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Looking forward to tomorrow night's game as a great test for my young Boilers. Congrats on your ranking and your season so far. It's fun to have that level of expectations.

Last year we pretty much let Luka eat and focused on making sure no one else beat us. My fear is he will foul out both of our centers and I'm not sure how we function offensively in that case. Even if that doesn't happen, you might have enough offense to overpower us. We also don't have a Nojel Eastern level defensive stopper to put on Wieskamp.

Looking through KenPom stuff, it looks like one thing we may be able to exploit is your vulnerability to giving up offensive rebounds, as getting them is a strength of ours.

We have five freshmen in a 10-man rotation, so you'll be seeing a lot of new faces. Four of them have already had double-figure scoring games. The one to watch out for whose stats won't jump off the page yet is Jaden Ivey (#23). He's our most dynamic player on offense, but is just two games into his return from a foot injury. We haven't had anyone like him at that size (6'5") in who knows how long, if ever.

As for the returnees, I'm sure you're well aware of Trevion Williams. He started slow but has been outstanding the last three games. Eric Hunter, who was the star of last year's game at C-H has taken it to another level and is quickly rounding into shape after missing the first four games with a knee. Sasha Stefanovic seems to have cured his road shooting woes from a year ago and is at 52% from three on high volume.

We will have to control tempo and limit the turnovers to have any real chance. KenPom has it at 83-76 Hawks. Sounds about right. I just hope we're not playing at 10-15 points behind all night.

Oh, one more thing. Fran may want to designate somebody to run into Zach Edey's elbows. You'll draw a couple of flagrants and it could be a big momentum changer, if needed.
 
Welcome. I've not seen PU play and only know they have a 9 foot tall center. Tell me about your guards because the way to beat Iowa is to double down on Luka while having jet quick guards playing straight up on our guards. That seems to really get them out of sorts. See Gonzaga. I expect a rather close game, closer than it should be.
 
Hunter is the best defender. He held NDs leading scorer to 0 points on Saturday while putting up 18 with 8 assists himself. With the exception of Isaiah Thompson, we have good length at the other guard spots as Stefanovich and Brandon Newman are 6'5" and Ethan Morton is 6'6". The inexperience shows, though, as we tend to get lost in switches and give up a lot of open threes. We will double Luka, probably all night, but if you keep the ball moving, you'll have success.
 
Hunter is the best defender. He held NDs leading scorer to 0 points on Saturday while putting up 18 with 8 assists himself. With the exception of Isaiah Thompson, we have good length at the other guard spots as Stefanovich and Brandon Newman are 6'5" and Ethan Morton is 6'6". The inexperience shows, though, as we tend to get lost in switches and give up a lot of open threes. We will double Luka, probably all night, but if you keep the ball moving, you'll have success.
That seems to be Iowa's game, at least against UNC but not so much against Zaga. Toss it in to Luka and have him kick it when a defender collapses. One thing is for sure, teams with length are generally successful if they can man Iowa's guards 1 on 1.
 
That seems to be Iowa's game, at least against UNC but not so much against Zaga. Toss it in to Luka and have him kick it when a defender collapses. One thing is for sure, teams with length are generally successful if they can man Iowa's guards 1 on 1.
We haven't always been great at containing the dribble. Haven't seen much of you guys this year, but my sense is Toussaint could be a difference maker as long as he's not turning it over. Could also see this as another game in which Luka makes 5 or 6 threes.
 
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We haven't always been great at containing the dribble. Haven't seen much of you guys this year, but my sense is Toussaint could be a difference maker as long as he's not turning it over. Could also see this as another game in which Luka makes 5 or 6 threes.
That would be great to see Luka hitting a 3 or 3. Iowa really doesn't have a penetrator other than JT or maybe Joe W. They are like you said, keep the ball moving and hit the open 3.

Should be interesting. I hope PU you can keep up as I bet the over....HAHA!
 
Welcome. I've not seen PU play and only know they have a 9 foot tall center. Tell me about your guards because the way to beat Iowa is to double down on Luka while having jet quick guards playing straight up on our guards. That seems to really get them out of sorts. See Gonzaga. I expect a rather close game, closer than it should be.
Purdue with a 9-foot center... what else is new.
 
Wait, don’t we hate you and you hate us? ;)
Actually respect the hell out of your teams and Painter. Always plan on a close game and hard fought.
 
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For several years there yes, they definitely had two:

Haarms and Haas.

