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Fascinating article on DEI initiatives at the Secret Service

When you say "our" you are talking only whites, or everyone?

Do you believe that white culture is decaying because of other races affecting it? Or is it a generational problem? Many old people think that way of the next generation.
Both generational and societal, not necessarily other races, just a general sense of entitlement and softness
 
Fair enough. I have no problem with the objective...just see some problems with the way it's being implemented in some quarters.
Agreed. In hiring practices I think it’s reasonable to consider diversity as A factor, not THE determining factor.

I also think it’s reasonable to have awareness seminars and such at work in general to expose people to other cultures/POVs.
 
Agreed. In hiring practices I think it’s reasonable to consider diversity as A factor, not THE determining factor.

I also think it’s reasonable to have awareness seminars and such at work in general to expose people to other cultures/POVs.
I've been in on some of the DE&I seminars... I'm old enough to remember Coke's "Try to be less white"
 
Lol so the Secret Service messes up big time, fails to do their job, and lets a Presidential candidate just about get his head blown off….and they blame DEI? Comedy at its finest. Of course the boards most gullible members are eating it up.

From now on, if I make a mistake at work, rather than looking internally at myself and what I could do better, I’m just going to say DEI caused my failure and move on.
they actually have to provide some sort of evidence.
 
No the notice to employees

Do you have a link where the company sent a notice?

I remember the Coke can that went viral and the DEI training link from Indeed
but not a statement from the company to its employees

Indeed training link




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The goal of our diversity training is to help build a better workplace, one that is respectful for all. Recently, we learned that content accessible through our company training platform did not align with this approach. To be clear, this was not a part of our training curriculum and we immediately removed the links to that content.

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Do you have a link where the company sent a notice?

I remember the Coke can that went viral and the DEI training link from Indeed
but not a statement from the company to its employees

Indeed training link




Coke Statement
The goal of our diversity training is to help build a better workplace, one that is respectful for all. Recently, we learned that content accessible through our company training platform did not align with this approach. To be clear, this was not a part of our training curriculum and we immediately removed the links to that content.

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That was it, thank you for clarifying!
 
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This is where the broken brain of the simpletons can't comprehend a concept that should be very easy to grasp. "Most qualified" can mean a lot of things and it isn't just years in the job. For example, let's say you're hiring for a sales manager for FUBU. You're damn right I'm going to take into account their understanding and cultural experience as part of the criteria and not just look at their resume. Smart companies leverage cultural differences all the time. It does make them better. It just doesn't need to be forced with DEI.
I'm sorry, I wasn't sensitive to people like you whose entire careers can be explained by special treatment. DEI was a god send for people who can't compete when skill, brains and merit are considered, right Hawki97?
 
Only if the diversity wasn’t at the cost of better performance. Have you seen 4 states no longer require the attorneys in a state to pass the bar exam? They said not enough blacks passed it, so of course it’s racist. What I want to know, truly, is why it’s ok to say blacks on the whole ar gifted athletically, but it’s racist to say Asians and whites are more gifted intellectually?

It’s also racist to say blacks are gifted athletically similar to saying Asians are good at math. You are associating a trait with the entire race.
 
During the podcast, the equity director outlined how every action at the Secret Service should be informed by DEI and claimed the ideology makes the organization stronger. Every employee should consider how every action is reflective of equity, according to the director.

"I could talk on and on what the agency is doing to promote diversity, equity and inclusionDEI is every action every day," he said. "So the opportunity for improvement for every employee within the Secret Service is to ask themselves, ‘What action are you doing every day?’"

"Part of the things that we need to continue to do more is to be open and speak openly about diversity, equity, inclusion and accessibility. And when every one of us within this agency can say this is a mission imperative, then we have achieved our ultimate goal," he said during the podcast.

Definitely NOT a cult.
 
