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Fran, postgame: "Some things happened in this game that I did not like"

It's amazing how it's almost always a "sky is falling" mentality here after every loss. Really shows how much the fanbase is football oriented. In basketball, losses and bad games happen--they happen in college, they happen in the NBA. Last year they had 9 of them and got a 5 seed. Anyways, some positives:
  • Iowa held Duke to ~10% below their offensive rebound rate
  • Kris/Connor held Filipowski to just 12 points on 33% shooting--he was clearly the focal point of the defensive scouting report.
  • Connor & Bowen both had 130+ ORtg--Bowen earned more minutes IMO
  • Just 7 turnovers (10% rate)
Some negatives:
  • Calling 2 guys out in particular for their defensive rotations: Patrick & Payton
    • Both guys also gave up ISO drives to Mitchell--they were both clearly outmatched
  • I don't need to even say this, but 18% 3 point shooting and 60% FT is abysmal
  • Team in general looked like they were forcing/rushing things last night, could be a credit to Duke's D, but like others have said there's now 2 good defensive tapes out there on Iowa.
Overall, Iowa is still (for those unfamiliar these are what is on the "team sheets" that the selection committee uses to seed/select teams into the tournament):
  • #22 on KenPom with the #6 AdjO in the country
  • #23 on BPI
  • #24 on SAG
  • #34 on NET
  • #35 on KPI
  • #43 in SOR
 
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Franisdaman said:
In the postgame radio show, Fran said this a couple times to Bobby Hansen: "Some things happened in this game that I did not like."

Anyone know what that means? Did he think there should have been more calls based on Duke's "physical" play?
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Since he didn't elaborate I think he was referring to the way the game was officiated. Holding and grabbing allowed by Duke. Goaltending going uncalled. Dasonte was grabbed and he was whistled for a foul and officials didn't review a single play. Officials refusing to talk to Fran but talking to Duke frequently. The off the ball action was pretty bad, especially against Kris. The officiating was one sided and Fran didn't like it but due to rules he cannot comment. Duke beat us fair and square but the officiating left a lot to be desired.
 
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Ihawkhoops said:
Iowa has 0 chance to beat anyone with a pulse if Kris and Tony are both off. Perkins had some good drives but couldn't finish. Kris was overmatched athletically (similar to TCU) and when the rest of the team can't make shots, it puts a lot of pressure on him.

Bowen is true combo scoring guard and needs more PT. Ulis is a tough defender but still can't shoot despite Fran telling us it was all about his wrist injury last year. Perkins isn't himself and appears to be pressing. Pmac is a bit like Joe T. One great play followed by a WTF play. Credit him for being aggressive last night when others folded their tents, but he has to learn to play under control.

It's time to throw Josh and Mulvey out there to see what they can do. Rebraca is a playing his ass off but it's not sustainable.
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Mulvey is ill and did not make the trip.
 
hooper56 said:
Since he didn't elaborate I think he was referring to the way the game was officiated. Holding and grabbing allowed by Duke. Goaltending going uncalled. Dasonte was grabbed and he was whistled for a foul and officials didn't review a single play. Officials refusing to talk to Fran but talking to Duke frequently. The off the ball action was pretty bad, especially against Kris. The officiating was one sided and Fran didn't like it but due to rules he cannot comment. Duke beat us fair and square but the officiating left a lot to be desired.
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That comes with the territory of playing Duke.
 
ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK said:
We got a fair shake by the refs. My God people.

It’s stupid how society ALWAYS blames the refs. 🤦🏽‍♂️
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Agreed. Basketball is extremely hard to officiate. A lot of 50/50 calls. They were fine last night. Fran needs to have his team learn how to win physical games. When you shoot like Iowa last night and get out rebounded it’s absolutely insane for Fran to make that comment when the fouls were even.
 
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RocknRollface said:
Seems about right.