I'm reading they have a 7'4" guy on the roster now. Wowsa.

Haarms and Haas were both 7'2" so.... In addition they had 6'9" Swanigan and 6'10" Taylor. Crazy length on those teams.
 
Looking forward to tomorrow night's game as a great test for my young Boilers. Congrats on your ranking and your season so far. It's fun to have that level of expectations.

Last year we pretty much let Luka eat and focused on making sure no one else beat us. My fear is he will foul out both of our centers and I'm not sure how we function offensively in that case. Even if that doesn't happen, you might have enough offense to overpower us. We also don't have a Nojel Eastern level defensive stopper to put on Wieskamp.

Looking through KenPom stuff, it looks like one thing we may be able to exploit is your vulnerability to giving up offensive rebounds, as getting them is a strength of ours.

We have five freshmen in a 10-man rotation, so you'll be seeing a lot of new faces. Four of them have already had double-figure scoring games. The one to watch out for whose stats won't jump off the page yet is Jaden Ivey (#23). He's our most dynamic player on offense, but is just two games into his return from a foot injury. We haven't had anyone like him at that size (6'5") in who knows how long, if ever.

As for the returnees, I'm sure you're well aware of Trevion Williams. He started slow but has been outstanding the last three games. Eric Hunter, who was the star of last year's game at C-H has taken it to another level and is quickly rounding into shape after missing the first four games with a knee. Sasha Stefanovic seems to have cured his road shooting woes from a year ago and is at 52% from three on high volume.

We will have to control tempo and limit the turnovers to have any real chance. KenPom has it at 83-76 Hawks. Sounds about right. I just hope we're not playing at 10-15 points behind all night.

Oh, one more thing. Fran may want to designate somebody to run into Zach Edey's elbows. You'll draw a couple of flagrants and it could be a big momentum changer, if needed.

you like to attack the offensive glass and get 2nd chance points?

that makes me unhappy.

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Looking forward to tomorrow night's game as a great test for my young Boilers. Congrats on your ranking and your season so far. It's fun to have that level of expectations.

Last year we pretty much let Luka eat and focused on making sure no one else beat us. My fear is he will foul out both of our centers and I'm not sure how we function offensively in that case. Even if that doesn't happen, you might have enough offense to overpower us. We also don't have a Nojel Eastern level defensive stopper to put on Wieskamp.

Looking through KenPom stuff, it looks like one thing we may be able to exploit is your vulnerability to giving up offensive rebounds, as getting them is a strength of ours.

We have five freshmen in a 10-man rotation, so you'll be seeing a lot of new faces. Four of them have already had double-figure scoring games. The one to watch out for whose stats won't jump off the page yet is Jaden Ivey (#23). He's our most dynamic player on offense, but is just two games into his return from a foot injury. We haven't had anyone like him at that size (6'5") in who knows how long, if ever.

As for the returnees, I'm sure you're well aware of Trevion Williams. He started slow but has been outstanding the last three games. Eric Hunter, who was the star of last year's game at C-H has taken it to another level and is quickly rounding into shape after missing the first four games with a knee. Sasha Stefanovic seems to have cured his road shooting woes from a year ago and is at 52% from three on high volume.

We will have to control tempo and limit the turnovers to have any real chance. KenPom has it at 83-76 Hawks. Sounds about right. I just hope we're not playing at 10-15 points behind all night.

Oh, one more thing. Fran may want to designate somebody to run into Zach Edey's elbows. You'll draw a couple of flagrants and it could be a big momentum changer, if needed.
Seriously, was Purdues game plan last year to jack as many threes as possible up?
 
Looking forward to tomorrow night's game as a great test for my young Boilers. Congrats on your ranking and your season so far. It's fun to have that level of expectations.

Last year we pretty much let Luka eat and focused on making sure no one else beat us. My fear is he will foul out both of our centers and I'm not sure how we function offensively in that case. Even if that doesn't happen, you might have enough offense to overpower us. We also don't have a Nojel Eastern level defensive stopper to put on Wieskamp.

Looking through KenPom stuff, it looks like one thing we may be able to exploit is your vulnerability to giving up offensive rebounds, as getting them is a strength of ours.

We have five freshmen in a 10-man rotation, so you'll be seeing a lot of new faces. Four of them have already had double-figure scoring games. The one to watch out for whose stats won't jump off the page yet is Jaden Ivey (#23). He's our most dynamic player on offense, but is just two games into his return from a foot injury. We haven't had anyone like him at that size (6'5") in who knows how long, if ever.

