and a series of "yes" men with no ambition to grow their careers.

Now take a look at the internal pecking order / chain of promotions within the program. Do the best coaches typically to move up? What goes into the decisions to promote?

In evaluating, consider Kirk's admitted "blind eye" toward the racial discrimination situation that rocked the program and led to the firing of his strength coach/best friend. Then consider how the investigation called Kirk out for virtually never appointing black players to the team's "leadership counsel." Did he believe black players were not leaders? With that as foundation, take a look at Kirk's coaching personnel decisions over the years (i.e. who he's promoted and who he's kept on staff despite their failures). It makes you wonder whether black coaches at Iowa are given the same opportunity for advancement as the white coaches.

Take the career paths of Brian Ferentz, Seth Wallace, and LeVar Woods as an example:

Woods. 2008 - retired from the NFL. Immediately came back to work at Iowa. Put in 4 years. In 2012, was elevated to position coach, where he excelled. He's now been in the program 16 years but has yet to receive a promotion. He remains a low level position coach despite coaching some of the best special teams units Iowa has ever had.

Wallace. 2014 - after working at a DIII school in Georgia for a few years while somehow developing no recruiting pipeline there, he was hired as a position coach at Iowa. Just 3 years later, Kirk named him assistant defensive coordinator. He was then named in a racial discrimination lawsuit. In 2023, he was once again promoted to some fake title like assistant head coach, and is now paid DOUBLE what Woods is paid despite not even being a coordinator.

Ferentz. 2012 - came to Iowa at the same time Woods became special teams coach. Because Kirk didn't have a spot for him, Kirk chose to toss aside Iowa's legendary OL coach Reece Morgan (and forced him to switch to DLine coach) to make room for inexperienced Brian. With Brian at the helm, the OL immediately saw a drop off. It was about then that Iowa lost its "bullies of the Big 10" status and its run game suffered. Three years later, Kirk promoted Brian to "running game coordinator," a fake title never used before to help justify a future promotion to OC. The run game under Brian was below average for a Big 10 team. Despite that, just one year after being promoted to run game coordinator, Brian was promotion again to offensive coordinator. He received a doubling of his salary despite having never called a play in his life and Kirk not interviewing another soul for the position. Brian was then named in a racial discrimination lawsuit where clear evidence of wrongdoing was presented. Instead of being fired, Brian was rewarded the following year with his 4th promotion, this time taking on QBs coach duties...a position he admitted he knew nothing about.

One of the above is black. The other two are white. Would it be fair to say the white coaches quickly received promotions while the black coach did not? If so, can you reasonably argue that merit was the basis for the coaching decisions?

Removing Brian from the equation, let's now look at Iowa's worst performing coaches over the past 5 years. WR coach, OL coach, and "QB guru/analyst." Correct? I don't think anyone would argue otherwise. One of the 3 is black, the other two are white. How were they treated? The black got unceremoniously fired. The other two failed coaches have been routinely lavished with praise by Kirk. While firing the WR coach was warranted, it leads the question...how do you fire the WR coach but keep the underperforming OL coach (who had far more talent and experience to work with yet was clearly the weak link on staff)? More perplexing, how do you not only keep, but promote & double the salary of the "QB guru" who was oversaw Petras' senior year and Deacon Hill? Kirk promoted him to WR coach despite never coaching the position or having any track record of improving position group performance.

Iowa already had the whitest, small-town coaching staff in the Power 5. Check out the makeup of the other coaching staffs in the Big 10 and you'll see. Blame it on demographics, fine. Yet when Iowa's OC position opened up this fall, Kirk didn't bother to interview a black candidate. When the WR coach position opened up (a position where 95% of the players are black), not a single black coach was interviewed. Maybe that's a coincidence? Maybe Kirk has never had a black coordinator in his coaching career?

By using the offseason to: (i) replace two outgoing coaches with white guys; (ii) limiting internal promotions to white guys only; and (iii) keeping the underperforming white coaches on staff while firing the black one, is Kirk showing his true colors?
 
