Under your argument above, Iowa has had Oklahoma, Tennessee, LSU and Stanford in the last 5 seasons. You are such a dumb ass, it's really hard to take anything you say seriously. The simple fact is that all legitimate P5 teams schedule 7 home games every year. Because of the restriction playing ISU every year home and away, Iowa has had less opportunity to play teams that will require games away from Kinnick. As has been stated numerous times, other B10 teams/national powers don't have this type of albatross in their schedule. It's the main reason Iowa fans want to get rid of Iowa State. It's a lose-lose-lose. Can't play better teams, no credit for a win and a terrible loss if Iowa state wins.
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So now bowl games count as regular scheduled games? How many of those bowl games did Iowa win? Blame ISU and now the 9 game conference schedule all you want, but its garbage. I stand by what I said, Iowa has been scheduling wins for the past 25 or so years, they have figured out the system. Get 7 to 9 wins, and you are in a New Years bowl game, and Iowa has been going with route ever since. Iowa fans use words like Legitimate and Relevant, as somehow that makes them feel they are a blue blood program, if you think you are a top of the hill team, then start playing others of the same group. I see Wisconsin, MSU doing it, why does Iowa not? The simple answer is, they want the wins.
Look, Iowa has a very good football program, but you are getting a little whinny about this scheduling deal, if I say so myself. Iowa is a member of the big 10, they are bringing in what 35 million a year from tv or more? That number will be going up to 40 to 45 million in the next couple of years. You keep saying you are relevant and legitimate, then Iowa can afford to play one season with six home games every five years or so. If you want to run with the big dogs, you have to play them, Iowa puts out the word they want to schedule up for a home and home. Pretty sure someone would be willing to do it, and if not you keep doing it till someone does. If you continue to schedule the way you currently are, then don't blame the national pundits when they rip on your schedule and your SOS. ISU fans will have nothing to bitch about when you just say, "hey, we played you, and Florida, Texas, Tenn. or LSU, who did you play? Big time teams do not run from a challenge they embrace it. Until Iowa has that attitude, they will never be considered relevant by anyone other than your own fan base.
He seems happy, it will not effect his ability to get to the next level if he has the talent and skill to get there. What was your bb coach selling 6 years ago, playing time and help me build back up the program. Why should that not work for ISU, look at your prize recruit this past year, his dad played at Iowa, how is that any different? Other than it's Iowa and that makes it OK.
Last year Iowa played easiest schedule and if won Big 10 title game would have made playoffs. Some people like you and even other hawks fans and troll analyst like cowherd need to realize that Iowa doesn't need to schedule a top name team in non conf. It may get a little more preseason hype but isn't a make or break factor. Proved last year that it isn't necessary. Plus going to a extra conf game plus big 10 title game possibly schedule gets tougher that as long as you run the table and win conf you'll have a seat at the table and with college football maybe even with 1 loss if still win title game. (funny no one rips ACC or SEC for refusing to go 9 conf games and having one more cupcake team on it).
As for why Iowa doesn't schedule another tough power 5 team look into the mirror with ISU. They can't either with the Iowa game. In fact you keep ripping Iowa when is last time isu played another tough non conf team? Toledo, uconn, San Jose st?
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God, you're a dumbass. I was simply mocking your use of MSU scheduling Alabama last year.
The ACC voted last week to go to nine conference games, the SEC is the only one that will not have nine after next year. As to who ISU plays, ISU is scheduling win, which what a school like ISU, struggling should be doing. Has Iowa been struggling for the past 25 years, no, they have not, but they still schedule like they are. There was talk last year of Iowa not making the playoff if they had defeated MSU, hard to believe that they would not have seeing that they undefeated, but the national talking heads were debating it. SOS is important if you are trying to get into the playoff , just as important is being a name school. I still never figured out how Ohio St, goes from 5th in the poll to 3rd when the two teams in front of them won, TCU won something like 53 - 3, and dropped in the poll. Both teams had lost one game, and TCU was ahead of OSU going into the championship round of games. I know OSU won that game, but how did that drop TCU to 5th?
Do you keep forgetting that Iowa was less than average and near the bottom of the Big10 for the 4 years prior to last year...
Grow up dude and fricken 7th grader can see this shit.
Those big name schools definitely want to schedule a 4 win Iowa team.
If you hadn't noticed Wisconsin and MSU are right in the middle of a hot streak, winning more than 10 games a year for the last 4-5 years.
You are not helping your argument at all.
These games are being scheduled out 5 to 10 years in advance, Iowa was coming off very good teams 5 to 10 years ago. Texas was horrible last year, but they are still a name, if you schedule them right now, you would expect they are going to bring a pretty salty team to Iowa City when you play them 5 to 10 years from now. Iowa won 12 games last year, expect another season like it this year, so we can expect to see Iowa using those records to schedule up 5 years from now. I will believe it when I see the announcement of it happening.