As for the returnees, I'm sure you're well aware of Trevion Williams. He started slow but has been outstanding the last three games. Eric Hunter, who was the star of last year's game at C-H has taken it to another level and is quickly rounding into shape after missing the first four games with a knee. Sasha Stefanovic seems to have cured his road shooting woes from a year ago and is at 52% from three on high volume.

We will have to control tempo and limit the turnovers to have any real chance. KenPom has it at 83-76 Hawks. Sounds about right. I just hope we're not playing at 10-15 points behind all night.

Oh, one more thing. Fran may want to designate somebody to run into Zach Edey's elbows. You'll draw a couple of flagrants and it could be a big momentum changer, if needed.
That Edey kid looks like a player to me. He's got a little bulk to him and seems to move pretty well for his size (i.e. he's coordinated it appears). He'll be a handful before all is said and done I believe.
 
Seriously, was Purdues game plan last year to jack as many threes as possible up?

In the first game last year (104-68 Purdue win) they made 22-31 2 point shots and 19-34 3-pointers. In the second game, they made a pedestrian 17-40 2 pointers and just 8-27 3-pointers. Aside from the absolute blitzing in the first game, the thing that Purdue did really well was defend Iowa better than any other Big 10 team last year. Iowa had 2 of its lowest effective FG% in those games against Purdue. They really made Iowa sideways in both games, to use Fran's vernacular. What they did exceedingly well last year was not give Iowa's perimeter players and room to breathe. Made them dribble the ball and limit catch and shoot 3's.

Purdue lost some of the guys that gave Iowa such fits last year, but Iowa is going to have to play tougher than they did last year. It won't be like UNC, where Iowa just moves the ball and gets wide open 3's. Iowa has to be ready to win a bit of a street fight.
 
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That Edey kid looks like a player to me. He's got a little bulk to him and seems to move pretty well for his size (i.e. he's coordinated it appears). He'll be a handful before all is said and done I believe.
He's going to be really good. It's pretty amazing to watch him when you realize he's only been playing for three years. He does move well and has really good hands and a soft touch. Better rebounder than Haas or Haarms. Not really a great defender or shot blocker yet and he is foul prone, especially on offense. When he gets fouled, though, he has already proved to be an excellent FT shooter (24-32, 75%). I think the stage tonight will be a little too big this early in his career, but not a bad start for the #429 recruit in his class.
 
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Honestly, this game scares the crap out of me. After last years Purdue games I am still traumatized by the beatings.......it's just that Purdue's system, style of play, team make up, or whatever you want to call it (Painter has Fran's number) is the worst match up for ours......I hope like crazy that I am wrong and since I usually am, maybe we sneak out with a win tonight?
 
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Good test for Iowa to get try and get back on track. Purdue is always good, just depends on what level of good they are. I think they are just young right now but have big potential.

Iowa will have to - Hit shots, and rebound. Purdue has done both of those to us lately in recent games.
 
In the first game last year (104-68 Purdue win) they made 22-31 2 point shots and 19-34 3-pointers. In the second game, they made a pedestrian 17-40 2 pointers and just 8-27 3-pointers. Aside from the absolute blitzing in the first game, the thing that Purdue did really well was defend Iowa better than any other Big 10 team last year. Iowa had 2 of its lowest effective FG% in those games against Purdue. They really made Iowa sideways in both games, to use Fran's vernacular. What they did exceedingly well last year was not give Iowa's perimeter players and room to breathe. Made them dribble the ball and limit catch and shoot 3's.

Purdue lost some of the guys that gave Iowa such fits last year, but Iowa is going to have to play tougher than they did last year. It won't be like UNC, where Iowa just moves the ball and gets wide open 3's. Iowa has to be ready to win a bit of a street fight.
this is what I am talking about. Excellent recap. I worry about PU getting all up Iowa's face and Iowa folding for lack of a better termT
 
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In the first game last year (104-68 Purdue win) they made 22-31 2 point shots and 19-34 3-pointers. In the second game, they made a pedestrian 17-40 2 pointers and just 8-27 3-pointers. Aside from the absolute blitzing in the first game, the thing that Purdue did really well was defend Iowa better than any other Big 10 team last year. Iowa had 2 of its lowest effective FG% in those games against Purdue. They really made Iowa sideways in both games, to use Fran's vernacular. What they did exceedingly well last year was not give Iowa's perimeter players and room to breathe. Made them dribble the ball and limit catch and shoot 3's.

