Federal judge hands Musk’s DOGE a win on data access at 3 agencies

[Champ_Kind_whammy]

The amount of DC corruption will continue to be exposed ... of course the Demonicrats are suing, LEFTISM can't exist without ripping off the American taxpayer.
If the government handouts ever ended most of the MSM and activist organizations would go bust within 12 months.
Everyone on here with an IQ above plant life knows that.

 

[runkpanole]

Individual data? Do you mean data such as is the recipient 150 years old???

It seems relevant to uncovering fraud.

He’s not a sworn law enforcement officer. Of course, I guess it could be argued that the Republican Party has recently been big law enforcement.

 

[Sullivan]

He’s not a sworn law enforcement officer. Of course, I guess it could be argued that the Republican Party has recently been big law enforcement.

You don’t need to be a sworn law enforcement to access a lot of information.

There is more people that see your information than you realuze.

 

[runkpanole]

Do don’t need to be sworn law enforcement to access a lot of information.

There is more people that see your information than you realuze.

Wow. Can you please retype that? Do don’t. Reluze.

 

[RileyHawk]

Well, to my point, your party just announced yesterday that part of their 4 point plan (such as it is) is that they are going to start bringing bills to the floor over this. Do you even follow your party? LOL!

Not to combat unconstitutional and unlawful actions which was your ignorant claim.

What party do I follow?

You're a moron.

 

[RileyHawk]

Goodness.......President Trump is pulling the strings of the actual actions involved.

Yes. He and Musk. Which goes against the Constitutional mandate that Congress controllthe purse strings.

SMFH

 

[RileyHawk]

Lol, your SS has been given by you everywhere and your only worried about Musk.🤪🤪🤪

You're wrong. And yes I am.

If it's no big deal give us all your SSN or STFU.

 

[joelbc1]

Gay Pete might have been the worst cabinet member ever.

“Gay Pete”? Why Sully, why do you have to be such an asshole? All the goddamn time….typical asshole
MAGA jerk….wht is your criteria for “the worst cabinet member ever”?

 

[Hawkman34]

Again, he interpreted the immigrants at the border differently than the Orange Turd. Completely within his scope as President. Basically, Biden's EOs negated what Trump’s EOs did a few years before. That is a the flaw of legislating by Executive Order. The Courts or new Administration can wipe them out with the stroke of a pen.

No, his actions in the last half of his term prove your point false. Again, he used an EO to completely open the border day one.....AFTER telling people to surge during the campaign. Then

Let me help you. He asked for access to individual data.

IRS reportedly preparing to give Musk’s Doge agency access to taxpayer data

US tax agency has received request for access to classified system containing personal financial records of US taxpayers

www.theguardian.com

Elon Musk's DOGE asks for access to IRS taxpayer data, sources say

Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency requested access to an IRS data system that retains the personal tax information on millions of Americans, sources say.

abcnews.go.com

Elon Musk's DOGE Team Wants Access to IRS Database, Including Taxpayer Information

The Internal Revenue Service is preparing to allow the Department of Government Efficiency access to private financial data tied to millions of Americans, including Social Security numbers, addresses, and banking details.

www.vanityfair.com

And, this would be different from any other audit of that info how??

 

[Hawkman34]

No, it is not. Multiple cases brought are still pending on it, and those stays are still in force.

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Actually, until those pending action rule differently......then DOGE is ok to proceed. You do understand that don't you?

 

[Hawkman34]

ZERO oversight.

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You are basing your stance on thoughts from Buttigieg? That right there loses the argument for you. LOL!

 

[Hawkman34]

When the other administration committed no fraud, there's nothing for IGs to correct, Cletus.

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Sure, that's why Biden pardoned his WHOLE family and others for crimes already committed and a blanket pardon for all future crimes. Tells us there is no corruption while telling us there was major corruption. LOL!

 

[Hawkman34]

He did not when he tried to fire all the IGs

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Wrong. The Inspector General Act of 1978 states that “[a]n Inspector General may be removed from office by the President.” The only issue at hand is if Trump is actually required to provide Congress with a 30 day notice.

 

[Hawkman34]

Gay Pete might have been the worst cabinet member ever.

He was truly terrible in his position.....

 

[Hawkman34]

Got admire your patience and fortitude. They all have insider information but still make no sense.

