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I have no idea how anyone could see race in that exchange. Says way more about you than it does about AJ.


Come on, dude, let’s be fair here. You can’t critique Angel Reeses on any social media platform without immediately being called a racist. Race is everywhere, people have a tendency to see it in everything, and I’m not picking on you when I say you are one of them. I feel like we have reached enough of a detente to appeal to your human nature & remind you we have to forcibly tell ourselves to look at things open mindedly and with clear vision.

I’m not surprised he jumped to that conclusion but like you I’m also just as certain it has nothing to do with race🤷‍♂️
 
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I mean did you read the tweet exchange? One guy said that he has “a theory” about why Guyton isn’t getting the ball but he doesn’t feel comfortable saying it on dads Twitter feed.

Dad then responds that he agrees with the “theory” and that it is “very disappointing”.

I mean …if the “theory” was simply that the coaches don’t trust her, why wouldn’t the dude be comfortable saying it online?

I know it’s speculative, but I really don’t think I’m going completely crazy here

You are NOT a humongous (haven't used that word in awhile 🤓) piece of shit. You are human and society has tricked us into seeking race in everything.
 
There is smoke on various sites in regard to Guyton, I have no idea what is true and what isn’t, Seems kinda obvious her Dad feels she is not being utilized correctly at Iowa. From my perspective she can have a bright future at Iowa and ample opportunities to excel next year. If her and her father feel there is greener pastures in her future good luck and cya later.
 
Come on, dude, let’s be fair here. You can’t critique Angel Reeses on any social media platform without immediately being called a racist. Race is everywhere, people have a tendency to see it in everything, and I’m not picking on you when I say you are one of them. I feel like we have reached enough of a detente to appeal to your human nature & remind you we have to forcibly tell ourselves to look at things open mindedly and with clear vision.

I’m not surprised he jumped to that conclusion but like you I’m also just as certain it has nothing to do with race🤷‍♂️
It is definitely an issue on both sides. I agree that racism is pervasive and that coded language is often used, which you are right, I will call out. I did not see any coded language in that message. But you are right, I dropped the "says more about you" line, which is chickenshit. That was my bad. Sorry for that, @Fran-Con-2.
 
It is definitely an issue on both sides. I agree that racism is pervasive and that coded language is often used, which you are right, I will call out. I did not see any coded language in that message. But you are right, I dropped the "says more about you" line, which is chickenshit. That was my bad. Sorry for that, @Fran-Con-2.
This might be the best apology I have ever seen on this forum. Very well done!
 


I worry the “over it” means he is “over” the Iowa program

Yeah, I gotta be honest with you. I really don’t give a shit anymore. @kceasthawk who I think is a marvelous poster has talked about Iowa needing to retain people. But I’m “over” parents making power plays on social media.

Hell I’m shocked even our fans who are constantly up in arms about who’s playing are “OK” with parents doing this kind of stuff and pretending like that’s what Iowa deserves….

I don’t know what people are watching, but let’s just have a numerological breakdown..,

1) AG came in rehabbing…

2) she started getting minutes…

3) she got even more minutes & better & better.

4) got great publicity by Coach Jan.

5) the “super fans” wanted her to get the keys to the offense..

6) team loses five games in a row. Staff was searching for the right lineup, she started fading a little and losing Minutes…

7) and now here we are. Either be part of a team or get the hell out, that is honestly my feeling I don’t give a shit how good you are or aren’t. I had kids that played sports, quite frankly I had kids who played sports that should’ve likely started sooner than they did and I have had kids that played sports that even kind of got shit on. It’s a part of the process, get over yourself. If AJ‘s got a problem he should get his daughter and move on.

The truth is he’s making a power-play. That is a ridiculous and ignorant tweet. AJ Guyton certainly has enough resources and people around him to know how to get his daughter into the portal. I mean of all the ridiculous pandering gaslighting bullshit things to do. I would think any Iowa fan would be pissed about it….

This team has played with heart and passion and got better and better and here we are.