Purdue lost some of the guys that gave Iowa such fits last year, but Iowa is going to have to play tougher than they did last year. It won't be like UNC, where Iowa just moves the ball and gets wide open 3's. Iowa has to be ready to win a bit of a street fight.

These were 2 of the worst for Iowa last year. The standout statistic was rebounding. Obviously Purdue went completely nuclear in MA and there was no winning that game for Iowa. Everyone runs into a buzzsaw like that a time or two a year (for Iowa, probably more) but they still pulled down 10 offensive rebounds and we had 15 defensive rebounds (on the rare times they did hit the rim). The game in CHA was even worse, 21 OReb for Purdue and 23 DReb for Iowa.

That's not going to get it done, so I feel like this is going to be a telling game to see if Fran can make some adjustments for this game and adapting our patented style a bit. The effort of Garza is never the problem, so I think 1) Joe W and Connor need to be crashing the defensive glass to counter them crashing the O-glass. We always have one of those guys on a runout off the miss, but I think we need to sacrifice some of our normal pace. We can still run a moderate speed/possession game (scoring around 80), and beat this team in the half-court. Especially at home, and now with a much less experienced front line to defend Garza with 2) Keegan and Nunge have to take some of the rebounding burden off Garza. This is going to be a tough assignment for Keegan in his first game in the BT, and I'm guessing he hasn't played against a 7'3" guy ever before, but I think they're each capable of 12-15 good minutes each, which means that one of them should be on the floor with Garza most of the time instead of the 4 guards + Garza. 3) More man than we usually play, probably the majority of the game. Stefanovic and their other guards are zone busters and will shoot over the top all night if we let them, they'll have their two bigs crashing on missed 3's. While at first blush we can see Edey making LG work a lot inside, but he certainly does not have the tendency to pass it back out, and we can force him into bad decisions with quick doubles, and that's if he stays out of foul trouble. When the ball goes into Edey, I don't think you have to worry about him kicking out to the guy who left to double.
 
These were 2 of the worst for Iowa last year. The standout statistic was rebounding. Obviously Purdue went completely nuclear in MA and there was no winning that game for Iowa. Everyone runs into a buzzsaw like that a time or two a year (for Iowa, probably more) but they still pulled down 10 offensive rebounds and we had 15 defensive rebounds (on the rare times they did hit the rim). The game in CHA was even worse, 21 OReb for Purdue and 23 DReb for Iowa.

That's not going to get it done, so I feel like this is going to be a telling game to see if Fran can make some adjustments for this game and adapting our patented style a bit. The effort of Garza is never the problem, so I think 1) Joe W and Connor need to be crashing the defensive glass to counter them crashing the O-glass. We always have one of those guys on a runout off the miss, but I think we need to sacrifice some of our normal pace. We can still run a moderate speed/possession game (scoring around 80), and beat this team in the half-court. Especially at home, and now with a much less experienced front line to defend Garza with 2) Keegan and Nunge have to take some of the rebounding burden off Garza. This is going to be a tough assignment for Keegan in his first game in the BT, and I'm guessing he hasn't played against a 7'3" guy ever before, but I think they're each capable of 12-15 good minutes each, which means that one of them should be on the floor with Garza most of the time instead of the 4 guards + Garza. 3) More man than we usually play, probably the majority of the game. Stefanovic and their other guards are zone busters and will shoot over the top all night if we let them, they'll have their two bigs crashing on missed 3's. While at first blush we can see Edey making LG work a lot inside, but he certainly does not have the tendency to pass it back out, and we can force him into bad decisions with quick doubles, and that's if he stays out of foul trouble. When the ball goes into Edey, I don't think you have to worry about him kicking out to the guy who left to double.
Agree you should double Edey, as he has not yet consistently demonstrated the ability to find the open shooter. On the other hand, if Luka can defend Williams one-on-one without getting in foul trouble then that should be the plan, as Trevion is an elite passer. Nearly had a triple-double with 8 assists vs. Indiana State and is averaging 3 apg in 24 minutes. We've scored a lot just off the 4 man diving when the double comes.
 