After watching that game my impression was these teams would probably split 10 games 6/4 or 5/5
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We’re overmatched and outplayed historically when we play Duke. RocknRoll I respect your bball knowledge but I think we’d be lucky to beatthem 2 out 10. That team is still growing up. Now, if Perkins is 100% (I don’t think he is) and Kris plays as well as he can, you could be right. They just have so many athletes to throw at Kris it makes it tough.
 
hooper56 said:
Since he didn't elaborate I think he was referring to the way the game was officiated. Holding and grabbing allowed by Duke. Goaltending going uncalled. Dasonte was grabbed and he was whistled for a foul and officials didn't review a single play. Officials refusing to talk to Fran but talking to Duke frequently. The off the ball action was pretty bad, especially against Kris. The officiating was one sided and Fran didn't like it but due to rules he cannot comment. Duke beat us fair and square but the officiating left a lot to be desired.
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Here is the issue. The game was called the same from start to finish. The refs will do anything possible to get the number of fouls the almost the same for both teams. So if you don’t embrace the way the game is called you are at a disadvantage. We don’t grab, slap, and body but end up with the same number of fouls. This is first year coaching stuff not year 13. Disappointing.
 
I would assume he was frustrated with what appeared to be an insufficient effort rebounding/blocking out and defending balls screens poorly, which players can control. Sometimes shots don’t fall.
 
the24fan said:
Again how the hell does ISU out recruit us in basketball??
I just don't get it....
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You got me, my friend. I ask that same question. Iowa has so much better facilities and school. I don't get it.
I think, partly, it has to do with an apathetic athletic director.
 
GOHOX69 said:
Carver wasn't always dead. It's the stale product.
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So is it style of play? I cannot simply believe ISU outrecruits Iowa simply based on an arena?
That seems really stupid.
Seriously how can anyone think Lames is better than IC?
Is it the type of school that ISU is that gets them more basketball talent?
 
littlez said:
We’re overmatched and outplayed historically when we play Duke. RocknRoll I respect your bball knowledge but I think we’d be lucky to beatthem 2 out 10. That team is still growing up. Now, if Perkins is 100% (I don’t think he is) and Kris plays as well as he can, you could be right. They just have so many athletes to throw at Kris it makes it tough.
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Definitely not overmatched.

Just because Vital makes groaning noises when ever a Duke freshman makes a shot doesn't actually mean its impressive.

TCU was what overmatched physically looks like. Duke isn't in the same ballpark right now.

Iowa makes gimme layups and a decent freethrow percentage and this games a toss up. Forget Kris, doesn't even matter that he couldn't hit open shots.

I'll grant you that Duke is going to be much better in two months but I'm talking right now.
 
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the24fan said:
19% from three (3-16)??
Good God that stinks.
They shoot that bad consistently its going to be a long year. We don't have the size to bang on the inside. That's a disconcerting stat....
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Right but sample size matters.

Last year is a much bigger sample size of good outside shooting from Kris, Pat and Peyton vs this years bad.

Its possible that it doesn't find the level but its statistically unlikely.
 
GOHOX69 said:
Stop making excuses Fran. Seriously. Suck it up and do better. You are getting paid plenty.
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Can you point out what excuses Fran made? I thought he said he was unhappy with certain aspects of the game.... I never heard an excuse but you did, so please point them out specifically.
 
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the24fan said:
So is it style of play? I cannot simply believe ISU outrecruits Iowa simply based on an arena?
That seems really stupid.
Seriously how can anyone think Lames is better than IC?
Is it the type of school that ISU is that gets them more basketball talent?
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Style of play: you would think Frans style is attractive look what he did with Luka and Keagan. You put up numbers in his system.
Arena: I would think an awesome fan base is attractive.
Iowa City vs Ames: recruit probably doesn’t see much difference in limited visits.
School: they don’t care
 
GOHOX69 said:
Stop making excuses Fran. Seriously. Suck it up and do better. You are getting paid plenty.
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To be clear, (since I know you didn't actually watch the post-game presser or look up Fran's statements) Fran explicitly said rebounding and shooters missing open shots were a reason for the loss tonight. You are just assuming that his vague statement about "things happening" means he blamed the entire loss on the refs. Probably had something to do with the officiating, but it was a benign comment in and of itself.

But coaches can't even make benign comments in post-game pressers anymore without some keyboard warrior telling them that they suck.
 
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TheWatcherZKC said:
Style of play: you would think Frans style is attractive look what he did with Luka and Keagan. You put up numbers in his system.
Arena: I would think an awesome fan base is attractive.
Iowa City vs Ames: recruit probably doesn’t see much difference in limited visits.
School: they don’t care
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So again what are you telling me here? what is making ISU attractive?
 
the24fan said:
So again what are you telling me here? what is making ISU attractive?
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The only thing I have is Hilton>Carver. It’s not like Iowa State has had that much better teams than Iowa recently. Certainly jealous they have had a lot more success in the first weekend of the tourney though.
 
