They must have read my posts saying that he doesn't pass the eye test.Well the staff just let a 4 time Cali state champ walk. Yea there are issues there academically but you have to think that they have a plan. Maybe I'll just ask Tom when I see him next time
Full court press on Teske?
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Well the staff just let a 4 time Cali state champ walk. Yea there are issues there academically but you have to think that they have a plan. Maybe I'll just ask Tom when I see him next time
I was going to say, there is no way this was a $ issue, has to be academic.
Oh, ho, ho, irony! Oh, no, no, we don't get that here. See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at.
It was known that Clark wouldn't be able to hold 25 for long. There was actually some speculation of him ending up at 41 before it was all done.
Yeah, looks like you were spot on Chief. First one to catch that preemptively.
Spooner told us all about mejia all along. All bow to sir spooner. True inside info at all times.
I was in no way inferring that I claimed this to be the case first. I was just saying that he didn't run back to Illinois simply because there was a better offer.
That would seem logical if PSU had a hole at 25 or 33 in that class. I hope he sees that clearly & joins the good guys.
I think this is the plan, for Spencer to wrestle both weights at the same time. I expect that he will pin or tech everyone at both weights, and be the first 8 time NCAA champ.
If money is an issue I'm not sure going to psu wouldn't be possible. I can't imagine they would be able to offer a better deal then Iowa.
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Ppppfffttt... Hahahaha!!!
Yep. No way there's anything left in the coffers out there.
That said, you just never know when a wealthy uncle might come on the scene. Lots of wealthy uncles in PA, it seems.
Uncle WWDM? Brody needs some cashYep. No way there's anything left in the coffers out there.
That said, you just never know when a wealthy uncle might come on the scene. Lots of wealthy uncles in PA, it seems.
I am not in the camp that both Teske and Lee are 125 for life. No way. I recently saw Teske and he looks very young and his body is still immature. Very few guys hold 125 for more than a few years. I remember reading about Wagner being a 125, he wrestled 133 last year, same with Rathbon or when Boston wrestled 113 his senior year in HS and then he committed to ISU and everyone said he's too small and he's wrestled 141 his second year--I think. Lee has a redshirt, has already earned an Olympic Redshirt, so that gives the guys great flexibility. I think that by the time Teske wrestled in college which could be 31 months or more than 2.5 years from now(at the NCAA) his redshirt freshman year he will be at 133 and be a title threat after wrapping up his second year in the best room for light weights anywhere.
If you are looking for it, the Kitchen sink is located in Spencer Lee and Jacob Warner's apartment.
I still think when it's all said and done we see Teske in the black singlet... The Teskes are a Hawkeye family ... I've known his father since junior high ... Even if ISU was able to offer more money, the opportunities for Brody at Iowa (training partners, coaching, and being fans of the Hawkeyes) will win out ... ANYTHING is possible when it comes to recruiting but I think in the end Brody dons the black singlet ...
I think we should, and are, going hard after him. While we can't have the "iowa blinders" on, I think it's important to maintain an Iowa connection and have some strong Iowa ties on the starting roster, obviously provided they're good enough to be NCAA title threats. Iowa doesn't pump out enough high level wrestlers to have a starting line up full of Iowans, but the ones that are good enough should by and large be on Iowa's roster, and they are thusfar.
After this season, we only have Cash Wilcke as a likely Iowan starter, and I don't think his ceiling is terribly high, though I know some of you do. Teske would be a great get for us to slot in wherever Spencer Lee doesn't go at the bottom two weights. I think he'll be really good at the D1 level.
Beyond this season, our lineup projects to be:
125: Pennsylvania
133: ???
141: Illinois/Iowa/Pennsylvania
149: ???
157: Pennsylvania
165: Ohio
174: Pennsylvania
184: Iowa
197: Illinois
HWT: Illinois
Basically, I think Teske is more valuable than even his talent level, which is substantial on it's own merit.