Barta and Kirk are Barta and Kirk. The scheduling is not going to change. Just like ISU is ISU and will always suck.
I agree with what you said about Iowa, but then why does your fan base complain and make excuse about it. Either schedule up or shut up about it. As to ISU, they will struggle as long as the conference stays at 10 teams, history has pointed that out. Their best seasons in the past is when they avoided playing Oklahoma and Texas. No one know what's go to happen with Baylor in the future, and at K St. Snyder can not keep coaching forever, what is the man 73 now. When he left before, they went to being the same ole K. State, who knows what happens to them when he retires again. And Iowa will continue to lose one out of the two games to ISU, just like they have for the past 17 years, and Iowa fans will continue to say "its their superbowl" instead of just admitting they lost to a poor team.
I need too straighten out the facts, Nebraska scheduled Oregon because Tenneessee asked if they could delay our series with them for 10 years because they had a scheduling problem with who I don't know But I believe it was Virgina Tech ( so we were suppose to play Tennessee the next 2 years instead we will play them in 2026& 2027.
We found out about this prior to the 2014 football season and still landed Oregon to play us.
Also we will be playing Oklahoma renewing our rivalry and the 50 anniversary of the game of the Century in the 2021 and 2022 seasons.
Besides Iowa St who in the future are Iowa P-5 conference opponents?
I also point out in 2018 the Huskers play at Michigan at Ohio St and Michigan St at home along with playing division rivals Wisconsin and Iowa on the road. When does Iowa play a conference schedule like that in the future?
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Every Iowa fan on here would like some marquee matchups. We also realize Iowa is not a good team at the start of the season, ISU series as evidence, so most would expect to lose that game.
Fact is, many including me have written Barta personally about some bigger ooc games. His xcuse is ISU and a nine game Big10 schedule.
Not going to change, go rant about the other 45 teams, n college football that are not playing anybody in the ooc.
You do realize Iowa was 4th and Michigan st 5th in playoff committee poll week before big 10
Title game. So please who were these people talking Iowa wouldn't make it? Didn't hear one analyst on ESPN or anywhere say anything. Even cowherd said Iowa would be in with a W.
Thing is Iowa can schedule who ever they want and as long as they win them all make playoffs. Even if clone fans like yourself disagree. Which is funny cause you are the last fan base calling out someone with non conf schedule.
No, I do not believe the idea that Iowa improves through out the year any more than any other team. I have coached for 30 years, every year the same question is asked of me, "are you going to be ready for the first game?" My response is always the same, "no, and neither will be the team we are playing." Every team improves throughout the year. The advantage the best team have is they have another quality player to fill in when an injury occurs. The weaker teams do not.
They were talking a lot about it on the College station on Satellite radio. Being 4th or 5th we learned, means nothing, TCU was third the year before the same week, and still dropped to fifth. Yes, Iowa can schedule who ever they want, but stop bitching about it, when the national pundits say that your SOS is horrible. You guys want to have it both ways, schedule no one with a pulse, and then complain when you are called out for it.
I think you're safe to say Boise will be fine in a couple years, you have almost a decade and a half to pull from. North Texas isn't Boise State.
I believe for a million dollars any of those teams would probably show up.
Haha good one. Now you are making stuff up. Name the exact people cause NO ONE was saying Iowa wouldn't make it beating Msu. Cause 6th place team had 2 losses and no one said they'd have a shot. As for SOS who cares everyone knew Iowa had a weaker schedule last year. But sos is all clone fans can ever bring to the table.
Ohh would you like me to include Northwestern? Nebraska play's there too.
Still say playing at Michigan is tougher than Penn St at home for Iowa and playing tOSU on the road is tougher than playing MSU on the road.... Nice advantage playing tOSU at home.
Play Michigan and tOSU,Wisconsin, Iowa and NW for your away games. I'd take you're 2017 over our 2018.....
So they are comparable, right? That's what you asked. Right now Nebraska's looks a little harder, but who knows three seasons down the road.
The talk on the college sports station on the sat. went something like this, Alabama gets upset in their championship game, Iowa squeezes by MSU. That leaves Clemson at (13-0 ACC champ), Florida then at (11-2) SEC Champ, and Oklahoma Big 12 Champ (11-1), then the committee takes Alabama and their #2 SOS over Iowa and their # 53 at the time. Alabama over Iowa for the fourth spot. Iowa was ranked # 54 before they played MSU. MSU was ranked 28th, so Iowa would not have gotten a huge bump in SOS by beating them. Even though Iowa was the big 10 champ and undefeated, the committee they thought would have taken Alabama. Now I am not saying it would have happened, but they were pretty convinced it would.