He has to be a racist. Only has Bell, Betts, Woods, and Hodge on staff as position coaches. JFC. You are pathetic OP. You need to be banned with this pathetic post.
4 out of 10 is pretty close to the national average for assistants according to Google. Plus he has Braithwaite as the strength coach.
 
So What? What cha gonna do about it? I suggest you buy a season ticket for women's field hockey and shut your pie hole about football.
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Lazy, and I would add entitled and arrogant.

The same qualities that led to Kirk after the 2021 season adding quarterback coach to his unqualified son’s list of duties which led to the disastrous play of Spencer Petras in 2022 and the shit show that was Deacon Hill in 2023.

I’m just amazed by the number of friends and family of the Ferentzes who come on this board daily to defend this shit. It’s remarkable.

But if all of this works out, and the offense averages 27 points a game in 2024, and if @pistachio1999 can arrange it, I will gladly eat crow and kneel down at the 50 yard line in Kinnick and kiss Kirk’s ass.
If the offense avgs 25-27 pts a game you probaby should be kissing Lester's ass and leaving Kirk alone. In that future scenario Lester is the main variable change.

We shall see. I am at least positive and somewhat excited to watch the offense this coming year even if it just to make more first downs, have less negative runs and incompletions, even if they only score 17-20 a game. I mean just watching the offense half the time move the ball will be great.

I thought 2021 was going to be a great year because you could see how great the defense was shutting down teams in 2020, and I dont give a shit if it was a covid year cuz all the teams had rosters. And in 2020 it looked like Petras made good strides during the season. The record was great in 2021 but the offense was starting the downhill spiral
 
Kirk's coaching tree over the past 25 years is as thin as the Charlie Brown Christmas tree. I'm not sure football has seen anything quite like it. Coaching is a big $ business and most coaches are ambitious guys wanting to reach the top.

While Hayden Fry's staff produced 8 - 10 head coaches, including some Hall of Famers, Kirk's staffs have produced a guy currently working at Culvers, several unemployed former coaches, and a series of "yes" men with no ambition to grow their careers.

Now take a look at the internal pecking order / chain of promotions within the program. Do the best coaches typically to move up? What goes into the decisions to promote?

In evaluating, consider Kirk's admitted "blind eye" toward the racial discrimination situation that rocked the program and led to the firing of his strength coach/best friend. Then consider how the investigation called Kirk out for virtually never appointing black players to the team's "leadership counsel." Did he believe black players were not leaders? With that as foundation, take a look at Kirk's coaching personnel decisions over the years (i.e. who he's promoted and who he's kept on staff despite their failures). It makes you wonder whether black coaches at Iowa are given the same opportunity for advancement as the white coaches.

Take the career paths of Brian Ferentz, Seth Wallace, and LeVar Woods as an example:

Woods. 2008 - retired from the NFL. Immediately came back to work at Iowa. Put in 4 years. In 2012, was elevated to position coach, where he excelled. He's now been in the program 16 years but has yet to receive a promotion. He remains a low level position coach despite coaching some of the best special teams units Iowa has ever had.

Wallace. 2014 - after working at a DIII school in Georgia for a few years while somehow developing no recruiting pipeline there, he was hired as a position coach at Iowa. Just 3 years later, Kirk named him assistant defensive coordinator. He was then named in a racial discrimination lawsuit. In 2023, he was once again promoted to some fake title like assistant head coach, and is now paid DOUBLE what Woods is paid despite not even being a coordinator.