After this season, we only have Cash Wilcke as a likely Iowan starter, and I don't think his ceiling is terribly high, though I know some of you do. Teske would be a great get for us to slot in wherever Spencer Lee doesn't go at the bottom two weights. I think he'll be really good at the D1 level.
Beyond this season, our lineup projects to be:
125: Pennsylvania
133: ???
141: Illinois/Iowa/Pennsylvania
149: ???
157: Pennsylvania
165: Ohio
174: Pennsylvania
184: Iowa
197: Illinois
HWT: Illinois
Basically, I think Teske is more valuable than even his talent level, which is substantial on it's own merit.
Yeah, but does Penn State have any available scholarship money to dole out and is Nick Suriano going to be there for another 3 years?
Before I get crushed, relax, I'm just joking! I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist.
True, totally forgot about Lugo. Stupid by me, since I live in Florida, so I know exactly who he is.
Have you been reading these posts. It sounds like there really isn't a scholarship limit in wrestling. They all have 9 1/2 scholarships on the board and then unlimited money in wrestling clubs. They can pay thousands of dollars to recruits to help out in summer camp programs and then pay off any college loans after graduation. Not monitored like basketball and football. In wrestling you can and do buy recruits and the NCAA looks the other way!
Where at? I lived in the Ocala area as a young child and my grandmother lives by Tampa now
I don't think riding the pine for 4 years and getting pounded on a regular basis will make someone the best possible wrestler he can be. There is a lot to be said for competing each week and having an attainable goal as opposed to being second string. Not being the best in your spot and not having a chance to compete as a part of a team wears on people and can be very destructive to a guy reaching his potential. That is something I would want my son to factor into his college decision.
Sometimes Iowa is not the best place for a kid to reach his potential. Sure, if he doesn't mind taking his daily beating and failing on a regular basis and he just wants to test himself against Lee every day, Iowa may be the best place for him. If his goal in life is to make Lee the best wrestler he can make him, then Iowa may be the best place for him. If he wants a shot at his dream, I am sure a lot of places can help him.
Iam not saying that if he came to Iowa, he would not grow as a person and have many life shaping and changing moments. I am sure he would. I am saying he may not reach his potential at Iowa because riding the pine has a lot of negative effects on some people.
I agree with an earlier post that Teske is not a life time 125. I was in Iowa City last week and he was there and I agree that he has not physically matured yet and looked very young. I would go as far to make a friendly wager with you lookleftgoright with the proceeds going to the HWC that Teske is not and will not be a career 125 and I’m not a betting man, but I don’t think this is a bet, it’s taking money and giving it to the HWC.
There is also something to be said with a young man wrestling with Spencer Lee, Matt McDonough, Cory Clark, Dan Gilman, Jesse Delgado, Perez Perez, Max Murin, among others. ISU has nowhere hear the partners. If Teske wants the best chance to realize his potential, it is in exactly the place with the best partners and let’s not forget about two very good light weight coaches in Tom and Terry. In those names above there are all levels of wrestlers, it really is a perfect room. Riding the pine, I don’t think so, and with that thought I’m going to go out on the limb here, and no I’m not betting on this one, but I am going to make a prediction… that if Lee is healthy and nothing goes wrong with his recovery that we see him on the mat this year. He is a competitor and I believe he will want to put the shoes on and wrestle. I know the arguments against, which is why I’m not betting on this as a sure thing, but since Teske riding the pine is a glass half empty and ISU hopeful approach that I’m sure is being used to try to get Teske to take the road less traveled and the “less risky path” to his choice of schools, let’s play out another scenario that is also conjecture, but from another possible, but in my opinion a far more likely scenario.
Let’s make the assumption that Teske does not grow into 133 as fast as I or others expect him to do, much like most 18-20-year-old men do… and he does need more time...