While Edey is certainly a hand-full, bear in mind he is the back-up. He'll see 15 minutes or so of game time (unless Trevion Williams gets into early foul trouble). Trevion will be the starting center. He is not as big of a threat as Edey is for dunks / alley-oops (He tends to favor backing the defender up to the basket and then doing a hook shot). What he has improved significantly on though is passing out of the double team. If you are curious, there are a few videos on ESPN from the OSU game where he did a no-look over the shoulder pass to another player coming in while he was double-teamed that were pretty sweet.
I think Iowa needs to concentrate on limiting Stefanovic. He is the three point sniper. Iowa needs someone hanging on him the entire game and never let him get more than a foot of clearance. Iowa can absolutely win a shoot-out, especially since Purdue's defense is not as good this year as last, but the more it can keep Stefanovic from going off, the more likely they can pull away early.
 
Looking forward to tomorrow night's game as a great test for my young Boilers. Congrats on your ranking and your season so far. It's fun to have that level of expectations.

Last year we pretty much let Luka eat and focused on making sure no one else beat us. My fear is he will foul out both of our centers and I'm not sure how we function offensively in that case. Even if that doesn't happen, you might have enough offense to overpower us. We also don't have a Nojel Eastern level defensive stopper to put on Wieskamp.

Looking through KenPom stuff, it looks like one thing we may be able to exploit is your vulnerability to giving up offensive rebounds, as getting them is a strength of ours.

We have five freshmen in a 10-man rotation, so you'll be seeing a lot of new faces. Four of them have already had double-figure scoring games. The one to watch out for whose stats won't jump off the page yet is Jaden Ivey (#23). He's our most dynamic player on offense, but is just two games into his return from a foot injury. We haven't had anyone like him at that size (6'5") in who knows how long, if ever.

As for the returnees, I'm sure you're well aware of Trevion Williams. He started slow but has been outstanding the last three games. Eric Hunter, who was the star of last year's game at C-H has taken it to another level and is quickly rounding into shape after missing the first four games with a knee. Sasha Stefanovic seems to have cured his road shooting woes from a year ago and is at 52% from three on high volume.

We will have to control tempo and limit the turnovers to have any real chance. KenPom has it at 83-76 Hawks. Sounds about right. I just hope we're not playing at 10-15 points behind all night.

Oh, one more thing. Fran may want to designate somebody to run into Zach Edey's elbows. You'll draw a couple of flagrants and it could be a big momentum changer, if needed.
Oh don't worry. You get plenty of 2nd and 3rd and 8th chances off of offensive rebounds.

You don't even have to fight our guys who actually do try to box out. Just stand in the lane or the 3 pt line and at least 60% of the time the ball will come right back to a Purdue player uncontested because God hates Iowa like that...............
 
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These were 2 of the worst for Iowa last year. The standout statistic was rebounding. Obviously Purdue went completely nuclear in MA and there was no winning that game for Iowa. Everyone runs into a buzzsaw like that a time or two a year (for Iowa, probably more) but they still pulled down 10 offensive rebounds and we had 15 defensive rebounds (on the rare times they did hit the rim). The game in CHA was even worse, 21 OReb for Purdue and 23 DReb for Iowa.

That's not going to get it done, so I feel like this is going to be a telling game to see if Fran can make some adjustments for this game and adapting our patented style a bit. The effort of Garza is never the problem, so I think 1) Joe W and Connor need to be crashing the defensive glass to counter them crashing the O-glass. We always have one of those guys on a runout off the miss, but I think we need to sacrifice some of our normal pace. We can still run a moderate speed/possession game (scoring around 80), and beat this team in the half-court. Especially at home, and now with a much less experienced front line to defend Garza with 2) Keegan and Nunge have to take some of the rebounding burden off Garza. This is going to be a tough assignment for Keegan in his first game in the BT, and I'm guessing he hasn't played against a 7'3" guy ever before, but I think they're each capable of 12-15 good minutes each, which means that one of them should be on the floor with Garza most of the time instead of the 4 guards + Garza. 3) More man than we usually play, probably the majority of the game. Stefanovic and their other guards are zone busters and will shoot over the top all night if we let them, they'll have their two bigs crashing on missed 3's. While at first blush we can see Edey making LG work a lot inside, but he certainly does not have the tendency to pass it back out, and we can force him into bad decisions with quick doubles, and that's if he stays out of foul trouble. When the ball goes into Edey, I don't think you have to worry about him kicking out to the guy who left to double.

Hey, thanks for reading, @Franisdaman ! Good coaching last night
 
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