Ferentz. 2012 - came to Iowa at the same time Woods became special teams coach. Because Kirk didn't have a spot for him, Kirk chose to toss aside Iowa's legendary OL coach Reece Morgan (and forced him to switch to DLine coach) to make room for inexperienced Brian. With Brian at the helm, the OL immediately saw a drop off. It was about then that Iowa lost its "bullies of the Big 10" status and its run game suffered. Three years later, Kirk promoted Brian to "running game coordinator," a fake title never used before to help justify a future promotion to OC. The run game under Brian was below average for a Big 10 team. Despite that, just one year after being promoted to run game coordinator, Brian was promotion again to offensive coordinator. He received a doubling of his salary despite having never called a play in his life and Kirk not interviewing another soul for the position. Brian was then named in a racial discrimination lawsuit where clear evidence of wrongdoing was presented. Instead of being fired, Brian was rewarded the following year with his 4th promotion, this time taking on QBs coach duties...a position he admitted he knew nothing about.

One of the above is black. The other two are white. Would it be fair to say the white coaches quickly received promotions while the black coach did not? If so, can you reasonably argue that merit was the basis for the coaching decisions?

Removing Brian from the equation, let's now look at Iowa's worst performing coaches over the past 5 years. WR coach, OL coach, and "QB guru/analyst." Correct? I don't think anyone would argue otherwise. One of the 3 is black, the other two are white. How were they treated? The black got unceremoniously fired. The other two failed coaches have been routinely lavished with praise by Kirk. While firing the WR coach was warranted, it leads the question...how do you fire the WR coach but keep the underperforming OL coach (who had far more talent and experience to work with yet was clearly the weak link on staff)? More perplexing, how do you not only keep, but promote & double the salary of the "QB guru" who was oversaw Petras' senior year and Deacon Hill? Kirk promoted him to WR coach despite never coaching the position or having any track record of improving position group performance.

Iowa already had the whitest, small-town coaching staff in the Power 5. Check out the makeup of the other coaching staffs in the Big 10 and you'll see. Blame it on demographics, fine. Yet when Iowa's OC position opened up this fall, Kirk didn't bother to interview a black candidate. When the WR coach position opened up (a position where 95% of the players are black), not a single black coach was interviewed. Maybe that's a coincidence? Maybe Kirk has never had a black coordinator in his coaching career?

By using the offseason to: (i) replace two outgoing coaches with white guys; (ii) limiting internal promotions to white guys only; and (iii) keeping the underperforming white coaches on staff while firing the black one, is Kirk showing his true colors?
Everyone knows that you are a envious clone troll , but you are sinking to a new low using your sick insinuations of racism to attack Kirk. Shame on you.
 
Just FYI - Marvin McNutt tweeted, then deleted, the following after the announcement was made:

"Maybe someday guys..."

He clearly wanted the job. He actually WENT TO IOWA. He actually played WR. He actually set records at Iowa. He actually coaches WRs. He didn't come in to Iowa as an unemployed QB guru who was fired by Colorado State only to oversee the worst QB play in Iowa history.

But then again...McNutt is black. Maybe too "flashy?" Maybe his route trees involve having athletic WRs stretch the field? Ol' Bud, in contrast, sports a double chin, a laundry list of coaching failures, and has no WR coach qualifications, gets gifted the job without Kirk even bothering to interview anyone else.

I get that the OC is just glad to have a job...but he's gotta be pissed that Kirk planted his guy in the OC's offense.
It sure feels like you and others get off on this, fetish? Free board, free speech, just sayin.
 
Just FYI - Marvin McNutt tweeted, then deleted, the following after the announcement was made:

"Maybe someday guys..."

He clearly wanted the job. He actually WENT TO IOWA. He actually played WR. He actually set records at Iowa. He actually coaches WRs. He didn't come in to Iowa as an unemployed QB guru who was fired by Colorado State only to oversee the worst QB play in Iowa history.

But then again...McNutt is black. Maybe too "flashy?" Maybe his route trees involve having athletic WRs stretch the field? Ol' Bud, in contrast, sports a double chin, a laundry list of coaching failures, and has no WR coach qualifications, gets gifted the job without Kirk even bothering to interview anyone else.

I get that the OC is just glad to have a job...but he's gotta be pissed that Kirk planted his guy in the OC's offense.
Marvin hasn't coached above the DIII level and didn't even coach this past fall.