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Only if the diversity wasn’t at the cost of better performance. Have you seen 4 states no longer require the attorneys in a state to pass the bar exam? They said not enough blacks passed it, so of course it’s racist. What I want to know, truly, is why it’s ok to say blacks on the whole ar gifted athletically, but it’s racist to say Asians and whites are more gifted intellectually?

Ahh, my point is, the stereotypes are their based on real life data.

Stereotypes are easy for the common man to grab on to and apply far too universally. And we've strayed far beyond the DEI discussion in the OP which is why I disqualified your initial comment from the context of this conversation in my response. It's moot.

It’s probably useful to note that neither of those stereotypes are actually true if you actually look at smart data.
 
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It’s probably useful to note that neither of those stereotypes are actually true if you actually look at smart data.
Give me an example. Looking at the size of the us population, then comparing it to our professional sports leagues, seems obvious. Looking at iq, ACT, SAT, other exam and gpa markers, it also seems obvious
 
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Sure. Athleticism and intelligence are both sets of a wide variety of aptitudes and abilities. Take athleticism first: sub-Saharan African seem to have a physiological advantage in sprinting. Caucasians seem to have a physiological advantage in swimming. Asians tend to excel in sports with fast hand eye coordination (baseball, cricket, table tennis, e-sports). Hispanics and North Africans excel at distance running etc. Each of these abilities seem to come from environmental factors that their ancestors slowly adapted to.

Intelligences are obviously trickier. However, those too seem to have aptitudes. East Asians have a mathematical competency. Aborigines have been shown to have greater spatial intelligence on average. Sub-Saharan Africans a greater competency at identifying linguistic patterns. Those of European descent tend to excel at logical analysis.

The biggest thing to remember is that socioeconomics, parental education, parental involvement, life experiences, culture etc. are MUCH bigger factors in these aptitudes.
 
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Sure. Athleticism and intelligence are both sets of a wide variety of aptitudes and abilities. Take athleticism first: sub-Saharan African seem to have a physiological advantage in sprinting. Caucasians seem to have a physiological advantage in swimming. Asians tend to excel in sports with fast hand eye coordination (baseball, cricket, table tennis, e-sports). Hispanics and North Africans excel at distance running etc. Each of these abilities seem to come from environmental factors that their ancestors slowly adapted to.

Intelligences are obviously trickier. However, those too seem to have aptitudes. East Asians have a mathematical competency. Aborigines have been shown to have greater spatial intelligence on average. Sub-Saharan Africans a greater competency at identifying linguistic patterns. Those of European descent tend to excel at logical analysis.

The biggest thing to remember is that socioeconomics, parental education, parental involvement, life experiences, culture etc. are MUCH bigger factors in these aptitudes.
I said athletic. Running , jumping, etc. Swimming also fits the general stereotype. I just am not afraid to acknowledge that they are differences in races that grab benefits in certain areas, such as intelligence and athleticism, and that trying to legislate equity is not meritous or worthwhile.
 
I said athletic. Running , jumping, etc. Swimming also fits the general stereotype. I just am not afraid to acknowledge that they are differences in races that grab benefits in certain areas, such as intelligence and athleticism, and that trying to legislate equity is not meritous or worthwhile.
The problem is “intelligence” and “athleticism” are far too broad strokes, as I pointed out. And especially intelligence is a highly subjective term when it comes down to it. And worst of all, this broad brush exaggerates racial differences which are minute and attributable to many more important factors.
 
The problem is “intelligence” and “athleticism” are far too broad strokes, as I pointed out. And especially intelligence is a highly subjective term when it comes down to it. And worst of all, this broad brush exaggerates racial differences which are minute and attributable to many more important factors.
I’m not sure how minute they are. Look at the numbers in the NFL, NBA, etc . Look at IQ scores. Pretty significant. I get why people want to say it’s not a racial difference and only a customs and socioeconomic difference, but it’s not. You can legislate equal opportunity for success, you can’t legislate equal success, nor should that be a goal
 
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