And while I’m beating a dead horse, this is the same kind of shit that goes along with our “super fans” constantly throwing a petty whiny bitch fit about the coaches, they all go hand-in-hand…

Nice work fellas !!
 
It is definitely an issue on both sides. I agree that racism is pervasive and that coded language is often used, which you are right, I will call out. I did not see any coded language in that message. But you are right, I dropped the "says more about you" line, which is chickenshit. That was my bad. Sorry for that, @Fran-Con-2.
I guess the Clark/Reese debate and recent Iowa football discrimination fallout has primed me to to assume the worst when people take cryptic shots at Iowa on the Internet.

But, to be fair to you, I am definitely not helping things when I come on here and lob suspicions about potential racial issues. Not very productive on my part.
 
It is definitely an issue on both sides. I agree that racism is pervasive and that coded language is often used, which you are right, I will call out. I did not see any coded language in that message. But you are right, I dropped the "says more about you" line, which is chickenshit. That was my bad. Sorry for that, @Fran-Con-2.

Awesome follow up, as you know I overthink things and as a result often times over say them, with too much passion to boot. But you have certainly ascended my ladder. ( like you give a shit what I think 😂 ) on how you present yourself and how you take accountability. Kudos…

And I was not trying to be harsh with you. I did think you would respond in similar fashion as to what you did. 😊 it is a conundrum this race issue. It’s both overwrought and under appreciated all at the same time. And I don’t know how to fix it.🤷‍♂️
 
Very disappointed in her dad thinking anything good can come about those types of posts. He needs to let the season play out, and if she feels this isn't the place for it so be it. He isn't doing his daughter any favors. I hope she sticks around but the program is always bigger than any one athlete unless your CC.
 
Aaliyah went through a stretch of four straight games where she was 1 of 15 from three point range and 4 of 26 from the field and yet Jan still proceeded to play her 28 minutes in the Ohio Ohio State game screw him..

She honestly has been one of my favorite players, but I honestly don’t give a shit. I am so tired of people constantly bitching when the rest of us try to take an even, fair minded approach to things. As I said, I have personal experience with this fan, player, Coach, parent scenario.
 
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Yeah, I gotta be honest with you. I really don’t give a shit anymore. @kceasthawk who I think is a marvelous poster has talked about Iowa needing to retain people. But I’m “over” parents making power plays on social media.

Hell I’m shocked even our fans who are constantly up in arms about who’s playing are “OK” with parents doing this kind of stuff and pretending like that’s what Iowa deserves….

I don’t know what people are watching, but let’s just have a numerological breakdown..,

1) AG came in rehabbing…

2) she started getting minutes…

3) she got even more minutes & better & better.

4) got great publicity by Coach Jan.

5) the “super fans” wanted her to get the keys to the offense..

6) team loses five games in a row. Staff was searching for the right lineup, she started fading a little and losing Minutes…

7) and now here we are. Either be part of a team or get the hell out, that is honestly my feeling I don’t give a shit how good you are or aren’t. I had kids that played sports, quite frankly I had kids who played sports that should’ve likely started sooner than they did and I have had kids that played sports that even kind of got shit on. It’s a part of the process, get over yourself. If AJ‘s got a problem he should get his daughter and move on.

The truth is he’s making a power-play. That is a ridiculous and ignorant tweet. AJ Guyton certainly has enough resources and people around him to know how to get his daughter into the portal. I mean of all the ridiculous pandering gaslighting bullshit things to do. I would think any Iowa fan would be pissed about it….

This team has played with heart and passion and got better and better and here we are.

And while I’m beating a dead horse, this is the same kind of shit that goes along with our “super fans” constantly throwing a petty whiny bitch fit about the coaches, they all go hand-in-hand…

Nice work fellas !!
7. That paragraph is exactly how I feel. I really couldn't care less what he (AJ) thinks or says. It's like Tom Brands said several years ago, and I don't remember now if it was concerning Iowa FB BB or Wrestling athletes, or even a coach, (paraphrasing) If they don't want to be here, get the hell out.
 