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How do you compare 5 B1G away games to 4 B1G away games?
No way would Iowa trade places with Nebraska. After 2019 we will see how Delaney makes these schedules up. But of now we play tOSU more than Wisconsin and Iowa and Wisconsin plays Michigan more than Iowa and Nebraska and Iowa plays Penn St more than Nebraska and Wisconsin,
How do you not? That means Nebraska has one tougher game out of 9 games. Why does that completely nullify any comparison?
I suppose you could make the argument that it's much tougher for Nebraska because they can't beat Northwestern, Wisconsin, and Iowa at home, let alone on the road. It should be a breeze for Iowa to win @Wisconsin, @Nebraska, and @NW again since we did it when we were a "fluke"
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NW has given you fits in the past decade I wouldn't hang my hat on that...
Don't compare last year to the future, you're losing the argument because you're not being rational about where your playing away games..... or are you playing the sarcasm game.
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If Bowlsby turned down a 2 and 1 with Notre Dame I will find him and kick him very hard in the nuts
But I would much rather play @Michigan than @MSU and @MSU vs. @OSU is a push. Literally the only thing that sets it apart is that Nebraska gets that extra road game instead of playing PSU at home. Seems pretty foolish to say there is no comparison because of that.
But I would much rather play @Michigan than @MSU and @MSU vs. @OSU is a push. Literally the only thing that sets it apart is that Nebraska gets that extra road game instead of playing PSU at home. Seems pretty foolish to say there is no comparison because of that.
Reality tells me Michigan and tOSU will be better teams compared to Michigan St and Penn St in 2017-2018 and we still play MSU.
"Playing at tOSU instead of playing Penn St at home seems pretty foolish to say there is no comparison"One more difficult away game all five games you would have trouble with if you had to play them THIS year on the road.
ARE YOU KIDDING me.
What is so difficult about this? Both play OSU and MSU, one home and one away. That is a push. The two B1G West opponents on the road is also a push. The only difference is playing @Michigan vs. PSU. The difference between those two games is nowhere near enough to say the schedules aren't comparable.Reality tells me Michigan and tOSU will be better teams compared to Michigan St and Penn St in 2017-2018 and we still play MSU.
"Playing at tOSU instead of playing Penn St at home seems pretty foolish to say there is no comparison"One more difficult away game all five games you would have trouble with if you had to play them THIS year on the road.
ARE YOU KIDDING me.
I agree, according to Iowa fans, SOS is a myth made up by ISU fans as an excuse for poor performances. So playing Rutgers and Maryland is the same as playing OSU and MSU, that is their line of thinking anyway. Most would disagree with that, but we have repeatedly been told here, SOS is not real and means nothing.
No playing OSU and MSU are equally as tough as playing Oklahoma and Baylor.
Baylor...TCU made me giggle a bit.
This is pretty accurate, if Iowa's goal is to make the playoffs they shouldn't be scheduling top teams in the non conference.
Iowa was a lock for the semis had they beaten MSU. There was not a question about this.
TCU and Baylor were 5th and 6th in the final poll for the college playoff two years ago. People want to look at what Baylor was like 10 years ago, things do change. Both had quite a few players drafted last month. Both schools recruit in the top 20 year after year. Look at the Baylor bowl game, they were playing their what, 4th team QB, and rushed for something like 500 yards in that bowl game. As for TCU since 2000 they have had 10 ten wins seasons and have been ranked in the top ten in the final poll 7 times. Their last two bowl games they have crushed Old Miss, 42-3 and last year beat Oregon 47-41, both are quality football programs.
While schedules obviously make a big difference and benefited Iowa last year, I do think Iowa State fans lean too much on SOS. While there's clearly a difference between playing Oklahoma versus Rutgers, it's really tough to take the SOS argument seriously in Iowa State's case when they have 4 conference wins in 3 years, with two of them against Kansas. And have OOC losses in that same three years against UNI, Toledo and ND State.
Teams like Kansas State, West Virginia, Texas and Texas Tech were not great teams last year. They would have been middle of the road in the B10 just as they were in the B12. But the ISU argument is often along the lines of "trade schedules and we'd have won 8 games". If you can't beat Kansas State and Toledo, how can you say you'd have beaten Pittsburgh and Illinois? Nebraska and Wisconsin may not have been Oklahoma and TCU last year, but they were sure as hell good enough to have beaten Iowa State at home. I'm just not sure where all those extra wins were going to come from?
Toledo was pretty good last year so that's a pretty bad example. They were better than Pitt last year and much better than Illinois
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