Federal judge hands Musk’s DOGE a win on data access at 3 agencies

[Joes Place]

I believe they even admitted the mistake on that one.

They LIED on that one.
Just like they are LYING about all the rest of it.

 

[Joes Place]

The DOGE staff have a similar background check as other government employees.

NOPE.

Another LIE.

 

[Joes Place]

Yes, and have they done it?

Write your reps and ASK them

 

[Sullivan]

NOPE.

Another LIE.

If you type things in bold and capital letters, you are more likely to believe in fake news.

 

[lucas80]

Exactly, and they have refused to do...which is why DOGE was created.

Who created DOGE? Who funds and oversees it? What legal authority do they have?

 

[bcherod]

If you type things in bold and capital letters, you are more likely to believe in fake news.

Right, and your fake news refuses to believe real people with years of experience.

Then there’s the pesky thing called the law.

But you and yours believe you’re above the law because your guy told you so v

 

[Sullivan]

Right, and your fake news refuses to believe real people with years of experience.

Then there’s the pesky thing called the law.

But you and yours believe you’re above the law because your guy told you so v

The pesky thing he called laws that are being upheld by judges.

There are liberal judges making decisions, but most of them are/will be overruled.

 

[Joes Place]

The pesky thing he called laws that are being upheld by judges.

There are liberal judges making decisions, but most of them are/will be overruled.

This means the laws are NOT going to be upheld, Cletus.

 

[Sullivan]

This means the laws are NOT going to be upheld, Cletus.

That’s fake news again, Sparky.

 

[Joes Place]

That’s fake news again, Sparky.

It's what YOU posted

Sparky.

 

[runkpanole]

The DOGE staff have a similar background check as other government employees.

Link?

 

[RileyHawk]

The DOGE staff have a similar background check as other government employees.

You make a lot of shit up.

 

[Sullivan]

You make a lot of shit up.

I don’t subscribe to your fake news.

So you believe Elan hasn’t had a more thorough background (owning Spacex) than the typical social security employee? Do tell…

 

[RileyHawk]

I don’t subscribe to your fake news.

So you believe Elan hasn’t had a more thorough background (owning Spacex) than the typical social security employee? Do tell…

Can't make this stuff up.

 

[Hawkman34]

Who is in the majority in Congress, please look it up. or, the Repubs have a 53-47 majority and the House Repubs have a 1 or 2 seat majority.

The Dems cannot pass a bill by themselves and the Repub bootlickers almost always vote how Dumpster wants. So this is all down to the Repubs.

It is good politics as the minority to try to bring a vote to the floor on a bill to see if some Repubs will vote with them. And the vote could be a shame on you type of vote like voting for more food for poor kids just to see how many Repubs will vote against it.

With the knowledge that they can't pass a bill, then it would be up to the courts.....which currently have sided with DOGE

But, that’s not what you said or argued originally.

Actually, the first point I made was this "At the very least, DOGE is every bit the agency USAID is. I don't understand how people can continue to claim otherwise. The United States Agency for International Development (USAID) was created by President John F. Kennedy on November 3, 1961, through Executive Order 10973.
In addition, I have always said it was the courts who have sided with DOGE. Then someone said it was up to Congress to take care of things...so I said then they should try and pass a bill. It may not pass, but that was not my point.

 

[Hawkman34]

An agency can’t usurp the constitutional and statuary role of Congress. That’s what you don’t seem to get. You “feel” there’s fraud in congressionally-authorized spend, but DOGE isn’t authorized as an agency to do what they’re doing.

I see you’re going to choose to die on this hill so my words are meaningless

I appreciate the honest conversation...truly. My point is that it would take a court to say that they are doing what you pointed out. And, the court has said the opposite at this point. Is that true or not? And, as I understand it, the DOGE team is making recommendations and the President is acting on those...they are not the ones actually stopping any spending.

