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I absolutely think we have pieces to do better than we are. I also don't know if we need a 3 point "specialist". Kris has a pretty dang good stroke and can do MUCH more, just needs more minutes. I'm good with trying to get Sandfort some minutes, but Kris needs more.
Oh i agree kris needs more time. But imo kris and sandfort shouldn’t be competing for that time. Sandfort is a 2-3 and kris should be playing the 3-5 depending on matchups. Sandfort should be taking minutes from jbo, and connor and pat
 
I’ve been saying that Bohannon needs to come off the bench and play about 15 minutes a game against other teams’ backups, where he will almost undoubtedly thrive. Come in and chuck for all I care. Another thing that won’t ever happen
I don't know if him playing off the ball will work in general.

Hes really only effective with the ball.

The more I think about it I would bring him off the bench for short spurts, with or without the other pgs in and designate a few possessions a "quarter" as JBO bring the ball up and try to shoot plays.

It might catch the defense off guard.

They have to do something different with him because he's not a 2guard.
 
I don't know if him playing off the ball will work in general.

Hes really only effective with the ball.

The more I think about it I would bring him off the bench for short spurts, with or without the other pgs in and designate a few possessions a "quarter" as JBO bring the ball up and try to shoot plays.

It might catch the defense off guard.

They have to do something different with him because he's not a 2guard.
Yeah I don’t really have the answer other than Toussaint needs to be averaging 30 minutes per game with Ulis getting the other 10 at PG, and the other 5 at off guard. 20 per game for Perkins, 15 for Bohannon
 
We lose no matter what tonight but my goodness Wisconsin couldn’t miss a shot.

Other random thoughts:

- I hate Wisconsin.
- Davison is a POS.
- Keegan as always was great but the team needs to target him even more. He’s so much better than anyone else.
- I hate Wisconsin.
- JT was pretty good tonight. Much better than Perkins and Ulis.
- I hate Wisconsin.
- Ribraca just doesn’t do it for me. Give Josh O more minutes. Not saying don’t play or start Ribraca but Josh should get a few minutes here and there.
- I still support Fran and hope we can be a tourney team.
- I hate Wisconsin.
Mostly concerned about how @Chishawk1425 complained non stop about the team in the game thread and called our team pathetic but yet started a thread early this week about how lame it was that the fans hated the team and coaching. @Franisdaman
 
I don't think PMAC has a position.

Sticking a 6'9 guy at the 3 is is what we went through when Fran tried to play Whitey and Uthoff (and even Nunge) at the 3...those guys couldn't defend perimeter playersvery well in man and we ended up having to zone. All those guys were at least above average rebounders....PMAC doesn't block shots like Uthoff did nor rebound very well and he seems to back away from mixing it up inside.

Uthoff and Whitey ultimately had their best years at PF....unfortuately, I don't think PMAC is willing to compete inside and rebound like you need for a PF.

CMAC doesn't have a position because he has perimeter player size but no perimeter shooting/dribble drive skills

JBO doesn't have a position because he can't defend and his offense is best suited for him having the ball in his hands as a PG instead of running off screens. Unless the opposing team forgets to guard him,
Thats well said.

It's why neither one of them should be starters in the big ten.

Patrick may at some point be able to effectively play the 3 if he decides to work hard at his defense and go after rebounds but right now he's not there.
 
Well we need a 3pt specialist, fran is just playing the wrong one. At this point sandfort should be playing more. He looks the part, moves well without the ball, good size, solid defense. Just needs minutes to settle in. To me that’s what’s the most frustrating part, i feel like we have good pieces this year but Fran just cannot figure out how to put them together. He has always struggled to push the right buttons at the right times IMO
Agree, this team has very good pieces.

It's very frustrating we all see it.
 