2017-2018 – Lee wrestles as a true freshman, Teske wrestles his senior year in high school
2018-2019 – Lee wrestles his true sophomore year – Teske red shirts and lets Iowa’s strength program get ahold of him. I’ve seen what Rutt can do and he’s good at what he does, but in the spirit of "going along with the Teske doesn't grow' prospective and lookleftandgoright is more right than I think in his opinion that Teske is so small that an additional 2 full years and an increase in testosterone and even Rutt can’t get him large enough …. (I don’t think so…, but let’s keep this going)
2019-2020 – Lee takes his Olympic Red Shirt year and focuses on freestyle and attempts to make the Olympic team. This might be a good step if the weight is 55Kg and he has to focus a little on shedding weight, since 121 will not be an easy cut for Lee either. I saw him lifting at Carver last week as well and Rutt has worked his magic on him and he is much bigger than he was in high school. But, with Lee taking an Olympic shirt, Teske wrestles in 2019-2020 (if Teske can still make the weight at 125)
2020-2021 – Lee takes his red shirt year that he hasn’t used yet to bask in the glory of his Olympic Gold medal and helps the HWC and let’s Rutt put the weight back on that he shredded to make 121, because like most young men Lee is going to get bigger as well and has gotten bigger this year already) Teske wrestles his second year at 125, but now is struggling to make the weight and is spending more time worried about cutting than wrestling, but makes it happen one more year and one last time at the NCAA Championships where he continues the tradition of Iowa dominance at 125 and wins an NCAA title.
2021-2022 – Lee returns and wrestles 125 and Teske four full years later is a solid 133 and they both win a national title at the bottom two weights, because iron sharpens iron and those blades are razor sharp by now, because they both want to wrestle the best partners in the best room and rather than taking the less riskier route they believe that with great risk comes great reward and they both reap the rewards of being in the best room possible.
This is all conjecture, but so is thinking that Lee and Teske are fixed in their growth rate. I don’t have a clue if Lee wrestles or shirts this year, whether or not he takes an Olympic Shirt or not, a redshirt or not, but look at the flexibility built into the Iowa system that no one at Iowa State has, so if they want to work it out, they sure can. Like the earlier examples, there are many wrestlers that come in thinking they are going to be 125 for life and then end up at 141 or 149. No one knows, but if you play the odds, the odds are in favor of Teske growing into a solid 133 sometime over the next 5-years.
That is a very optimistic projection and if it played out that way, then Iowa would probably be the best place for him. Assuming he fits with the culture and thrives in that environment etc. etc. etc.
My point was more trying to point out that going somewhere and not being "THE MAN" can have adverse effects on a guy and hurt his growth. No one argues with the coaches and the work out partners at Iowa.
Please be aware, I am not trying to say anything negative about the Hawks. My point was, when you are the number 2 guy at your weight, you don't usually reach your potential. Fans of the guy who sat behind Mena for 3 years and then won it as a redshirt senior in his first time in the line up may disagree with me.
I agree that Teske has plenty of upside and time to grow into 133 given the outline above! However, If in the worst case, even Tom Ryan and Kevin Dresser might disagree with you regarding being in the right room, sitting and waiting for your chance and still being able to achieve your potential. They both sat and then won at a high leve! It seems to have turned out okay for them. Who knows, they go somewhere else, start right away and maybe never win...
I can understand that. I am just saying it is not cut and dry that Iowa is the best place for him. It may very well be. If he bleeds Black and Gold, then he won't be happy anywhere else, chances are. That is also an angle to examine. Luckily for me, I don't have to make those decisions anymore or really ever for that matter.
I actually live in Ocala, funnily enough. A bunch of my family lives in the Tampa/Clearwater area, which is where I anticipate ending up.
Maybe I'm in the minority but money wouldn't matter if it was my kid. I'm not rich (not even close) but my wife and I do fairly good.
I'm sure Teske has National Championship goals as well as Olympic goals.
It's in state tuition. He grew up a Hawkeye fan. I take on the extra debt and send my kid to the best place to fulfill his dreams/goals.
I'm sure Teske has National Championship goals as well as Olympic goals.
It's in state tuition. He grew up a Hawkeye fan. I take on the extra debt and send my kid to the best place to fulfill his dreams/goals.
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