Established 2014. Let me guess their kids have all been together 13 years and have just out worked their competition. They have no advantages
Grand view christian
- Thread starter Bulldogs1974
- Start date
No I just seriously dislike 1a/2a schools being from Des Moines/Iowa city or any town that has a population 100x bigger than the schools they are playing.
BAck to GVC. What is the story? Why would they separate from the church?
BAck to GVC. What is the story? Why would they separate from the church?
Cheated their way to the girls and boys basketball, volleyball, and football state championships!! Nice job Wolfpack!
How? Well by cheating and getting away with it, it enables a program to have advantages that other schools, that would be considered their peers, do not. And once you've got it established, then it becomes as much a part of their tradition as any other characteristic they portray.
Thought for a while these private/ parochial schools should have multiplier applied to them. If you don't think they have an advantage pull your head out of the sand.
Not having to take special need kids and having every parent extremely engaged in their child's success are just 2 advantages. Public schools don't have those benefits.
Not having to take special need kids and having every parent extremely engaged in their child's success are just 2 advantages. Public schools don't have those benefits.
Having parents involved with their kids life is cheating? What do special needs kids have to do with sports?
I live in Texas. I like the model here where private schools have their own association and own championships. the only private schools in the public school association are Strake Jesuit in Houston and Dallas Jesuit. Those two were only allowed in as a result of settlement of a lawsuit. They are too big for any classification in the private school group(TAPPS). Strake used to pull a bunch of nonsense in basketball but once they joined the UIL it all stopped as they had to be in a UIL district.
Your ability to check the credibility of my argument? Awwww that's too bad. Never would have guess that would happen. Almost like someone knew you'd try that........Sorry. Maybe next time.
its not cheating and to say so is pretty disingenuous. Private schools by definition must recruit. That's the lifeblood of how they actually get students. It is no secret and nothing underhanded either.
Private schools do have an advantage at the 1a and 2a levels because nearly every one of them are located in heavily populated or Metro areas to draw from. That does give them an advantage over smaller communities
Private schools do have an advantage at the 1a and 2a levels because nearly every one of them are located in heavily populated or Metro areas to draw from. That does give them an advantage over smaller communities
Where did I say cheating? Not having to take a kid keeps their numbers down. So they can participate in a lower class. Also they don't have to use financial resources for this child.
Having parents who participate is great. So you don't think it's an advantage? When all the private schools parents participate while the public schools they competed against have some to many who don't.
Not saying they shouldn't compete but using a multiplier might help to level the playing field.
Last edited:
Please expound on this. Is it required by private schools that parents become "extremely engaged in their child's success"?
You use the word 'cheat', yet offer no tangible evidence other than your perceptions. Your argument is tired and garbage - has been for decades.
Why doesn't Unity Christian in Orange City win the state tournament every year in all sports with this unfair advantage all private schools have? LeMars Gehlen Catholic? The newly formed Trinity Christian in Hull? These schools should be kicking ass and taking names every single year because of the inherit advantage they have over MOC, LeMars Public, and Boyden-Hull Public. Right?
It's become an American tradition over the past 30 years to tear down success rather than study and learn from it, your complaints are just a microcosm of this mindset.
You better tread lightly here...Burlington has been pretty nice to you guys in the recent past!
I've always maintained that Western Christian is a little bit of an aberration. However, there are a ton of small communities surrounding Hull and the fact that each town in and of itself is pretty solid in their own rights helps.
Do you have proof of that? We live in Mediapolis, parents here are very involved, of course it's an advantage, but it's definitely not cheating or something other schools can't do. To blame a school that has involved parents is wrong. Maybe try blaming the parents of the kids where they aren't involved. Same thing goes for academics. The more the parents are involved the better the kids and school is for the most part. Don't fault them because they care about their kids, schools and communities. It's says more about those who aren't involved.
Yes they have and my HS team used to beat their ass in basketball. But Melcher has dropped of the map in Basketball and GV is surging now.
Just off the top of my head:
http://www.kstatesports.com/sport/m-footbl/2015/roster/5589bfc7e4b09d6fde8f3a62
http://www.hawkeyesports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=1158
http://unipanthers.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=1081
http://unipanthers.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=1085
http://www.go-knights.net/roster.aspx?rp_id=5222
I'm sure there are more if I really start digging.
Many miss the point: if you take Iep kids and free and reduced out of a public school you might drop two classes. That's not the worst thing though.
Christian schools pulling from 100-200k people is far different than a rural town that only has 2000 people in the same amount of area.
Hell even western has around 30k in its surrounding communities. I give western much more credit than Xavier gvc or Regina.
Christian schools pulling from 100-200k people is far different than a rural town that only has 2000 people in the same amount of area.
Hell even western has around 30k in its surrounding communities. I give western much more credit than Xavier gvc or Regina.
Agreed - it's a little different animal in larger cities.
My main argument is with gohawks2009's blanket statement of Western's 'cheating', I've been hearing it for decades and it's beyond old.
My main argument is with gohawks2009's blanket statement of Western's 'cheating', I've been hearing it for decades and it's beyond old.
Once again I never said this is cheating. But the mere fact that parents are paying the tuition gives a far greater chance they will be involved. Parent involvement is wanted and happens at a public or private schools. But to pretend it doesn't happens at lesser rates at the public school is nothing but sticking your head in the sand.
Similar threads