 

[RileyHawk]

With the knowledge that they can't pass a bill, then it would be up to the courts.....which currently have sided with DOGE

Actually, the first point I made was this "At the very least, DOGE is every bit the agency USAID is. I don't understand how people can continue to claim otherwise. The United States Agency for International Development (USAID) was created by President John F. Kennedy on November 3, 1961, through Executive Order 10973.
In addition, I have always said it was the courts who have sided with DOGE. Then someone said it was up to Congress to take care of things...so I said then they should try and pass a bill. It may not pass, but that was not my point.

You are the one who said "If they are skirting the constitution, then why are the Dems in Congress not trying to pass a bill to stop it?".

You're an ignorant moron.

 

[Hawkman34]

There is “waste” every where in business…I just think this DOGE bullshit is just that…mostly agenda driven bullshit… and nothing that can’t be handled more efficiently on a daily basis…Again… why was there a big deal about about condoms for Arabs when it was a phuquin’ lie from the get-go? Just bullshit to create noise and get everyone up in arms…because we know a couple of things about Trump… he is a lyin’ sumbitch about everything and he loves to make noise… lots of phuquin’ noise.

You might be right Joel. I don't agree at this point, but of course what you say it totally plausable. But, my issue is that the left will be totally silent when they do the same thing with a series of lies to try and turn a narrative. For example, reporting that ICE had stormed Chicago schools in search of illegal aliens, when if fact that was absolutly not true. Or how about telling people that their Food Stamps, ect was being shut off (a complete and utter lie) and then playing the video of a women in the throws of a mental breakdown because of their lies. It goes both ways on this. Now, DOGE did find where $50,000,000 worth of condoms were sent to a GAZA region...just not the one they were originally claiming. They did admit the error....but I have not heard the dems ever appologise for the lies I pointed out.

 

[Hawkman34]

Do you even understand why that would be done? Are you totally unaware of ethnic Albanians and Croats?

It happened to be part of educating the Serbs that genocide is a bad thing.

Come on now........

 

[Hawkman34]

Well, you'd be wrong. That's a law, not fraud. But you do you and assume what you want. That's par for the course for anti-american principled maga.

Respectfully disagree. I would like my Congress people to know what is in EVERY bill and make sure the money that is spent is spent wisely. You can't honestly believe that is happening. It is very scary how many libs are against more oversite....

 

[Hawkman34]

Yes, in one case. Which is at it should work. That doesn't dismiss the ignorance you once again demonstrated.

What ignorance? My main points have always stayed on track. It is you and others who have thrown out that they are violating the constitution...even after knowing the courts have ruled in DOGE's favor.

 

[Hawkman34]

DOGE has zero constitutional authority to over-ride Congress on spending.

None.

Already posted the article from the Reagan WH counsel who outlined that for you.

And they are not over-riding congress on spending. They are making recommendations to the President as they were instructed to do.

 

[Hawkman34]

Write your representatives and ASK them.
Because THAT is their job.

How do you know I haven't? And, clearly they know that the American people want this done. Have you not seen the newest polling out on this subject?

 

[Hawkman34]

A Reagan WH lawyer is now a RINO?

Just listen to yourself here.

Are you serious? The answer is yes.

 

[Hawkman34]

They LIED on that one.
Just like they are LYING about all the rest of it.

They were wrong on the GAZA that it went to and they admitted as such. Now, can you say the same about the lies the Dems/Left have said in the past few weeks? Not a peep about those out and out lies that actually affected real Americans......

 

[Hawkman34]

Congress funds things they shouldn’t fund all the time. It’s still their job to fix it. For example, we could start will military spending.

Agree. So why fight so hard when the new administration is trying to identify all of that? And, I believe they are going to go after military spending as well.

 

[Hawkman34]

Who created DOGE? Who funds and oversees it? What legal authority do they have?

Created by executive order. Not sure on the funding. The courts have sided with what they are doing.

 

[Hawkman34]

The pesky thing he called laws that are being upheld by judges.

There are liberal judges making decisions, but most of them are/will be overruled.

Exactly. They refuse to admit that Biden went against the courts ALL the time and was proud to say he was doing it.

 

[Hawkman34]

NOPE.

Another LIE.

Please provide proof of that statement.

 

[Hawkman34]

I don’t subscribe to your fake news.

