She won the big ten regular season championship in year 7, big tourney championships year two. It’s year 14 for Fran, tell me how many years will it take to win the conference or make a deep ncaa run.
Early Big Ten men's BB projections
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She won the big ten regular season championship in year 7, big tourney championships year two. It’s year 14 for Fran, tell me how many years will it take to win the conference or make a deep ncaa run.
Krikke is 6'9 and led his team in scoring, rebounding and blocked shots
Keagon 6'9, Kris 6'8 and Rebraca 6'9 all didn't avg 10 rebounds per game, so why expect Krikke to be ths monster rebounder?
even White at 6'9 who led Iowa in rebouding all four years he was here.5.7 rpg as a FR, 6.2 RPG as a SO, 6.7 RPG as a JR and 7.3 as a SR. so you see he will not need to be needed to be that major/monster rebounder.
Keagon 6'9, Kris 6'8 and Rebraca 6'9 all didn't avg 10 rebounds per game, so why expect Krikke to be ths monster rebounder?
even White at 6'9 who led Iowa in rebouding all four years he was here.5.7 rpg as a FR, 6.2 RPG as a SO, 6.7 RPG as a JR and 7.3 as a SR. so you see he will not need to be needed to be that major/monster rebounder.
the great Raveling never came close even with Ravelings recruits Dr. Tom ever came close.
it was hard enough and now that there are 14 teams playing 20 game conference games each year. now that teams can now buy players it is only going to get harder.
the LSU coach had 9 players from the portal even the 2 that hurt Iowa the most were transfers from Maryland.
Are their any other power 5 schools that have a coach that’s been there 14 years with similar to Fran results? I don’t know.
Buh, buh Connoh and Patwick. The results don’t matter to all the genius Uncle Rico’s on this board.
John Wooden was in his 14th year when he won his first NCAA game-and title-with only 3 prior appearances. However, I think we know what we are getting. A high scoring and exciting up-tempo game, some wild swings in games and seasons, not much D. Usually in the NCAA and win a game occasionally.
Hardly ideal but sufficiently well to avoid the risk of failure, which is the overwhelming majority result of coaching changes. The grass is rarely greener when you're already winning.
Hardly ideal but sufficiently well to avoid the risk of failure, which is the overwhelming majority result of coaching changes. The grass is rarely greener when you're already winning.
Substantially easier to say when you face no personal risk. Gambling a known and valuable commodity, Iowa's current level of basketball success, against the long odds of meaningful improvement and the high probability of failure is not the time a prudent chap makes a change.
Fran is the only coach at Iowa to lose three consecutive NCAA tournament games as the higher seed. (Yes I know one was 8-9)
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Good philosophy for long term stock investing, not so much if you want to win the big 10 or a national title. Declining fan interest and the fans voting with their wallets will prevail.
The athletic department doesn’t have expectations even close to this.
We give our coaches so many years because simply being competitive is highly respected.
A good number of programs REALLY desire to win their conference. A couple handfuls hope to win a national championship. Iowa wants to be competitive.
It’s somewhat funny isn’t it? All we desire to have on the football field is an AVERAGE offense. Lol. Both funny and sad. It shouldn’t be this way year after year, after year.
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to bad that Iowa has only to the FF 3 times in the history of the NCAA Tourney
1955/1956 under Bucky O'Connor and 1980 under Lute, and here we are having posters demanding FF's on a regular basis.
Iowa has only been to 8 elite 8's and 8 sweet 16's in their history. to think a long time ago teams only had to win one game to reach the sweet 16. now they have to win 2 unless they are in a play in game, then it will take 3 wins.
its only going to get harder if they expand the field again.
1955/1956 under Bucky O'Connor and 1980 under Lute, and here we are having posters demanding FF's on a regular basis.
Iowa has only been to 8 elite 8's and 8 sweet 16's in their history. to think a long time ago teams only had to win one game to reach the sweet 16. now they have to win 2 unless they are in a play in game, then it will take 3 wins.
its only going to get harder if they expand the field again.
Dr Tom’s last year was a sweet 16 run, not sure how they’ve made 8 elite eights and 8 sweet sixteens. Is this how they finished?
F*****g copy and paste the post of just ONE person with expectations of consistent final fours or, in your words, FFs on a regular basis.
Considering the fact that Iowa is one of the worst jobs in all of high major CBB why should the expectations be any different?
What makes it one of the worst? Was there a survey completed or a study showing this to actually be true?
Back that statement up with something real, my friend.
-Football school
-Geography
-One of the worst recruiting bases in the country
-Worst arena in the conference
-Bad fan support
-Mediocre NIL at best for basketball
-Not much tradition
-No history of NBA players
-Low budget
-Meh facilities
There's literally not 1 aspect of the job that is a positive.
Fan support is a reflection of the product, see women’s basketball
As I said, much easier to do when you aren't personally affected. By the way, how did our last move to go from good to better? It's 25 years later and we still haven't recovered from that cluster****ery.
For your own sake, don't ever gamble. I've seen a lot of guys go broke who think like you; no risk no reward.
And how many other power 5 schools have allowed a coach 13 years with minimal results?
So Iowa made a bad hire with lick, so we should never take another chance? Got it. You can settle, I don’t want to
As much as I like this years incoming freshmen, I have next March's NCAA tournament marked on my calendar, If Iowa make the tournament, no matter what seed, most of my money will be on whomever Iowa plays against. Daddy wants a new car.....maybe new golf clubs to go along with it.
They've had 5 straight NCAA Tournament teams. It's nearly impossible to do better than that at Iowa.
We were a bucket away from a sweet 16. Not that unfathomable it will happen again.
I get a kick out of people who aren't familiar with Herby experiencing this for the first time.
Id say very good pay with expectations far below that of most other schools in the conference is a positive for a prospective coach.
3rd longest tenured and 11th highest paid coach (without NW reporting) out of 13 in the B1G. I’d hardly call that very good by his peers. Penn State’s new coach makes more than Fran by a half mil.
Or perhaps because those decision makers realize the enormous obstacles to success of any kind at Iowa. There are factors that they must consider that a chat board poster can waive off with a touch of magic thinking.
Iowa is competitive in every major sport. Nearly always winning seasons, in general and in conference. MBB has qualified for the NCAA in 8 of the last 10 years-way above the cut line for the 2020 had that tournament been played. Bowl games for ten consecutive seasons. Division titles, BTT tournament title. No major program is failing or playing losing ball.
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We usually lead the league in scoring and none of you moan about the other team’s ability to play defense against us.
That's a nonsense statement.
You act like leading the league in scoring is resulting in winning the league when its not even close.
If Fran can win the league and a couple ncaa games while playing shity defense then people will stop complaining.
But when you lose to shit teams like Wisconsin and Nebraska twice because you can't stop them from scoring the criticism is earned.
The only thing Reese did in the game was run her mouth and point at her finger......
Your kidding right? You sound like your talking about NW, and not Iowa......
Exactly. Frankly, if Reese had NOT gone to the bench with early foul trouble, its likely Iowa stays in that game. Carson ( If I remember correctly) had not scored a SINGLE point in the last several games, and she comes in and drops 6 three's in the first, (one falling off balance off the glass). Its crazy, but we'd have been better off if Queen Angel had stayed on the floor. The lineup change definetly changed Iowa's game plan once Carson went fuego.....
to think Reese and Carson both came from Maryland thru the portal. there were 9 transfers from the portal. a team that was bought and paid for.
