Knowing what it says, and understanding what it says are distinctly different things...
FDA cancels meeting to update next season's flu vaccines, potentially disrupting flu vaccine manufacturing schedules for the 2025-2026 season
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Knowing what it says, and understanding what it says are distinctly different things...
You think that article matters. I know you are saying the opposite of what people a hell of a lot smarter and informed on this topic than you are. So, again, you want an opinion that matters go get your degrees, go do your research, go get published in journals. Go do the work.
Why do you think most children’s hospitals and most hospitals in general required workers to get the flu vaccine?
You get the vaccine to possibly stop the spread to others. You don’t get it to just protect yourself.
This has been a huge year for the flu. Not exactly great timing for everyone to take a year off the vaccine and not research what the best strains to include in next year’s vaccine.
FDA cancels meeting to update next season's flu vaccines
The cancellation potentially upends the process to start making next winter's flu shots.www.cbsnews.com
Oh Boy, these guys are really smart!!!
Nice way to exploit children. My daughter has been a frequent flier there. Just stop fear mongering.
Eat right stop being fat and fast food.
One of the biggest jokes around is the wave. Most kids get cleared out over the weekend. My daughter was so excited to get to where that happens during the week. She’s is a wheel chair. The donor tour group were to Busey with selfies she didn’t get to look out the window before she got to tired to get to the window. We know the Ferentz room well.
You give Dems a bad name.
Because they follow protocols some of which are profit driven
Why do you think so many nurses left? One reason was the vax.
Who's "exploiting children"?
Vaccinations protect the kids w/ compromised immune systems.
They follow protocols to PREVENT infectious diseases from getting into the hospital where they'll wreak havoc on children w/ compromised immune systems.
You are full of it. My daughter can struggle being around recent covid vaxed people due to a genetic blood you need to quit taking the Kool aide
She’s been in 4 different children’s hospitals. 9 surgeries and 12 total hospitalizations. Almost lost her at the start of Covid due to a stupid doctor. The RN wife teamed with a pharmacist to appeal to the admin to get the idiot to stop what he was doing. She’s a terrific amazed nurse who worked peds. Revived a bb player at a hs game who had a cardiac arrest during a game. 2 took shocks. Went 10 plus without a pulse. So many nurses don’t trust the system you place so much faith in. Still bet you are fat
Because they follow the advice of the CDC without doing their own independent analysis. It is very hard for physicians to practice completely independent when they are working under large institutions.
- This is from a link on the "benefits of influenza vaccine" website on the CDC (link below). "Practices tend to follow public policy. So, most U.S. states adopt the ACIP’s recommended schedule for immunizations of children, adolescents, and/or adults." https://www.sciencedirect.com/topic...and-pharmaceutical-science/vaccination-policy
The rate of hospitalization from influenza is between 0.02% - 2.5% chance of being hospitalized. The majority of these hospitalizations are children under 7 and most deaths occur in 85+. I would also guess the majority of those hospitalized have at least 2 co-comorbidities (I would be interested in real numbers if someone wants to look it up).
I would encourage anyone to read the studies linked to the CDC website. They are very inconclusive and they do not apply to the majority of the population. They are able to study the patients in the hospital, but the vast majority never need a hospital admission. Remember, these are the best studies out there, if there were better ones, they would be linked. https://www.cdc.gov/flu-vaccines-work/benefits/index.html
It is frequently said that getting the vaccine will help the elderly stay healthy, but this is not true. "Both young adults and elderly manifested significantly decreased influenza vaccine effectiveness compared with children." https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0264410X24002184
Elderly are the most susceptible to being hospitalized or dying from influenza. According to the numbers, it would make sense to vaccinate young children or children with co-comorbidities, but it does not make sense to apply a broad vaccine recommendation for ages 18-65. This is what I call lazy medicine. Its easier to say everyone should take it rather than do the actual research to determine what groups actually benefit from it.
The possibility that influenza vaccines can attenuate the severity of influenza disease among those who become infected despite vaccination has been an intermittent topic of research and debate for decades [1]. Multiple animal and human virus challenge studies have demonstrated that influenza vaccines can reduce the signs and duration of influenza disease among those infected despite vaccination [e.g., [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], but extrapolation from these studies is limited due to small sample sizes, use of challenge viruses that do not elicit severe disease, and lack of comparability between naïve animal models and the complex influenza exposure histories typical of people. Although attenuation of disease severity among vaccinees has been widely reported anecdotally, it has not been systematically or routinely evaluated. A major challenge lies in the heterogeneous and imprecise measurement of what constitutes severe influenza illness, with many indicators of disease severity based on types and levels of medical care rather than physiologic markers of disease severity. To our knowledge, there has been no review of published findings that report the frequency of influenza disease outcomes (e.g., hospital admission, ICU admission) among those who were vaccinated compared with those who were unvaccinated prior to their illnesses, leaving under-examined this potential protective benefit of vaccination.
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