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the24fan said:
So again what are you telling me here? what is making ISU attractive?
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Face it,.. For some people it's nothing more than a "grass is greener syndrome",... ISU is on the other side of the fence.
 
TheWatcherZKC said:
JFC. They go to the tournament every year. It’s not the product it’s the fans. Hard to take it to the next level with our fan support I’ll give Fran that in recruiting. Wish he would figure out how to win ugly.
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It is the product. Fans are voting with their attendance. Fran’s teams have only finished once, last year with the BIG tourney, and that does not compare to a regular season conference title or deep ncaa runs.
 
hooper56 said:
You didn't like the 26 wins and big ten tournament championship? Seemed like a better than average product to me. By the way, what section are your tickets in for basketball?
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I have not gone to games since Davis left. I can watch paint dry at home.
 
hawkisak said:
And this is the way the NCAA tourney games are officiated. There may be a correlation with Iowa's struggles in the tourney and the type of whistle. Iowa is and always be a finesse team under Fran. I love the up and down free flowing style. Unfortunately, the physical grab and hold is widely accepted too.
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remember when there was supposed to be an emphasis on "freedom of movement?"
 
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Hawkfan_08 said:
We had the same amount of field goal attempts and made 3 fewer (-6 pts minimum)

Shot 18% from three and made 4 less three pointers (-12 points)

Shot 60% from the line while shooting 1 more free throw than Duke. (-2 points)

Got out rebounded by 10 (10 possessions given up)

There are a lot of points out there that were left on the table.
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Surprisingly the offensive rebounding was basically a wash. Given all of the misses on our end, we needed to win that battle.
 
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Anyone think the guard play was a bit ball hog. Seemed to me they tried to much driving the lane into 2 - 7' players and not passing off to an open player? Realize they want to carry the team but too many shots were blocked or turned over. And I realize Kris was tentative along with other shooters, but you still have to shoot to overcome that.
 
Hawkfan_08 said:
We had the same amount of field goal attempts and made 3 fewer (-6 pts minimum)

Shot 18% from three and made 4 less three pointers (-12 points)

Shot 60% from the line while shooting 1 more free throw than Duke. (-2 points)

Got out rebounded by 10 (10 possessions given up)

There are a lot of points out there that were left on the table.
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Iowa was +9 in second chance points (11-2).

Both Iowa and Duke scored 53 points from 2 point range + free throws.

The difference in the game was pretty glaringly clear to me: 3 point shooting.

2 point shots:
44 points (22-47 for 47%)Iowa
42 points (21-43 for 49%) Duke

3 point shots:
9 points (3-16 for 19%)Iowa
21 points (7-20 for 35%) Duke

Free Throws:
9 points (9-15 for 60%) Iowa
11 points (11-14 for 79%) Duke


2nd chance points:
2 Duke
11 Iowa

Offensive Rebounds:
11 Duke
9 Iowa
 
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Until Iowa plays a more physical defense these type games will just continue. Everyone knows if you are physical with Iowa they will fold. JMO
 
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badben44 said:
So what conference to you recommend get us ready for tough defense of the scary tournament.

Basketball is a sport that needs to see failure before moving forward. Duke already had their two loses. Now we can go back and figure shit out. Dukes lineup is enormous and they put a big good defender defender on Murray and were closing lanes with multiple 7 footers.

I cant imagine watching that game last night and be pissed at the way we played. This was not some shitty team and this was not a normal stage and shit happens. Shots fall sometimes sometimes they dont. Guy said that the 2 games dukes lost they shot like shit from 3. Same for us. Shocking.

KM has had some big number games but has not had that game where he dominates on a big stage against a team like duke that is there to stop him 1st and foremost. He has the superstar genes obviously they just need to switch on and once they are on they never go out.

There are two types of fans. Ones that complain and piss and moan and ones that can see what is going on and have the cognitive ability to understand how god damn hard it is to do all the things it takes to succeed and sometimes even with the best plan it does not work out. Shit works out waaaay more than not since Fran took over and ill keep watching and cheers because it good basketball done64 the right way with good kids.
If you dont like that statement go ahead and please dont watch Thursday. Go find something else to bitch about.
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hooper56 said:
On some of those, the shooter's elbow/arm was slapped, which is why the shot was airballed.
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interesting. Neither the players or Fran reacted like that. I guess you had a better angle
 
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