Equality
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I dvr my tv and fast forward through commercials so i have no opinion other than dvr's are awesome.
Because ever since there were commercials it has been a hetero white couple buying the orange juice or house paint or new car. A kid in a wheelchair in a Target ad may seem like some woke BS to you but do you have any idea what it means to other kids in wheelchairs?
So we shouldn't have the national anthem before games then, right?I'm not interested in the political debates. As someone else said, keep politics, religion, etc. out of sports. I watch sports for the competitive nature of it, not for the social commentary.
That said, I'm all for equality and don't mind having the word on the back of the jersey. Wouldn't bother me if it wasn't there, either. So I have no problem here.
As for the jersey, it should be simple gold and black. No need to complicate it. Less is more. What's wrong with this?
Im gona guess not much.
No ones life is any different based on what actors that compaines put in commercials other than the actors themselves.
The only reason they do anything is based on what they think will make them the most money.
Since the vast majority of people don't give a shit either way they figure they may as well pander to the small percentage of upperclass young white people that do care about it.
Good question. I’m thinking something simple, near the front of the color. Let
players choose the phrase they want used, from options like “equality,” to “equity,” to
“justice,” to “freedom,” to “ANF,” to “team.”
You see some NFL teams do this with the front of their helmets. Looks classy, yet individualized.
Questions.
1. Do you think the message of equality before the law and the sovereign authority, about which I think we agree, is intended to be the meaning expressed on the jerseys/helmets?
2. How does a sovereign authority provide "equality of opportunity" without creating burdens on some group of persons and providing benefits to others, which is the precise opposite of actual equality.
3. How does actual equality before the law and sovereign authority exist within a governing paradigm that allows the sovereign authority to allocate rights, goods and services based on the accidental and immutable characteristics of birth?
4. Re: 1 above, why would college students not understand the difference between woke "equality", that requires sovereign enforcement of designed inequality and actual equality. For our discussion we can ignore people that are simply insufficiently intelligent to understand any part of the competing concepts.
Interested in your thoughts.
2. How does a sovereign authority provide "equality of opportunity" without creating burdens on some group of persons and providing benefits to others, which is the precise opposite of actual equality.
3. How does actual equality before the law and sovereign authority exist within a governing paradigm that allows the sovereign authority to allocate rights, goods and services based on the accidental and immutable characteristics of birth?
4. Re: 1 above, why would college students not understand the difference between woke "equality", that requires sovereign enforcement of designed inequality and actual equality. For our discussion we can ignore people that are simply insufficiently intelligent to understand any part of the competing concepts.
Interested in your thoughts.
Sorry to have been unclear. **** yeah. Good PR 37 years ago when the Soviets were practically giving their ag products and collapsing the world market while high interest rates bled 15 years of inflation out of the American economy, which was catastrophic for small farmers. An aside, that's why you keep inflation under control, it's like cancer. The cure is almost as destructive as the disease.
But that was then, and this is now. We are a major liberal arts school. Iowa A&T is the farm school. No need for the clutter.
Do you have this on your clipboard and simply cut and paste it all over the forums?
It's a dog whistle to be sure.
I'm surprised the decision makers haven't changed it to "Equity" given their inability to compete at a high level. Maybe give Iowa Basketball a few more wins before the Big Ten season starts every year to ensure an equitable outcome.
Ha, never heard that one. If that's true then why are wrestling fans such cheapskates when it comes to tickets? What is it, $85 for a season pass? That's like minor league baseball prices....you'd think the self proclaimed best fans in sports would be willing to chip in a lot more so their program isn't as much of a parasite on the 2 revenue sports....no?
Exactly. The King paid the price. Who the Son sets free, is free indeed.
It gives kids in wheelchairs hope that one day they can be in a commercial too.
Unfortunately wrestling is a niche’ sport, I’ve never understood why, I’ve been obsessed since 1990. The Hawks continue to set attendance records for the sport, but other places (like Southern CA) when people hear wrestling the think tights and capes. I think it’s simple Economics supply vs demand.
I probably shouldn't have, but dammit, I laughed at this.
I bet the ANF decals on the football helmets must really drive you crazy! Hayden started that in 1985!
Big difference. Farmers are different races, country of origin, and everything else. 'Equity' is aimed at gay, non-white, female people. Look what all this has done in medical schools. Men are selected less than women now. Minorities have lower standards, etc. Our country was not founded for this. Anyone can come here and excel. (Not so much for slaves, but that was > 160 years ago.)
Welcome to the basketball board.
I'll throw you in the, "Just shut up and entertain us", crowd.
I'd like to know why not. Or what the anthem has anything to do with what I wrote about equality on the jerseys.
Derp is right! When you said:
"I'm not interested in the political debates. As someone else said, keep politics, religion, etc. out of sports. I watch sports for the competitive nature of it, not for the social commentary"
logic would follow that you'd believe the national anthem shouldn't be played before sporting events. That is unless you're a complete hypocrite and it's fine to have certain pieces of politics and religion in sports as long as they're your preferences and not somebody else's, right?
That'll ensure none of you poor folk have to be exposed to any "kneelers".
Ah, fine. But if you actually read the rest of my post, I clearly said that I'm OK with having equality on the jerseys as well. But I guess you ignored that, right?
Would I rather politics be kept out of sports? Yup. If that includes the anthem, then so be it. I don't really care. I don't consider myself overly patriotic. But again, as I said, I don't really care about the equality being on the jersey, either. Either keep both or remove both (jersey and anthem). At least I'm consistent. Or I try to be.
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Frankly I am more offended by the prescription drug commercials. I have the Skyrizzi song in my head.
If we lived in a civilized country with standards there would be no prescription drug ads.
If we lived in a civilized country with standards there would be no prescription drug ads.
We can thank congress for that. I forget when - maybe in the 90s - there were no prescription drug ads. The companies spent something like 5% on advertising and 30% on research. Research may have been much higher tho. After congress allowed ads, ad money went way up to 30 or so and research way down.
Are you serious? I wonder why we would care. It's not like our money goes to funding their salaries, and scholarships. What players and teams do also has an impact on how others view the state. Whether or not they like it of course people have a stake in what public funded universities do.
Then don’t support it. Pretty simple. I can tell you’re a guy that’s outraged by pretty small things.
Love it or leave it, huh?
Given the empty seats and apathetic fanbase, that's the last message people should be pushing for Iowa Basketball.
Hey I'm just glad you're aware that not many fans go to Carver (though it won't be like that tomorrow). Didn't know you had a clue about anything basketball related.
Two options. Neither good.
Sell to Illinois fans and have a sea of orange or give them away for free.
Lol. Such a false narrative. I'd say you're better than that but you're not. The students haven't gone to bball for 20-25 years. I'm not sure why. I doubt it's because of a stupid slogan on the back of a jersey. We've had the worst student section in the conference for as long as I can remember. This is the same kind of shit you guys were complaining about in football when the players were going to take a knee, and nobody was going to buy season tickets. It's not a love it leave it scenario. I like the product, and I like our players, and it's a team that plays it's ass off this year. If the slogan on a back of the jersey keeps you home I don't know what to tell you.
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