I was joking. Relax. Of course rankings mean something. Ohio State didn't play in their conference championship game and they still finished the season ranked higher than both teams that did.
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I was joking. Relax. Of course rankings mean something. Ohio State didn't play in their conference championship game and they still finished the season ranked higher than both teams that did.
It does not matter if you were or not. The point(s) remain.
More importantly, you have been asked on multiple occasions to find a new place to waste your time. You almost made it once, but the obsession was too strong for you to withstand.
You have no credibility at all here. Give it up. Head back to CR/CF were you will be revered for your 'knowledge' on all matters relating to the University of Iowa Hawkeyes.
Pitt got beat by Miami who was worse than the Arkansas team Toledo beat. I'll just trust the coaches and AP voters opinion on this one though
The coaches and AP voters clearly thought Iowa to be better than all of the teams you have mentioned. Arkansas was only good enough to stand right next to mighty Toledo in the 'also receiving votes' categories of those two polls.
Oh, and isu was the worst of any mentioned here. Imagine that!
Really, did not know it was that many, what was their record in those 12 games? Not being a jerk, just wondering.
Better than isu's record against OU.
Must ignore, of course isu grads demand we ignore that.
I never said Pittsburgh was good and Toledo wasn't. I said they were comparable and that I didn't see where all these extra wins from Iowa State were going to come from. Less than a point difference in Sagarin backs that up.
Famous last words from the isu faithful here on HR.... coulda, shoulda, woulda.
Only 125 years of history to show differently. The Law of Averages says you might be closer to being on target one of these years. Keep hoping.
Miami was better than any school Toledo beat last year beside you one. Try again turd nugget.
I thought ISU fans were smarter than this.
5, still waiting for the answer to the next iowa coach and his what his salary will be? As for the 125 years comment, if that makes you sleep better at night, great, but let me ask, "how does it feel to be losing to a school with such a horrible football history?" I know you will through out the all time record and what not, but you paid a coach over 4 million last year, that has a losing record to one of the bottom teams schools in the history of NCAA football over his 17 years as head coach at Iowa.
When I look at he series record I see that Iowa isn't losing to to little bro.
Let me quess we must go to the selective time frame argument so isu grad can sleep at night.
Wait for it, wait for it......
I already tried explaining to him that ranked teams, heck even non ranked Power5 teams don't lose multiple games to directional MAC teams.
How bad does it suck to be isu grad knowing that when football rolls around no one pays attention to them? How bad does it suck knowing Iowa has a coach that has achieved a level of success they can only dream about?
How much did isu pay for their massive 8 wins the last 3 years?
Massey:
Toledo 28
Pitt 44
Sagarin:
Toledo 37
Pitt 40
AP:
Toledo 30
Pitt NR
Coaches:
Toledo 28
Pitt NR
Hate to break it to you but you're wrong on this one, unless you think Massey, Sagarin, all the AP voters and all the coaches have a bias for Toledo and against Pittsburgh
Toledo 28
Pitt 44
Sagarin:
Toledo 37
Pitt 40
AP:
Toledo 30
Pitt NR
Coaches:
Toledo 28
Pitt NR
Hate to break it to you but you're wrong on this one, unless you think Massey, Sagarin, all the AP voters and all the coaches have a bias for Toledo and against Pittsburgh
If Toledo was good they would have beat directional Michigan and directional Illinois.
Yet almost beat Toledo. One bounce in a different direction and ISU wins and Toledo is no longer mentuined.
Story of the Rhoads era. It would have been pretty impressive though if they would have won that game on the road considering Toledo was the best non conference opponent any school from the state of Iowa played.
ISU must have been the second best, since they almost beat them...
Or I mean best on our schedule. Who would have thought ISU is Iowa's toughest game.
Never thought I'd see the day where the third place team in the MAC is better than the third place team from the ACC.
This is really cute of the ISU folks to talk so highly of the MAC.
Wasn't the third place team in the Big Ten better than the first and second place team?
Don't know, that game never happened.
But I do know Toledo lost to the two schools above them in the MAC.
Ohio State lost to Michigan State, didn't play in their conference title game and Ohio State was still the best Big Ten team at the end of the year
Ohio State was better than Michigan State at the end of the year. Every ranking system says that.
Were you not just saying Toledo is better than all but two teams in the ACC, because they are ranked higher.
I can't handle the stupidity anymore. I'm out.
I never once said Toledo was better than Clemson, UNC and Florida State. I said they were better than Pitt because they were.
Every ranking system said so but Lol I'll just believe you instead
Just pointing out the facts. Not sure why people think Pitt was good last year though
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