Watch the video. If you think it was the F-word, you aren't being genuine. TG should just be glad he was ushered out before Metcalf took him outside.
Just like with Pico?
Watch the video. If you think it was the F-word, you aren't being genuine. TG should just be glad he was ushered out before Metcalf took him outside.
IMO he was trying to keep in the spirit of the evening by trash talking, but there were a couple of serious problems. First, the key to that is being funny. If you're funny it's obvious you're joking and trash talk comes across as good humored, otherwise it just sounds angry. But if you're not gifted at humor it's damn hard to pull that off, and TG is clearly not gifted. He also didn't give any visual clues that he was joking, which combined with the absence of wit made it look like he was stone cold serious.
I think he shouldn't have been out in that position.
Fake news guaranteed.
^^This. Not many 23-yr-olds are skilled in public speaking.. . . It's not like, at 23, he's been up there giving speeches for a bunch of years . . .
^^This, too. When you roast with a smile, everyone knows it's in fun. When you roast without a smile, it comes off as angry, hateful, and personal.. . . He also didn't give any visual clues that he was joking, which combined with the absence of wit made it look like he was stone cold serious . . .
Well, I think the tough-guy reputation sticks if the program is winning championships. Without the championships, the tough-guy schtick comes off like the Oakland Raiders.It’s as if you guys didn’t know Iowa has a tough guy reputation?
why are you such a dick?are you saying the event is supposed to be an opportunity to talk about how awesome the donors are?
sounds super altruistic.
that sounds like what you're saying. it also sounds vain af.
iowa wont be back next year. so the other schools can talk about how awesome the donors are by themselves.
Some things that Gilman said were not really needed and he didn't have to swear that much. But like others said, it was supposed to be a roast session and Schwab did say that it was all in fun and they were supposed to roast each other. I don't necessarily think Gilman had to say the part about not wanting people to cheer for him as a team USA member, but I agree with Chief and can somewhat see his point of view and why he said that. Also, Gilman did what Gilman does and he spoke his mind. He never has and never will care what anyone thinks about his opinions. I was also a big fan of Metcalf as a hawk but I liked the part about him wrestling dresser, metcalf, etc. he responded about him and the hawks ready to wrestle anyone anywhere and I thought it was kinda funny. He went to far at times and maybe said things that he shouldn't have. But that's Gilman for ya and that's what people had to expect.
Lastly, @MVPFAN I didn't want to quote your whole post just to show you my opinion on gilmans speech, and I also agree with a lot of your things and like you as a poster... but, you said "obviously trying to roast people is not a natural for him..." I actually believe he did do a pretty good job roasting people based on how much some people are overreacting. He struck a nerve with some people and even though he might not have done it in the funniest way, he definitely got the roasting job done.
Glad to know your sister will be in Tokyo cheering on Gilman and the rest of Team USA.Next Olympics, Big mouth will be watching from the stands
^^This. Not many 23-yr-olds are skilled in public speaking.
^^This, too. When you roast with a smile, everyone knows it's in fun. When you roast without a smile, it comes off as angry, hateful, and personal.
Well, I think the tough-guy reputation sticks if the program is winning championships. Without the championships, the tough-guy schtick comes off like the Oakland Raiders.
why are you such a dick?
IMO he was trying to keep in the spirit of the evening by trash talking, but there were a couple of serious problems. First, the key to that is being funny. If you're funny it's obvious you're joking and trash talk comes across as good humored, otherwise it just sounds angry. But if you're not gifted at humor it's damn hard to pull that off, and TG is clearly not gifted. He also didn't give any visual clues that he was joking, which combined with the absence of wit made it look like he was stone cold serious.
I think he shouldn't have been out in that position.
Lotta inner turmoil going on in Hawkeye Nation's message board...and I imagine elsewhere.
Inner turmoil? Nuh-uh...Where? The phones at 83% and I’m bored as f***. Please tell me where I can find it..Lotta inner turmoil going on in Hawkeye Nation's message board...and I imagine elsewhere.
I apologize if this has been stated but I didn't see it in the thread.
Why is Iowa not going back next year?[/QUOTE
I apologize if this has been stated but I didn't see it in the thread.
Why is Iowa not going back next year?
Per takedown wrestling radio the bar is being sold
Wow. Gilman was so caustic the owners decided to sell the business kick stock and barrel.
I have it from a reliable source that he reads the books first, then he goes back and buys the audiobook and listens with book in hand the 2nd time through and takes notes. Great for retention. Smart dude.Is it true Gilman doesn't read the books he hauls around? Word on the street is he listens to the audio books and has a book in hand claiming to read them. Guess he started doing this after an opponent said he wasn't to bright. Am I wrong? Gilman, can you answer this and shut those people up?
Is it true Gilman doesn't read the books he hauls around? Word on the street is he listens to the audio books and has a book in hand claiming to read them. Guess he started doing this after an opponent said he wasn't to bright. Am I wrong? Gilman, can you answer this and shut those people up?
Wow. Gilman was so caustic the owners decided to sell the business lock stock and barrel.
Actually, I agree. That learning technique is great for dyslexics.I have it from a reliable source that he reads the books first, then he goes back and buys the audiobook and listens with book in hand the 2nd time through and takes notes. Great for retention. Smart dude.
Lmao... I'm sure taking 4th at the latest tournament will shut up all the critics.
How should PD3 feel about you guys??The part about telling people that didn't like him before to FU is something I have thought he should feel the whole time. I would feel the exact same as him in the situation.
"Hey I hate you as a person but since your on my team now you are all right" a FU is what is deserved to that person.
However he wants to feel.How should PD3 feel about you guys??
He didn't? He lost to Richard Perry and a stud Russian in close bouts. He beat the other pretty handily. Perry is a stud as well.PDIII did not look good. Wait for the complete meltdown Iowa! We are all waiting. hahaha. Brands' last straw this season.
NoHe didn't? He lost to Richard Perry and a Stud Russian in close bouts. He beat the other pretty handily. Perry is a stud as well.
Pretty sure it's been for sale for awhile now. Maybe that's why there was such a late invitation.
Thought he looked alright. On par with a college kid that could win a title at 184.
Thought he looked alright. On par with a college kid that could win a title at 184.
You need to go listen to a Tony Robbins audible book or something yourself. Seem like you have some deep seeded issues boiling up on a rivals message board.
In an ironic twist, the Japs give this Gilman performance two thumbs up...
You do know he is not a Hawkeye? If becomes one, he will be the oldest Hawkeye ever. lolThought he looked alright. On par with a college kid that could win a title at 184.
You need to go listen to a Tony Robbins audible book or something yourself. Seem like you have some deep seeded issues boiling up on a rivals message board.