7. That paragraph is exactly how I feel. I really couldn't care less what he (AJ) thinks or says. It's like Tom Brands said several years ago, and I don't remember now if it was concerning Iowa FB BB or Wrestling athletes, or even a coach, (paraphrasing) If they don't want to be here, get the hell out.

Exactly!!!! Get the hell out. And I’m generally one who leans towards compassion and empathy, but that kind of petty bullshit wrecks team chemistry.!
 
Really stupid to completely write the off the kid because her dad made a couple tweets you didn't like in the heat of the moment. She can't control what he does and there's been nothing to indicate she's upset or looking to leave. Glad Jan is a lot more mature than some of you
 
Really stupid to completely write the off the kid because her dad made a couple tweets you didn't like in the heat of the moment. She can't control what he does and there's been nothing to indicate she's upset or looking to leave. Glad Jan is a lot more mature than some of you
And also glad to see that Aaliyah is more mature than her dad
 
Really stupid to completely write the off the kid because her dad made a couple tweets you didn't like in the heat of the moment. She can't control what he does and there's been nothing to indicate she's upset or looking to leave. Glad Jan is a lot more mature than some of you

I am not writing her off, and it will be up to any player to make those decisions. I want any player that comes to Iowa to stay here, regardless of their production. The portal has changed things for sure, and in my opinion not for the good.
 
Really stupid to completely write the off the kid because her dad made a couple tweets you didn't like in the heat of the moment. She can't control what he does and there's been nothing to indicate she's upset or looking to leave. Glad Jan is a lot more mature than some of you

Well, we would both agree with that… I haven’t got the indication that’s what people are doing. I am simply saying if that’s her dad’s opinion and he’s going to be a problem then absolutely she should move on.

Now if, as I suspect Aaliyah loves playing with this team and is enjoying herself, bully for us & her, but she should tell her dad to stay the hell off of social media making stupid ass comments that erode team chemistry & camaraderie
 
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Can we at least acknowledge that lots of fans post emotional stuff and then regret it, and within that frame there are player parents? It's perhaps just not a big deal. Fans being fans, dads being dads.

Let's be clear about one thing here. Nobody knows how Aaliyah feels, but most indications are that she is happy and wants to keep improving her play on the court. And really that's all that matters. Aaliyah might be very close with her parents, but she's also not her parents.

Also, with regard to the "theory" post: that wasn't AJ Guyton's post and really has nothing to do with him. That's a rando internet poster chirping. About what? Who knows, but it doesn't really matter.

Let's give player parents some grace.
Let's give fans some grace.
Let's try not to fuel internet speculation with unnecessary drama.
 
I am not writing her off, and it will be up to any player to make those decisions. I want any player that comes to Iowa to stay here, regardless of their production. The portal has changed things for sure, and in my opinion not for the good.

Nobody in her wrote her off. It was a straight commentary towards her dad, and he asked for it by being a buffoon.
 
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Can we at least acknowledge that lots of fans post emotional stuff and then regret it, and within that frame there are player parents? It's perhaps just not a big deal. Fans being fans, dads being dads.

Let's be clear about one thing here. Nobody knows how Aaliyah feels, but most indications are that she is happy and wants to keep improving her play on the court. And really that's all that matters. Aaliyah might be very close with her parents, but she's also not her parents.

Also, with regard to the "theory" post: that wasn't AJ Guyton's post and really has nothing to do with him. That's a rando internet poster chirping. About what? Who knows, but it doesn't really matter.

Let's give player parents some grace.
Let's give fans some grace.
Let's try not to fuel internet speculation with unnecessary drama.

Touché and well said…I should say I’m probably equally bitter and appreciative of the fact that most of these folks don’t have my wife. She would’ve undressed me for doing something like that on social media. In fact she doesn’t want me on social media at all. 😂 and routinely does undressed me for such antics.

And not the good undressed by the way
 
Nobody in her wrote her off. It was a straight commentary towards her dad, and he asked for it by being a buffoon.
Not just a buffoon. How do his tweets affect the NIL profitability of his daughter? Do you guess his tweets make it easier or harder for her to sell product or get affiliations? Who would do that to their own daughter?
 
