Or..... there was something deeply wrong with that individual.
We do, but I can’t see a couple hours a week with a counselor tipping the scales from 24/7/365 cell phone use.
DA HITMAN COMIN THROUGH WITH A BLOW TO DA BERNIE SANDERS. GIVE US ONE FOR DA SQUAD!!!!
As a society, if we are ever going to decrease the frequency of such actions, we are going to have to learn empathy toward the perpetrators to find out what is breaking in their brains and working on solutions to fix that.
Unless they find out he had same major mental illness going on that something was telling him to shoot up the place. This is the correct answer. Even if he was bullied, how do you go and shoot a 6th grade girl. I highly doubt she was causing him any pain.
Maybe his parents should have opened their fvcking eyes and got him the help he needed.
We now consider his mental health problems normal behavior so if the parents had attempted to get him help they might have been arrested.
He is a homophobic asshole. No explanation necessary.
40 years later, still paying the price for Ronald Reagan's very worst idea.
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In Iowa, that was a Terry Branstad, Governor decision as he felt Iowa could no longer afford to keep the criminally insane locked up....but at least we have been able to cut income taxes back and save those who make money more money...I’m sure the Farm Bureau is working on the mental health problem as we type.
I agree but it is easy to hindsight it. Now that we know, we should change it.40 years later, still paying the price for Ronald Reagan's very worst idea.
Ronald Reagan's shameful legacy: Violence, the homeless, mental illness
As president and governor of California, the GOP icon led the worst policies on mental illness in generations
I think the more and more problems we have as a society, the more bi-party support you are going to get. Don't confuse niceness/kindness with love.
Hey.understand why mental health in Iowa has taken a hit....it has a lot to do with Republicans, named Branstad and Reynolds. And unfortunately, I disagree that bipartisanship will solve these issues....Iowa Republicans don’t give a shit what Dems feel important and right now they have the numbers to ram their agenda down the throats of all Iowans.
He killed a 6th grader. Wtf is wrong with you?
Your last sentence is why we can’t have nice things on the mental health front. Mental health isn’t like getting the flu or breaking your leg. It doesn’t suddenly come on, get treatment and go away. There’s also a massive spectrum of issues and I’m a big believer that if we can normalize mental health care, we’ll help people earlier and prevent some of the bigger issues later (suicide, lashing out, etc). I’ve been seeing a therapist for 6 months and it’s helping a lot. I wasn’t suicidal, I wasn’t about to break down and harm people….but I wasn’t going in a good direction mentally and hadn’t been for a long time.
This is where the empathy for the shooter comes in. It’s not “oh, poor guy, he has issues, so this was ok”. Shooting up his school was not ok. Killing a 6th grader was not ok. Sympathy/empathy isn’t about what happened during/after the shooting, it’s sympathy/empathy for understanding that this was a 17 year old who was mentally/emotionally broken already. I’m sad that this kid didn’t get the help he needed to keep him from getting to where he was yesterday.
FIFY, just needed an additional word added. It's key though, because this stuff doesn't happen in other societies near as much as it does here. And I don't think that can just be glossed over when discussing the issue.
Jfc, are you serious? If he'd have just offered himself, absolutely. But he killed a 12 year old kid, wounded a half dozen others and probably mentally damaged another 5 dozen more for decades to come. I don't feel bad for someone who possesses the evil to do this, no matter the reason you might try to justify ot with.
**** anyone who does this or thinks like you. How sick in the head are you to have empathy for that POS whacko coward?
“Feeling bad for” and “empathy” are not the same thing.
He likely wasn’t born as a “POS whacko coward”. While predicting something as extreme as this is really hard as millions of kids get treated poorly/bullied to varying extents and maybe tens wind up resorting to significant violence, I’d be pretty surprised if there were no signs at all that this kid was struggling with mental health. Nobody goes from fine to shooting up a school because they had a bad day. This kid has likely needed help for years. That’s where the empathy comes in - I’m sad that he didn’t get what he needed at 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 so that he wouldn’t have been in the position he was in yesterday.
Type as much and as long as you want. As I said screw anyone who kills an innocent 6th grade girl. You really look like a dumbass trying to make a murderer be the victim. Everyone has been bullied at some point and has problems in their life, only a very very small fraction kill innocent people because of it. "Dylan" is burning.
Only thing that makes me think that wasn't random, is that there have been reports the 6th grader was shot 2x in the head. Odd if it were random shooting at whatever kids he happened upon.
We can say “screw that guy” and forget the whole thing or we can try to figure out how we can do better so maybe we can stop the next school shooting. It’s not about this kid being a victim, it’s about acknowledging that this kid was broken years ago and never got the help he needed to take a different course.
I never said forget the whole thing. I agree with you in the fact that signs had to be missed. I obviously ultimately blame the killer. What about the family?... Friends?... Teachers? Who else shares responsibility in this tragedy? It's a sad world we live in, when this type of event becomes almost normalized and I think all of society gets some part of blame. The fact is though this coward premeditated this heinous crime and went through with it, that person is 100% responsible.
My main point is that I have empathy for broken kids who have been failed by the adults around them. That doesn’t mean I don’t blame them for the act or that they shouldn’t bear full responsibility for their actions, but I will probably always have empathy for emotionally broken kids.
I thought there were only a few kids there, as it was before school starts. I thought something about a few kids that came early for breakfast, plus the staff. Unlucky kids who showed up early for something to eat...
Yeah, it's only recently that these monsters are being created.
Still butthurt over the school vouchers I see.