So you believe Elan hasn’t had a more thorough background (owning Spacex) than the typical social security employee? Do tell…

Musk has had a security clearance for years. In fact, Biden kept his security clearance in place.

 

[Hawkman34]

You are the one who said "If they are skirting the constitution, then why are the Dems in Congress not trying to pass a bill to stop it?".

You're an ignorant moron.

I replied to someone else who claimed as such....can you not read? That was not my claim. LOL!

Now, I used to reply to personal attacks like the ones you throw out with ones of my own. Those days are over for me. Maybe it is because I am excited for the things I see that are happening that are positive for this country. Trump had a list of things he was going to do if elected.....it was all he talked about. He is doing exactly what he said he was going to do. I am sorry that does not fit what you want for America.

 

[lucas80]

Created by executive order. Not sure on the funding. The courts have sided with what they are doing.

Is “not sure”, you’re way of saying this isn’t legal?

 

[lucas80]

What is notable is that Congress could take a few quick votes and clear a few things up. It’s almost as if some republicans do not want to be tagged with the responsibility for opening the books and might want an escape hatch.

 

[bhawk24bob]

DOGE-affiliated employee expected to seek access to IRS system with sensitive taxpayer information

The Integrated Data Retrieval System allows IRS employees to access taxpayer information.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[KFsdisciple]

Correct.

But we're supposed to ignore all the unconstitutional stuff, and nothing else matters until there are actual concentration camps gassing people.

I knew you were full of hot air, I had no idea you could fill a room. You're even more impressive than I've given you credit for.

 

[KFsdisciple]

A lot of the “headlines” will turn out to Bev bullshit and lies… how in the hell can a kid walk into someone’s books and declare billions of $$$ of waste after looking at the books for a couple of days? There is no reputable accountant/biokkeeper/auditor that works that way…only those folks with an agenda. This, like everything Trump is nothing more than theatrics and diversion. Trump will make up some numbers to ram through a tax cut that will greatly serve his billionaire friends and cohearts. He will phuque every American he has to and every American ally he can to accomplish his ends.

Awfully nice of you to think Trump has "friends" Sure a long time ago everybody seemed to love the guy and he was pretty much everywhere with everyone... but now you think he has friends? LOL.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

And whose fault is that Hawk? This “USAid” fund is no secret department ..it is funded by Congress and can be audited at the request of any one member of Congress…Congress is notorious for failure of oversight….renember tge mortgage/insurance collapse during Junior’s presidency? Lack of congressional oversight….
The border /immigration “crisis” of the past 20 years?? Lack of Congress oversight/action…

The fact that Biden dedcided not to enforce immigration laws has nothing to do with Congress.

 

[runkpanole]

With the knowledge that they can't pass a bill, then it would be up to the courts.....which currently have sided with DOGE

Actually, the first point I made was this "At the very least, DOGE is every bit the agency USAID is. I don't understand how people can continue to claim otherwise. The United States Agency for International Development (USAID) was created by President John F. Kennedy on November 3, 1961, through Executive Order 10973.
In addition, I have always said it was the courts who have sided with DOGE. Then someone said it was up to Congress to take care of things...so I said then they should try and pass a bill. It may not pass, but that was not my point.

Yeah, true, but it’s now established in law in 1998.

USAID was created via Congress's Foreign Assistance Act in 1961. That law mandated for a government agency to be set up and tasked with administering overseas spending.

Then-President John F Kennedy then created USAID via executive order. The agency's status as an executive agency was enshrined by US law in 1998.

What is USAID and why does Donald Trump want to end it?

The US aid agency spends $40bn a year on humanitarian support - but Trump says he wants it to be shuttered.

www.bbc.com

 

[Hawkman34]

Is “not sure”, you’re way of saying this isn’t legal?

Not at all. I never said it was not legally funded, I am simply saying I am not sure about where the funding is coming from.

 

[Rifler]

An entity like DOGE is necessary because Congress simply cannot be trusted to out itself on all of the very stupid, wasteful, and sometimes fraudulent spending choices that it has made over the years, and continues to make...

Federal Budget = Liquor Cabinet
Congress = Teenage Kids
DOGE = Mom & Dad