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I'm done with Fran, he could care less about playing his best players the most minutes and instead once he makes up his mind on who he wants as his starters at the beginning of the season he make no changes unless there's and injury.
Rebraca is not a center and never will be. His only offensive skill is an occasional shot near the basket when he's guarded by smaller or similar sized players.
It's obvious that JBO is having an awful time dealing with playing the 2 position and as much as he is trying to play that position, he needs the ball in his hands to be a scorer.
Frans hockey line changes are terrible, not only does it slows down the offense but it stymie's the defense as well.
Fran's going to have to bite the bullet and play Ogundele and Mulvey whether they have the experience or not and play Rebraca as a second team power forward giving Keegan a breather when needed, that's all he's good for.
After this season Keegan might as well declare for the NBA because there's no chance that his sticking around for another year will change what appears the same fate as the last 12 years have been.
I have no idea what goes on during an Iowa practice, but it's quite obvious that Fran and his assistants aren't getting the job done and as they are an experience coaching staff don't seem to have good idea what's going on either.
Either Fran needs to go or he needs to bring in some new assistants to change the culture of this stagnate program. Same shit every year!
 
If Connor goes on a Mormon 2-year mission and comes back and Jack moves up a class, I think we can get it done.
Just need to figure out how to get adopted son JBO a 7th year and they're in business.

Wouldn't even need a 5th player.
 
How people can still be pro-Fran at this point is beyond me. ISU was 2-22 last year and is now a Top 10 team after losing 90% of their roster and rebuilding via the portal. Fran, with access to the same portal, nets Rebraca who is undersized and overmatched against pedestrian post players.

Next to the guards. Does anyone see development in Joe T. or Ulis? Fran rationalized his portal laziness by touting Jbo's return and Mulvey reclassifying. How is that working out? Jbo, against even token defense, is incapable of getting a shot off and is a defensive liability. Mulvey and Josh sit while Iowa gets destroyed on the glass and Connor logs mega minutes despite being average on defense and ZERO threat to score.

This season is lost. Time to look to the future with less Jbo and Connor and more Sandfort, Perkins, Kris, Mulvey and Josh.
 
Last year was at the peak. We had the national player of the year, but we are always limited by poor coaching on game day. Keegan is a great player, but this team can’t defend or rebound so we will not make the tournament. I’m afraid this program is on the way down under Fran.
What is amazing to me is how this team has the boys in Vegas fooled. We go into Ames as a 5 point favorite. Last night we go into Madison as only a 3 point underdog. I hate to bet against Iowa, but they are making it too easy not to.
 
I don't know if him playing off the ball will work in general.

Hes really only effective with the ball.

The more I think about it I would bring him off the bench for short spurts, with or without the other pgs in and designate a few possessions a "quarter" as JBO bring the ball up and try to shoot plays.

It might catch the defense off guard.

They have to do something different with him because he's not a 2guard.
Bohannon back for 6th year and playing off the ball exclusively, neither was a good idea. I said so back to last year. For a variety of reasons. As you said, what has made Bohannon good was having the ball in his hands, where he's a threat to shoot if team doesn't play him properly. He's also a very good passer. But having him off the ball just means he doesn't get open very easily against good defense.

This team will likely figure it out to an extent and play better than what they put out there last night. But probably somewhere between 6 and 8 wins in conference.
 
The most frustrating part about Fran (the list is long), is his team's lack of toughness and hustle. Iowa is not talented enough to not be diving and giving max effort for every 50/50 ball. Instead they stand around and watch the other team rebound, hoping to get an easy outlet pass. Fran plays 9/10 guys and not a single one will crash the boards, because they know, if they get 2 fouls they are riding the bench. If you are playing this many players, everyone should be contesting EVERY defensive rebound.

Fran's teams consistently stand around and watch as more talented teams out hustle them.
 
Bohannon back for 6th year and playing off the ball exclusively, neither was a good idea. I said so back to last year. For a variety of reasons. As you said, what has made Bohannon good was having the ball in his hands, where he's a threat to shoot if team doesn't play him properly. He's also a very good passer. But having him off the ball just means he doesn't get open very easily against good defense.

This team will likely figure it out to an extent and play better than what they put out there last night. But probably somewhere between 6 and 8 wins in conference.
A lot of my optimism for this season went away when I found out JBO and Connor were coming back.