Maybe if you're gonna troll poorly you could pick arguments that aren't easily dismantled with a google search.
 
Kirk's coaching tree over the past 25 years is as thin as the Charlie Brown Christmas tree. I'm not sure football has seen anything quite like it. Coaching is a big $ business and most coaches are ambitious guys wanting to reach the top.

While Hayden Fry's staff produced 8 - 10 head coaches, including some Hall of Famers, Kirk's staffs have produced a guy currently working at Culvers, several unemployed former coaches, and a series of "yes" men with no ambition to grow their careers.

Now take a look at the internal pecking order / chain of promotions within the program. Do the best coaches typically to move up? What goes into the decisions to promote?

In evaluating, consider Kirk's admitted "blind eye" toward the racial discrimination situation that rocked the program and led to the firing of his strength coach/best friend. Then consider how the investigation called Kirk out for virtually never appointing black players to the team's "leadership counsel." Did he believe black players were not leaders? With that as foundation, take a look at Kirk's coaching personnel decisions over the years (i.e. who he's promoted and who he's kept on staff despite their failures). It makes you wonder whether black coaches at Iowa are given the same opportunity for advancement as the white coaches.

Take the career paths of Brian Ferentz, Seth Wallace, and LeVar Woods as an example:

Woods. 2008 - retired from the NFL. Immediately came back to work at Iowa. Put in 4 years. In 2012, was elevated to position coach, where he excelled. He's now been in the program 16 years but has yet to receive a promotion. He remains a low level position coach despite coaching some of the best special teams units Iowa has ever had.

Wallace. 2014 - after working at a DIII school in Georgia for a few years while somehow developing no recruiting pipeline there, he was hired as a position coach at Iowa. Just 3 years later, Kirk named him assistant defensive coordinator. He was then named in a racial discrimination lawsuit. In 2023, he was once again promoted to some fake title like assistant head coach, and is now paid DOUBLE what Woods is paid despite not even being a coordinator.

Ferentz. 2012 - came to Iowa at the same time Woods became special teams coach. Because Kirk didn't have a spot for him, Kirk chose to toss aside Iowa's legendary OL coach Reece Morgan (and forced him to switch to DLine coach) to make room for inexperienced Brian. With Brian at the helm, the OL immediately saw a drop off. It was about then that Iowa lost its "bullies of the Big 10" status and its run game suffered. Three years later, Kirk promoted Brian to "running game coordinator," a fake title never used before to help justify a future promotion to OC. The run game under Brian was below average for a Big 10 team. Despite that, just one year after being promoted to run game coordinator, Brian was promotion again to offensive coordinator. He received a doubling of his salary despite having never called a play in his life and Kirk not interviewing another soul for the position. Brian was then named in a racial discrimination lawsuit where clear evidence of wrongdoing was presented. Instead of being fired, Brian was rewarded the following year with his 4th promotion, this time taking on QBs coach duties...a position he admitted he knew nothing about.

One of the above is black. The other two are white. Would it be fair to say the white coaches quickly received promotions while the black coach did not? If so, can you reasonably argue that merit was the basis for the coaching decisions?

Removing Brian from the equation, let's now look at Iowa's worst performing coaches over the past 5 years. WR coach, OL coach, and "QB guru/analyst." Correct? I don't think anyone would argue otherwise. One of the 3 is black, the other two are white. How were they treated? The black got unceremoniously fired. The other two failed coaches have been routinely lavished with praise by Kirk. While firing the WR coach was warranted, it leads the question...how do you fire the WR coach but keep the underperforming OL coach (who had far more talent and experience to work with yet was clearly the weak link on staff)? More perplexing, how do you not only keep, but promote & double the salary of the "QB guru" who was oversaw Petras' senior year and Deacon Hill? Kirk promoted him to WR coach despite never coaching the position or having any track record of improving position group performance.