Not just a buffoon. How do his tweets affect the NIL profitability of his daughter? Do you guess his tweets make it easier or harder for her to sell product or get affiliations? Who would do that to their own daughter?

This is a terrific point
 
I can’t even imagine what it must be like to deal with some of the pampered players and parents. AJ is making an ass of himself and should log off. His daughter is a talented player but the coach is the coach. There’s never been a player on Earth who doesn’t want more playing time.
 
My read of that seems to be that her dad is implying that she isn’t getting the ball due to racial issues.

Which would be completely asinine.
Same thought occurred to me. All idle speculation, hope she sticks around. Had some great moments this year
 
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Yeah, I gotta be honest with you. I really don’t give a shit anymore. @kceasthawk who I think is a marvelous poster has talked about Iowa needing to retain people. But I’m “over” parents making power plays on social media.

Hell I’m shocked even our fans who are constantly up in arms about who’s playing are “OK” with parents doing this kind of stuff and pretending like that’s what Iowa deserves….

I don’t know what people are watching, but let’s just have a numerological breakdown..,

1) AG came in rehabbing…

2) she started getting minutes…

3) she got even more minutes & better & better.

4) got great publicity by Coach Jan.

5) the “super fans” wanted her to get the keys to the offense..

6) team loses five games in a row. Staff was searching for the right lineup, she started fading a little and losing Minutes…

7) and now here we are. Either be part of a team or get the hell out, that is honestly my feeling I don’t give a shit how good you are or aren’t. I had kids that played sports, quite frankly I had kids who played sports that should’ve likely started sooner than they did and I have had kids that played sports that even kind of got shit on. It’s a part of the process, get over yourself. If AJ‘s got a problem he should get his daughter and move on.

The truth is he’s making a power-play. That is a ridiculous and ignorant tweet. AJ Guyton certainly has enough resources and people around him to know how to get his daughter into the portal. I mean of all the ridiculous pandering gaslighting bullshit things to do. I would think any Iowa fan would be pissed about it….

This team has played with heart and passion and got better and better and here we are.

And while I’m beating a dead horse, this is the same kind of shit that goes along with our “super fans” constantly throwing a petty whiny bitch fit about the coaches, they all go hand-in-hand…

Nice work fellas !!
For the record, I stated earlier in the year when Papa Guyton posted something critical, that he should knock it off. As I said, I had two sons who played college bball, and I've never met a coach worth a shit who listens to what a players parents think when it comes to playing time, or how their utilized. He should know, as a former player, that this does not benefit his daughter in anyway...
 
For the record, I stated earlier in the year when Papa Guyton posted something critical, that he should knock it off. As I said, I had two sons who played college bball, and I've never met a coach worth a shit who listens to what a players parents think when it comes to playing time, or how their utilized. He should know, as a former player, that this does not benefit his daughter in anyway...
I agree and as a parent of an ex-college athlete there are times you will be miffed at the coach but just be disgruntled and keep it to yourself IMO.
 
For the record, I stated earlier in the year when Papa Guyton posted something critical, that he should knock it off. As I said, I had two sons who played college bball, and I've never met a coach worth a shit who listens to what a players parents think when it comes to playing time, or how their utilized. He should know, as a former player, that this does not benefit his daughter in anyway...

I do remember you saying that
 
This has relieved my fears a bit. AJ has got to be careful about what he tweets.

Apparently his tweet was referring to one of his old players who is currently at Missouri. Guessing this dude who tweeted back at me below is a friend or has some connection to AJ and got it cleared up.

 
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Opens another scholarship, let’s go! I mean, she has certainly displayed potential but nothing elite IMO.
 
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She didn’t look happy late in the UCLA game. It could totally be nothing at all but I noticed it.
Kinda noticed lack of enthusiasm as well, but could just be her personality.
Started watching replay of last night's game. In the 1st quarter Guyton made her 1st shot, traveled, turned it over again while trying to dribble between 2 defenders, and then let Swords dribble around her for a layup. All this in 3 minutes. Understandable mistakes for a freshman, but not worthy of starting status in an important game. Plain to see even for a previous All-American.
 
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