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From gambling allegations to this---Cody Chittum be gone? What's next?

We can just agree to
To be CLEAR TO ALL, I am NOT saying that many of the TNT criticisms are unwarranted. Most are. What I have issue with is those calling for their replacement WITHOUT a clear candidate that can do as well, let alone achieve the nearly impossible task of dethroning PSU.

Mind you, even if you think DT is a Gable/Cael like ''generational coach", he hasn't done a THING as a DI coach. Remember, NEITHER Gable nor Sanderson were given Iowa or PSU without first gaining coaching experience at the DI level. On top of that, he is still competing. At the very least you make sure he is done and 100% dedicated to coaching before you even consider that hire...
if you’re waiting for a clear replacement with equal credentials to TnT, in a world where only about 4 schools can challenge PSU, you’ll have Brands until 2035. The only schools that will ever have 3/10 year title successes will be at schools they’ll never leave in the first place.
 
I do not think money is an issue at all with Chittum. Maybe pride or ego, but not money.

The more I think about this, he might legitimately have a better chance to achieve his goals at ISU. When I saw the news, I figured it had to be politics or $, but maybe it really was a wrestling decision. It pains me to say that, but he will have Carr, DSJ, and Metcalf as guys around his weight, and that really trumps who we have in those spots.

Lugo, Eierman, Woods, and Morningstar have combined for 0 NCAA titles.
 
If none of the sports car brothers are coming, or only Angelo at the most, why still leave? Has to be more to the story.
The newspaper article said he didn't want to be on the same team as the Ferraris after mentioning Anthony's commitment and plans to join Iowa wrestling rubbed him the wrong way. Chittum didn't go into any details.

@smalls103 on his Intermat forum indicated others would likely follow suit, if the Ferraris join the program.

It's probably unfair and perhaps unwise to label Chittum as a NIL $ seeker, captive of his father's preferences, destined wanderer, or fearer of room competition, given his stated reason. He shouldn't need to risk libel by providing specifics.

And if in the future he proves himself ahead of an issue, to which other Iowa wrestlers follow, then it would look pretty silly to ascribe similar motives to those who may follow his lead.
 
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I don’t see anything wrong with him choosing to find teammates he felt shared his values. If the opposite can be true, quality people attract quality (Spencer with Kem and Murin) what is wrong with someone choosing not to wrestle with possible future teammates they know don’t share their own morals?
Speaking of are all of the PSU wrestlers anti-muslim or just Brooks.
 
He can be judged by his words.
If I understand his beliefs correctly, the judgment he would be concerned with would be between his God and himself (not men such as yourself). So when it comes to your take, it's 'no harm, no foul,' as far as I'm concerned.

A public profession of one's faith to the exclusion of other faiths is not quite the same thing as being anti-other faiths. That's would be a conclusion drawn from insufficient evidence, perhaps tainted by one's own biases.

That said, I wouldn't have said what he said in that moment. But that'd be my choice, and this country values freedom of speech (to the exclusion of hate speech).
 
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Every pro athlete that sat out or demanded a trade was loaded either way. But sometimes the money thing becomes a sign of respect thing.
sure. i get that. i just don't see it in Cody/the family's character to worry one iota about that. and it certainly didn't have anything to do with why he decommitted from Minny.

i don't know all the details, but i find it very very difficult to believe it was about money and the only people that are saying that is one or two anonymous message board posters.
 
If I understand his beliefs correctly, the judgment he would be concerned with would be between his God and himself (not men such as yourself). So when it comes to your take, it's 'no harm, no foul,' as far as I'm concerned.

A public profession of one's faith to the exclusion of other faiths is not quite the same thing as being anti-other faiths. That's would be a conclusion drawn from insufficient evidence, perhaps tainted by one's own biases.

That said, I wouldn't have said what he said in that moment. But that'd be my choice, and this country values freedom of speech (to the exclusion of hate speech).
I don't really hold any animosity to Brooks. He's probably a decent guy. I suspect his statement comes more from a place of ignorance rather than malice. But there is a fine line that one is walking with these types of statements.
 
I don't really hold any animosity to Brooks. He's probably a decent guy. I suspect his statement comes more from a place of ignorance rather than malice. But there is a fine line that one is walking with these types of statements.
A fine line sure, but you were using it in an attempt to disparage/connect to all of PSU wrestling. It's nice that a couple of Hawks called you out.
 
Yes, it was and they still haven’t been able to recover at 125.

Thankfully for them, Carl doesn’t fumble very often.
When Cael fumbles, there is usually an elite backup (top 10 p4p or AA transfer) more often than not.
 
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It certainly has been a disappointing Spring. There was a lot of talent in the portal and we pretty much lost every battle. It is great to get VV but losses of Truax and Nagao after it looked like we had reasons for optimism hurt. Then the loss of our best recruit since Spencer is like salt in the wound. Ayala hurt, and possibly leaving? Pretty good chance we don’t get the Ferraris (certainly may be a blessing).