Iowa already had the whitest, small-town coaching staff in the Power 5. Check out the makeup of the other coaching staffs in the Big 10 and you'll see. Blame it on demographics, fine. Yet when Iowa's OC position opened up this fall, Kirk didn't bother to interview a black candidate. When the WR coach position opened up (a position where 95% of the players are black), not a single black coach was interviewed. Maybe that's a coincidence? Maybe Kirk has never had a black coordinator in his coaching career?

By using the offseason to: (i) replace two outgoing coaches with white guys; (ii) limiting internal promotions to white guys only; and (iii) keeping the underperforming white coaches on staff while firing the black one, is Kirk showing his true colors?
You are a piece of work.
 
Lazy, and I would add entitled and arrogant.

The same qualities that led to Kirk after the 2021 season adding quarterback coach to his unqualified son’s list of duties which led to the disastrous play of Spencer Petras in 2022 and the shit show that was Deacon Hill in 2023.

I’m just amazed by the number of friends and family of the Ferentzes who come on this board daily to defend this shit. It’s remarkable.

But if all of this works out, and the offense averages 27 points a game in 2024, and if @pistachio1999 can arrange it, I will gladly eat crow and kneel down at the 50 yard line in Kinnick and kiss Kirk’s ass.
We don't know that Brian was unqualified to coach the QB's. Coaches bounce around to different position groups all the time.

To imply that he was given the role because he is KF's son is lazy and narrow minded.

Kirk made Brian the QB coach strictly for football reasons. He was trying to streamline pre-snap talk and make it more efficient, as KOK was trying to get too involved as QB coach. Notice Lester will also carry both roles
 
We don't know that Brian was unqualified to coach the QB's. Coaches bounce around to different position groups all the time.

To imply that he was given the role because he is KF's son is lazy and narrow minded.

Kirk made Brian the QB coach strictly for football reasons. He was trying to streamline pre-snap talk and make it more efficient, as KOK was trying to get too involved as QB coach. Notice Lester will also carry both roles
JFC.

Are you related to the Ferentzes?
 
Has the Captain ever hired a female? Pig, lol.
You laugh but Michigan has a female GA. She works with our QBs and is one of the coaches that runs scout team during the week. You might have noticed her warming up the QBs pregame or on the sidelines signaling plays. She's also a good athlete in her own right as she was the leading scorer for Georgtown Woman's Basketball before graduating and getting her first football coaching job there so she now has experience at two levels.

She has ties to both Fla and the DMV for recruiting and ties to the NFL. If KIrk hired her he could kill two birds with one stone as she's also black.
 
Let's get Goetz to straighten this out. She is an expert at college football.
You laugh but Michigan has a female GA. She works with our QBs and is one of the coaches that runs scout team during the week. You might have noticed her warming up the QBs pregame or on the sidelines signaling plays. She's also a good athlete in her own right as she was the leading scorer for Georgtown Woman's Basketball before graduating and getting her first football coaching job there so she now has experience at two levels.

She has ties to both Fla and the DMV for recruiting and ties to the NFL. If KIrk hired her he could kill two birds with one stone as she's also black.
You laugh but Michigan has a female GA. She works with our QBs and is one of the coaches that runs scout team during the week. You might have noticed her warming up the QBs pregame or on the sidelines signaling plays. She's also a good athlete in her own right as she was the leading scorer for Georgtown Woman's Basketball before graduating and getting her first football coaching job there so she now has experience at two levels.

She has ties to both Fla and the DMV for recruiting and ties to the NFL. If KIrk hired her he could kill two birds with one stone as she's also black.
Cool bro, may not be enough check boxes for some.
 
His real issue is with Hispanic, Asian, Native American, and Middle Eastern coaches. An in depth data analysis will show that he's never hired one of the above.
I myself am 25% Victim and applied on LinkedIn and never got a call.... There may be some smoke to IowasLaw's fire
 
I myself am 25% Victim and applied on LinkedIn and never got a call.... There may be some smoke to IowasLaw's fire
We are all victims. Without a recent NCAA Football release by EA Sports, how are we supposed to build our resumes and demonstrate our abilities to compete in the modern era?
 
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