Its playing out pretty much like what I was afraid of.

This would have been a far more interesting team without them.
 
From this thread it appears that they guys that are playing should play less and the guys that aren't playing should play more. We've also learned that Iowa doesn't rebound well or play defense. Oh, and Fran can't coach.

I will add doesn't shoot well to the list. Keegan helps the FG % stat line a lot.

While I agree with most of it, I see a lot of time spent on rotation and minutes - I believe that is similar to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Bottom line - this is just not a very good B1G team. W's are going to be hard to come by the rest of the way.
 
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What scares me is that Bohannon switched over to PG late and made some threes. If that becomes a thing again, I may change my stance on McCaffery - which is supportive, despite his substitution patterns

Chucky Hepburn played 31 minutes tonight as a freshman. Why can’t we get that from Toussaint? Even 25, then the remainder to Ulis?
I get what you’re sayin, but it’s becoming clear that JBo can’t get his shot off playing the 2. If he’s going to be playing, I think I’d rather have him playing point guard, at least then he is a threat.
 
Forgot to add another point, our rebounding is frustrating as just about anything I’ve ever seen. If Mulvey can help then play him, but I don’t know what can help our rebounding at this point.
The only thing that will help our rebounding significantly is hitting the weight room. PM is beyond weak, PR can't handle BIG play and the Murray twins while athletic still get pushed around and need to add some strength. They have been boxing out better but these guys get moved so easily they can't even get the boards even if they put a body on someone.
 
I'm done with Fran, he could care less about playing his best players the most minutes and instead once he makes up his mind on who he wants as his starters at the beginning of the season he make no changes unless there's and injury.
Rebraca is not a center and never will be. His only offensive skill is an occasional shot near the basket when he's guarded by smaller or similar sized players.
Everyone rags on Rebracca. However, he is averaging around 15 pts and 15 rebounds per 40 minutes. Both Kris and Patrick average around 20 pts/40 and Kris gets 11 rb/40 and patrick 5 or 6 per 40 minutes. Oh, Filip shoots 58% fg also.
I agree he is undersized at center. Either play him more or let Mulvey and O get 10/15 minutes per game.
 
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Last year was more frustrating, with two NBA draft picks, including POY, getting blown out in round of 32 by a team that then got blown out in Sweet 16.

This season, Iowa is unlikely to make the NCAA tournament with an NBA top-ten pick who is playing great.

Fran will end up being one of the only coaches at a Power 5 conference school in the 21st century to coach 15 plus years at the same school, and never win a conference title nor make a Sweet 16.

I have accepted that Fran will be allowed to coach at Iowa until his 9th grade son finishes at Iowa. At least 7 more years. Not hard to tune out on occasion given the situation.
I missed the game last night and honestly didn't even realize they were playing. No way that happens in the past with me and Iowa Hoops...I agree the apathy thing is real. I'm already there. Tired of watching the same bad product under FM.
 
Wasn't Rebraca supposed to be able to spread the floor? I thought he could at least shoot the mid range shot.
 
I get what you’re sayin, but it’s becoming clear that JBo can’t get his shot off playing the 2. If he’s going to be playing, I think I’d rather have him playing point guard, at least then he is a threat.
You might be right, but I’m not sure how I feel about taking minutes from Toussaint or Ulis or making Ulis play heavily off guard when he is part of the future at point guard. Toussaint brings far more to the table than Jordan at PG. Bohannon was brought back to shoot as an off-guard. If he can’t do that, then he should see reduced minutes
 
I absolutely think we have pieces to do better than we are. I also don't know if we need a 3 point "specialist". Kris has a pretty dang good stroke and can do MUCH more, just needs more minutes. I'm good with trying to get Sandfort some minutes, but Kris needs more.
I tend to agree with the above, but I do not feel like FM has the skill or desire to leverage his players strengths. IMO he throws them out there says "go out score them". I personally cannot think of one thing FM's team do every year consistently and with success.
 
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