These group of Dems on here are an angry bunch. I used to communicate in a different way that, honestly made me very ashamed of myself. I am trying to do better and try to have honest conversations. They have made points that I have agreed with, but unless you capitulate to everything they think, they will spew hate and call names. That is why the Dems lost in every facet of the election. John Stewart blasted the party on his podcast. I was shocked because he is as left as they come, but even he is starting to see it now.

 

[Hawkman34]

Not to combat unconstitutional and unlawful actions which was your ignorant claim.

What party do I follow?

You're a moron.

Ummm....instead of calling names.....try and follow the points put forth. You called me out for saying that "the Dems should put bills forth to stop trump". Your party claimed yesterday that they were going to do just that with their 4 point plan.

And, we all already know what party you follow. Just wanted to see you admit it. LOL!

 

[jonesy5960]

“Gay Pete”? Why Sully, why do you have to be such an asshole? All the goddamn time….typical asshole
MAGA jerk….wht is your criteria for “the worst cabinet member ever”?

Please stand by while he tries to identify another gay cabinet member.

 

[Hawkman34]

Yes. He and Musk. Which goes against the Constitutional mandate that Congress controllthe purse strings.

SMFH

The current ruling from a Federal Judge says he has the ability to do this.

Line Item Veto Act of 1996 says was amended so the ICA “would authorize the President to be able to cancel in whole any dollar amount of discretionary budget authority, any item of new direct spending, or any limited tax benefit signed into law.” Such moves required certain conditions, including reducing the federal budget deficit and not impairing “essential Government functions” or causing “harm” to “the national interest.” Congress could override a spending cancellation by the president using an expedited process. About the only thing I see that might apply to someone against this is to say that this might cause harm to our national interest. I have not see proof of this with what he has stopped.....but knock yourself out.

 

[joelbc1]

No, his actions in the last half of his term prove your point false. Again, he used an EO to completely open the border day one.....AFTER telling people to surge during the campaign. Then

And, this would be different from any other audit of that info how??

Duh….. that’s what EOs allow the President to do! Only the Courts can overturn them. Otherwise they remain intact until they at countermanded by an EO! It’s a pretty easy principle to follow…. And regardless of what you think, it isn’t “illegal” if the Courts don’t “stay” them.

 

[Hawkman34]

Duh….. that’s what EOs allow the President to do! Only the Courts can overturn them. Otherwise they remain intact until they at countermanded by an EO! It’s a pretty easy principle to follow…. And regardless of what you think, it isn’t “illegal” if the Courts don’t “stay” them.

I never claimed what Biden did with his EO was illegal? Where did you ever get that? I supported Trumps EO's. I simply said he did it, and he, all you Dems claimed the border was totally secure. LOL!

I mean, for pete sakes, he reversed his own EO on the border back to Trumps policies in his last half year of his term. But ya, the border was secure the whole time.

 

[joelbc1]

I never claimed what Biden did with his EO was illegal? Where did you ever get that? I supported Trumps EO's. I simply said he did it, and he, all you Dems claimed the border was totally secure. LOL!

I mean, for pete sakes, he reversed his own EO on the border back to Trumps policies in his last half year of his term. But ya, the border was secure the whole time.

“All you Dems claimed the border was secure”…. No we didn’t…
The border cost Joe the election….BUT it in the responsibility of Congress to secure the border. Congress had a plan back when Junior was President that was sunk by 30 MAGA Republicans…and they have delayed and stalled any meaningful immigration reform ever since…including plans forwarded by their own. But make no mistake here… this is Congresses job…not the President’s job.

 

[RileyHawk]

Ummm....instead of calling names.....try and follow the points put forth. You called me out for saying that "the Dems should put bills forth to stop trump". Your party claimed yesterday that they were going to do just that with their 4 point plan.

And, we all already know what party you follow. Just wanted to see you admit it. LOL!

You just make shit up. That's not what you said. We're at the lying portion of your schtick now.

You claimed I am affiliated with a party. Just another of many ignorant statements you make.

 

[RileyHawk]

The current ruling from a Federal Judge says he has the ability to do this.

Line Item Veto Act of 1996 says was amended so the ICA “would authorize the President to be able to cancel in whole any dollar amount of discretionary budget authority, any item of new direct spending, or any limited tax benefit signed into law.” Such moves required certain conditions, including reducing the federal budget deficit and not impairing “essential Government functions” or causing “harm” to “the national interest.” Congress could override a spending cancellation by the president using an expedited process. About the only thing I see that might apply to someone against this is to say that this might cause harm to our national interest. I have not see proof of this with what he has stopped.....but knock yourself out.