While the cabinets certainly are not bare, we are not challenging for a championship anytime soon. The wrestlers in the starting lineup are far from what we hoped they would be 1 1/2 months ago. I’m a bit depressed and need another beer. 🙁
 
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The more I think about this, he might legitimately have a better chance to achieve his goals at ISU. When I saw the news, I figured it had to be politics or $, but maybe it really was a wrestling decision. It pains me to say that, but he will have Carr, DSJ, and Metcalf as guys around his weight, and that really trumps who we have in those spots.

Lugo, Eierman, Woods, and Morningstar have combined for 0 NCAA titles.

If ISU was a good place for middle weights they’d have shining examples of development. Even Carr has stagnated and he would be a stud anywhere.
 
In another thread (maybe?) It was mentioned that Dad Chittum shopped around for NIL deals and ISU had a better one. TB said, "no thanks" to the Chittum clan, after that.
Nope. Not even close. NIL had nothing to do with this.
 
Why is it so hard for people to believe that TNT screwed up by trying to bring a family into the program that other families and individuals didn’t want to be involved with?

NIL had nothing to do with Nagao’s not being in Iowa City, because the hawks offered him more than anyone.

NIL has nothing to do with Chittum’s leaving Iowa City.

TNT screwed around and found out and were this close to losing more guys.
 
Why is it so hard for people to believe that TNT screwed up by trying to bring a family into the program that other families and individuals didn’t want to be involved with?

NIL had nothing to do with Nagao’s not being in Iowa City, because the hawks offered him more than anyone.

NIL has nothing to do with Chittum’s leaving Iowa City.

TNT screwed around and found out and were this close to losing more guys.
Not much visibility in the sand.
 
Why is it so hard for people to believe that TNT screwed up by trying to bring a family into the program that other families and individuals didn’t want to be involved with?

NIL had nothing to do with Nagao’s not being in Iowa City, because the hawks offered him more than anyone.

NIL has nothing to do with Chittum’s leaving Iowa City.

TNT screwed around and found out and were this close to losing more guys.
We have many on here who think TNT can do no wrong.
 
Others have said Anthony did not get past admissions and is not going to be a Hawk now and Angelo has not committed either. AJ is not really even a possibility currently. Why would Chittum flip his commit based on something that hasn't happened? There has to be more to his flip than the possibility of Anthony coming to Iowa as it doesn't sound like that is happening anyway. Find it hard to believe a recruit is too "all in" if he flips from the possibility of another guy he wants nothing to do with joining the team. If none of the sports car brothers are coming, or only Angelo at the most, why still leave? Has to be more to the story.
Perhaps, it's as simple as he doesn't want to be a part of a team that would even attempt to bring in kids like the Ferrari's?
 
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Why is it so hard for people to believe that TNT screwed up by trying to bring a family into the program that other families and individuals didn’t want to be involved with?

NIL had nothing to do with Nagao’s not being in Iowa City, because the hawks offered him more than anyone.

NIL has nothing to do with Chittum’s leaving Iowa City.

TNT screwed around and found out and were this close to losing more guys.
I never paid much attention to the Ferrari stuff prior to this but as a Pa. guy I've been around idiots like this.
I make any contact brief. Why anyone would consider a man accused to sexual assault and has other problems is beyond me. Two months ago I was trust the coaches but honestly barely knew these guys.
I dug a little and courting these guys is a bad idea. If they only had bad attitudes that would be enough to pass them by, but it appears beyond that .
 
Nope. Not even close. NIL had nothing to do with this.
200.webp
 
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Why is it so hard for people to believe that TNT screwed up by trying to bring a family into the program that other families and individuals didn’t want to be involved with?

NIL had nothing to do with Nagao’s not being in Iowa City, because the hawks offered him more than anyone.

NIL has nothing to do with Chittum’s leaving Iowa City.

TNT screwed around and found out and were this close to losing more guys.
Nagoa got more at PSU. Carl tells his boys to under play the dough and over play "fun" to burnish the image.

Tom didn't screw up Chittum. It was tenuous at best. The first match he loses at ISU might trigger another transfer.

Don't get me wrong, it was worth it to try, but the Dad will never settle down
 
A lot of people twisting themselves into knots to not understand the simple reality: the Ferrari's really are THAT toxic. Guys do not want to be around them and the coaches recruiting them is impacting confidence in the staff.

Chittum in particular has been a Ferrari teammate before. It ended with them getting kicked out of school. He's not interested in round 2 and I don't blame him.
 
The Chittum family will play up the Ferrari angle all day long. It makes them look like the ones who were wronged (as they move on to yet another program).

People want to cast stones at the Ferrari's, and they are a risky proposition for TnT to take on... but so was Chittum with his family history.

ISU can have him... they are perfect for each other.
 
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