Handed a sure thing and couldn’t get a 4xer. It’s going to take a lot for the Hawks to overcome this.
Fire Brands
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Nothings a sure thing when you’ve gone through the physical toll that Spencer has gone through over the last six years.
Iowa consistently underperforms and this is inexcusable.
Gary Barta has turned Iowa sports into family business. I'm convinced the reason the Iowa women are the shining star right now is because no family ties mucking stuff up.
Year after year Iowa shits the bed at Nationals. This is fvcking disgusting. Brands can’t develop and he can’t prep.
The upside to a night like this, it gives me a chance to exercise the Ingore button on the knuckleheads that come out of the woodwork.
Who you got as replacement mouth-breathers?
We need to be poaching Caels coaching tree. Taylor to Iowa would be big.
If Barta wont fire Fran, he sure as hell isn’t going to fire Brands.
Does it matter? Christ we have no shot of beating Penn State WITH him at the helm.
Tom Brands won’t be fired but he needs to reassess everything around the program. Does he have the ability to admit the need to change things up?
I think Barta is a lame duck. I'm not sure he can fire anyone right now.
This. Only, Tom needs to be FORCED to evaluate everything. When he was hired to coach this program back he made a lot of promises. To say he’s underperformed is an understatement. Iowa wrestlers consistently wrestle at or below their seed. Penn State wrestlers always seem to wrestle well above their seed. Our wrestlers come NCAA time seem worn out or broken year after year. I don’t have an answer but I guarantee you Brands does and if he can’t get it done than move on.
It became pretty clear a few years ago the Brands does not belong in the same conversation that mentions Kale. I understand Pennsylvania recruits are the top of the heap. Who has improved? Surely there are some but many more disappointments. They need to go grab a Dake or one of the many PSU unicorns and try a new path. Ya we won recently but with a team of 25 year olds. Kales guys just keep winning.
Yeah people seem to forget that we won a national title in 2021 (and would have won it on 2020).
You are such a tool. That you even said "handed a sure thing" is evidence of your stupidity. You have obviously never been a top tier athlete in a demanding sport. You sure are a keyboard warrior though. Good for you.
A very tough end to an illustrious career. I don't know that he can physically make the move on to an international career. Only Spencer knows how far his knees can take him. Let's hope we see him going at it for a long time in freestyle. If not, Spencer is a logical choice for the future coach for the Hawkeyes. Maybe sooner rather than later?
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The good news is that we should have our pick of the bunch since presumably all the teams who finished 3rd - last will be firing their coaches or dropping the sport. It must have been the same way for all coaches who couldn’t beat Gable on his amazing run. They must have ALL SUCKED. It’s the only explanation, right?
I don’t recall winning one in 2020, and yes that’s my point. They’ve only seen one in their lifetime. Hanging your hat on one blip on the radar during their lifetime shows how far we are behind. @Gobblin you’re a smart guy, I figured you’d be able to make that inference. I’m sure you don’t care but I’m “Team Gobblin” in a couple of your other fights, fwiw.
The Duck has a long and glorious history of stupidity. He hasn't lost his "edge" at all.
You just to be overly negative. You’re usually very level headed and unemotional. I understood what you were trying to say, it it just seem relevant unless you were just pointing out how long it was between titles.
I think Brands does need to make a heavier weight adjustment and bring in a technique guru from outside the box. Kyle Dake might be the solution.
We were the best team in 2020 by a large margin and everyone knew it. We solidified that by winning in 2021.
Iowa is the second-best program right now and it's a big gap between us and number three. We aren't nearly as far off as some of you are claiming but I get the frustration right now. I am on board with changes to the middleweight and heavyweight coaches, but as others have mentioned, I think it really starts with recruiting. Some big name assistants like J'den or Nolf would help there too.
Nolf is my #1 target. And he and TnT have great relationship. Speak it into exsistence!
You’re right I am being overly emotional and negative. I can be that way sometimes and that’s a huge fault of mine, so I apologize.
Seeing Spencer get the ending he didn’t deserve coupled with having memories of: 1. our terrible injury history. 2. seeing how Marinelli’s career played out. 3. watching Kemmerer and Eierman lose Saturday night in ‘21 after just beating those Penn State guys a couple weeks prior. 4. Our performance when we hosted in Des Moines. THEN watching the asshole Penn State fans post complete garbage—emotions definitely got the better of me. Again I apologize (to everyone) for that.