No. You're wrong.

Are you now saying the President has line item veto power and that is what is being used here? I just want to be sure what level of idiocy you're at now.

 

[joelbc1]

There would have to be a Constitutional Amendment to allow the President the power of “line item veto” correct? That would result in a fundamental change in the powers of the Legislative and the Executive branches of government greatly altering the roles of both and greatly increasing the power of the Executive branch, altering the dynamics of “checks and balances”. And remember, the Constitution was written (and signed) to insure the United States a unique form of government featuring 3 co-equal branches of government.

 

[Champ_Kind_whammy]

GOP Rep. Tim Burchett Says Democrats Are “Terrified” Because DOGE is Going to Find a “Paper Trail” of Money That Went Overseas and Ended Up Back Into Pockets of Lawmakers​

 

[Joes Place]

Individual data? Do you mean data such as is the recipient 150 years old???

It seems relevant to uncovering fraud.

Seems irrelevant to people who understand database systems.

 

[Joes Place]

And, this would be different from any other audit of that info how??

They have no "auditors" involved.

Been pointed out to you in dozens of posts already.

 

[Joes Place]

You are basing your stance on thoughts from Buttigieg?

I posted the same for you a half dozen times.

Thought maybe a former Cabinet secretary would help you understand here.
Guess not.

 

[Joes Place]

The current ruling from a Federal Judge says he has the ability to do this.

Line Item Veto Act of 1996 says was amended so the ICA “would authorize the President to be able to cancel in whole any dollar amount of discretionary budget authority, any item of new direct spending, or any limited tax benefit signed into law.” Such moves required certain conditions, including reducing the federal budget deficit and not impairing “essential Government functions” or causing “harm” to “the national interest.” Congress could override a spending cancellation by the president using an expedited process. About the only thing I see that might apply to someone against this is to say that this might cause harm to our national interest. I have not see proof of this with what he has stopped.....but knock yourself out.

Someone doesn't know what "discretionary budgetary authority" is.

 

[Joes Place]

Wrong. The Inspector General Act of 1978 states that “[a]n Inspector General may be removed from office by the President.”

For Cause.

And with notification to Congress, which has the ultimate oversight.

NONE of that was followed here, which is statutory law.

 

[Joes Place]

Sure, that's why Biden pardoned his WHOLE family and others for crimes already committed and a blanket pardon for all future

Tells us that he could see what was coming.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

He’s not a sworn law enforcement officer. Of course, I guess it could be argued that the Republican Party has recently been big law enforcement.

Your dentist's office has your SS# which some underpaid 20-year-old office worker had access to, yet you're worried the richest man in the world wants to rob you.

LOL - Jesus you're stupid.

 

[Joes Place]

Your dentist's office has your SS#

Nope. Mine does not.

They do have my dental insurance policy # and the CC # I paid them with.

Not my Social.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Tells us that he could see what was coming.

It's still coming and coming really soon.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Nope. Mine does not.

They do have my dental insurance policy # and the CC # I paid them with.

Not my Social.

Wrong

 

[Joes Place]

It's still coming and coming really soon.

And it'll be the end of our Constitution.
Yet, here you are, celebrating a turn to fascism and a loss of individual rights

 

[RileyHawk]

Your dentist's office has your SS# which some underpaid 20-year-old office worker had access to, yet you're worried the richest man in the world wants to rob you.

LOL - Jesus you're stupid.

Mine doesn't. You're a rube for giving them that info.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

And it'll be the end of our Constitution.
Yet, here you are, celebrating a turn to fascism and a loss of individual rights

Exposing the crimes and graft of the left and the deep state is certainly not embracing fascism.
My advice to you is to either dig a hole and hide in it or embrace the new America, cause it's gonna happen.

 

[joelbc1]

Your dentist's office has your SS# which some underpaid 20-year-old office worker had access to, yet you're worried the richest man in the world wants to rob you.

LOL - Jesus you're stupid.

Why would my Dentist office have my SS#?
Cannot think of one reason why… please tell me Rico, wonder boy? Insurance info sure… but not my SS#…

 

[Joes Place]

Exposing the crimes and graft of the left and the deep state

There are no federal agents or inspectors doing the work here.

Ergo, most of what they might dig up isn't admissible in any court, because it has no direct traceability, Cletus.