That's the guess people are making. Seems like this is complicated... not just some trans guy beating up women.Apparently she had the testosterone levels of a man too
That's the guess people are making. Seems like this is complicated... not just some trans guy beating up women.Apparently she had the testosterone levels of a man too
This makes it tough, genetically male, but was there or are there undecided testicles? Any extra testosterone
At one point in time I would agree with you sir but somewhere along the way it went from.please give me my space to live to you are some "phobe" for not knowing what random pronouns I picked out of the box today. Again I will say the people that killed it for this person, who has a legit medical reason, are the people who wanted to blur the lines with thinking they were the other sex while having full alternate genitalia.Actually, I think those who hate people who are trans, gay, etc are the ones who stoke this stuff. Just let them be... you don't have to like it or understand just let them be. Instead, people hate and constantly badger them and crap so these things happen. Just live your life and treat people well and that should come back to you.
I provided the boxing thing earlier that said the test showed she had xy and male level test. Fwiw.That's the guess people are making. Seems like this is complicated... not just some trans guy beating up women.
Apparently she had the testosterone levels of a man too
Sports are absolutely back of the line for the legitimate serious conversations that are not happeningShow me one example!!!!
You guys pandered to stupidity and now what should be a legitimate, serious, conversation will never happen.
You were so fired up to make.this a trans issue you clearly haven't read the thread.You all are so excited to get fired up about a trans issue that you didn't read the article and see that these aren't trans women. As we've been telling you - there's a LOT of variation in humans. You're so eager to show your culture warrior colors that you are willing to toss certain women under the bus in order to score political points. Well done, as usual.
Itstillrealtomedamnit.gifSports are absolutely back of the line for the legitimate serious conversations that are not happening
Nature is f@cking weird and complex.
Maybe it's unwise for people to base their worldview on incredibly simple "common sense"?
All top level athletes are genetic freaks. What is happening here is that where people normally celebrate that for women it's different. You can be a freak, so long as you're not different in ways that make us uncomfortable, because we find it icky!Testosterone is the key. That's where the big advantage would be. Sucks to have to disqualify someone, if they were born this way and didn't CHOOSE to transition. But life isn't always fair...
People are born with all kinds of physical conditions that prevent them from completing....
Using DNA (XY) and testosterone levels needs to be the hard line in the sand for competing in Women's sports. Fail those and go compete against Men.
But that was not the Olympic policy. All of these different sports have their own international organizations and governing bodies and they don't all follow suit. The world boxing org doesn't work with the world track and field org who doesnt necessarily work with the world swimming org And then the Olympic org doesnt necessarily follow the same rules, eligibiilty requirements, drug testing policies as they other independent world organizations .I provided the boxing thing earlier that said the test showed she had xy and male level test. Fwiw.
And bone structure etc.Apparently she had the testosterone levels of a man too
ban 7 footers... they have an advantage from birth.
There has to be some sort of test those athletes can take to provide me the peace of mind that there is no funny buisness going on right? Are those real legs? How do we know it's not two guys stacked on top of each other?
You all are so excited to get fired up about a trans issue that you didn't read the article and see that these aren't trans women. As we've been telling you - there's a LOT of variation in humans. You're so eager to show your culture warrior colors that you are willing to toss certain women under the bus in order to score political points. Well done, as usual.
But that was not the Olympic policy. All of these different sports have their own international organizations and governing bodies and they don't all follow suit. The world boxing org doesn't work with the world track and field org who doesnt necessarily work with the world swimming org And then the Olympic org doesnt necessarily follow the same rules, eligibiilty requirements, drug testing policies as they other independent world organizations .
Do you think this lady should be allowed to compete? Because there's a whole lot of your past posts saying that the only people that should be allowed to compete in women's sports are people that were born a woman. Or is this scenario different because the woman isn't like all other women?And bone structure etc.
Isn’t she a woman with an extra chromosome?Where is Huey? Morrison? Millah? This never happens?
Yes, GET PISSED OFF ABOUT IT MILLAH!!!!!Isn’t she a woman with an extra chromosome?
Kind of seems like the Britney Griner of boxing.Yes, GET PISSED OFF ABOUT IT MILLAH!!!!!
No. She has female genitalia and testosteroneIsn’t she a woman with an extra chromosome?
He was previously denied by another governing body (not IOC) and I have not read that anything has changed WRT an operation or hormone therapy.Do you think this lady should be allowed to compete? Because there's a whole lot of your past posts saying that the only people that should be allowed to compete in women's sports are people that were born a woman. Or is this scenario different because the woman isn't like all other women?
She has xy chromosomes and female genitaliaNo. She has female genitalia and testosterone
It's a she. She was born a girl, raised a girl, and is now a woman. She has ovaries and a uterus. She was denied by another governing body because of higher testosterone levels that aren't generally seen in women. She was not denied because she's a man trying to be a woman. If she was a man and transitioned, she would be in jail because it's prohibited in her country.He was previously denied by another governing body (not IOC) and I have not read that anything has changed WRT an operation or hormone therapy.
Was this person born with a uterus and ovaries or a penis? Did they develop breasts at puberty? Do they menstruate?
What does their birth certificate say?
🤔 so a female boxing in the female division. What is the outrage here? That she has higher T than most of the posters here? Sounds like she won the genetic lottery for women’s boxing.No. She has female genitalia and testosterone
Here is a nice breakdown of it for you, from a different thread.He was previously denied by another governing body (not IOC) and I have not read that anything has changed WRT an operation or hormone therapy.
Was this person born with a uterus and ovaries or a penis? Did they develop breasts at puberty? Do they menstruate?
What does their birth certificate say?
BE MAD MILLAH.🤔 so a female boxing in the female division. What is the outrage here? That she has higher T than most of the posters here? Sounds like she won the genetic lottery for women’s boxing.
BECAUSE SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TRANS DUMB ASS !!!!🤔 so a female boxing in the female division. What is the outrage here? That she has higher T than most of the posters here? Sounds like she won the genetic lottery for women’s boxing.
Oh. So is there a rule that she can’t have an extra chromosome?BECAUSE SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TRANS DUMB ASS !!!!
It’s not extra, she literally has xy not xxyOh. So is there a rule that she can’t have an extra chromosome?
Is there a rule she can’t have an xy?It’s not extra, she literally has xy not xxy
You - as per usual - are such an a-hole.It's a she. She was born a girl, raised a girl, and is now a woman. She has ovaries and a uterus. She was denied by another governing body because of higher testosterone levels that aren't generally seen in women. She was not denied because she's a man trying to be a woman. If she was a man and transitioned, she would be in jail because it's prohibited in her country.
This is a very stupid post for you.
You're making shit up. No one knows what her chromosomes are.It’s not extra, she literally has xy not xxy
Just post "I'm ignorant about this topic but I'll post this shit anyway!"You - as per usual - are such an a-hole.
I asked because I hadn’t read anything that answered those questions - but thank you for determining that I’m stupid.
I still do not think that a transitioned person retaining the XY should compete in athletics against XX persons. Their bone structure and mass will always be that of an XY.
That’s my stupid opinion and I’m not alone in that.
I think this is the part where I tell you to GFY?