Why not? Trump still reminds everyone that the 2020 election was stolen from him, too. There are some undeniable regarding collusion and “greedflation”…. There never was any evidence Trump submitted that supported a “stolen election”.
Here’s what Trump’s deportation plans could mean for Iowans
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Cool. Now address his comment. The left was all for substantial raises to the minimum wage and ignored the inevitable increase in the COG&S. Creating a tighter labor market will increase the wages of blue collar workers in the farm sector but now you are against it because prices will go up?
Weird.
This is why people don’t take you seriously.
I can’t wait for Melania, Barron, Eric, Ivanka and Jr. to all be deported. Hopefully he doesn’t show any favoritism.
They responded that "inflation is up worldwide due to Covid pandemic supply chain disruption" and that it was lower in the US than in most Western countries.
You seem to have a 'Mr. Short Term Memory' problem with what happened to Iowa's farm products economy the last time Trump rolled out a bunch of tariffs...
I want to give these dumbasses exactly what they voted for. They want to see mass deportation, give them mass deportation and let the results speak for themselves.
We had crops rotting in the Florida fields his last term, let them rot again
We had crops rotting in the Florida fields his last term, let them rot again
Sometimes it's best just to let people learn the hard way.
Yes, the exact people that elected Trump.
You are obviously too young to really have experienced crushing inflation.
When the Arab Embargo of oil hit full tilt boogie after the 1973 war, inflation was truly awful. Gas went from early 20s per gallon to 60cents. More than double in weeks. Gasoline sales were limited to even odd. If your license plate ended in even, you could purchase on certain days. Odd, you could purchase on the other days.
A sugar shortage meant the restaurant I was working at as a kid had to take sugar packets off the table, as people plundered them.
My grandparents gave grocery bags of staples to their grown ass kids at Christmas.
You don’t understand the term crushing inflation, and you certainly seem unaware of previous sacrifices made by others.
Why are you ok with a system that relies on criminal activity?
Let’s not talk about United Healthcare. Let’s stick to Agro business.
Let it burn baby, let it burn.
Who do you think works the fields, your neighbors? If you purchase food at a grocery store, you are eating food at least partially processed by a noncitizen.
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In 2020–22, 32 percent of crop farmworkers were U.S. born, 7 percent were immigrants who had obtained U.S. citizenship, 19 percent were other authorized immigrants (primarily permanent residents or green-card holders), and the remaining 42 percent held no work authorization. The share of workers who are U.S.
My question is who are the criminals. Shouldn’t the folks that hired them pay a price as well. 40% of their labor force tells me at best complacent. Or imo criminals as well.
Raid the meat packing plants and assess massive fines for each undocumented worker. Farm fields as well. Keep going into the landscape crews. Next, walk onto every construction site building a multi million dollar home.
Let’s see how the republicans respond to that.
Fugging hypocrites is what you will easily document.
Fine the employers, rather than the employees. Let’s see how many rats scurry for cover.
Can someone please tell me when Lute became one of HBOT's most reasonable posters?
Cleaning services corporate and domestic. Hospitality industry.
Shitlibs raise lazy, worthless kids and then cry when the threat of low wage illegal immigrant workers may go away.
The ole boy has always been reasonable, but maybe misunderstood at times.
Lute rocks.
Mar A Lago will get all of the H1Bs and will sell off what they don't need to the highest bidders.
#FreeMarket
Meanwhile, MAGA cons drink Mountain Dew, indulge in meth and OxyContin, cancel dental appointments and clean their guns.
Boys….all modesty aside, this one might ge the best post I have ever made in HROT…. Devine inspiration!
You rock, Joel.Boys….all modesty aside, this one might ge the best post I have ever made in HROT…. Devine inspiration!
Are you wearing Hokas while you type?
Andy Devine?Boys….all modesty aside, this one might ge the best post I have ever made in HROT…. Devine inspiration!
As a matter of fact, no…. Just watched my Brownies absolutely dump another one at Pittsburgh, though.
Don’t forget “Jingles”….. Plunk your magic twanger, Froggie!
I noticed once you were exposed as wanting deportations only to feed your animus and emotions you stopped caring about inflation.
Why did Republicans bend the knee to candidate Trump and refuse to address criminal behavior? You know, in immigration and the fraud and rapey kind?
Bam. Zounds. Biff.
Whassup, Northern. You support criminal enterprises daily. They just have the veneer of respectability.
Great article....ask an immigration lawyer their opinion of deportations impact on the economy....what answer would any rational person expect??A mass removal of undocumented workers could lead to a tighter labor market in Iowa, higher wage rates and higher production costs, potentially leading to higher prices for goods and services, according to an Iowa State University economist.
Iowa could lose $151.6 million in taxes and tens of thousands of Iowa children could be separated from a parent if President-elect Donald Trump makes good on his promise of mass deportation.
Or the plan could be too unwieldy, logistically burdensome and costly to execute in full. Either way, undocumented immigrants in Iowa and their advocates say they are preparing for the worst.
Trump has vowed to conduct "the largest domestic deportation operation in American history.“ He has tapped immigration hard-liners to serve in his cabinet, including Tom Homan to serve as “border czar” and Republican South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem to serve as his Homeland Security secretary.
"It's not going to be a massive sweep of neighborhoods," Homan said in an interview with Fox News. "It's not going to be massive raids. It's going to be a targeted enforcement operation."
Homan, though, warned that does not mean deportations of other undocumented migrants living in the country “is off the table.”
“If you're in a country illegally, you've got a problem,” he told Fox News.
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An estimated more than 11 million undocumented immigrants live in the United States, according to Pew Research. There are roughly 52,300 undocumented immigrants living in Iowa, or about 1.6 percent of the state’s population, according to estimates from the American Immigration Council, a pro-immigration advocacy group.
Vice-president-elect JD Vance has suggested 1 million people could be deported each year. Trump deported about 1.5 million people during his first term. Democratic President Joe Biden’s administration was on pace to match those numbers, in addition to millions turned away at the U.S.-Mexico border during the COVID-19 pandemic.
More than 3 million people were deported during Democratic former President Barack Obama’s eight years in office, more than any other U.S. president.
The Gazette spoke with an economist, Iowa business leader, immigration attorney and legal expert as well as with leaders and advocates in Iowa’s immigrant community to get a sense of the potential impact of Trump’s plans on Iowa families, communities and businesses.
What’s the reaction from Iowa immigrants to Trump’s plans?
Tens of thousands of undocumented migrants are working across Iowa, contributing hundreds of millions of dollars to the Iowa economy.
A 2022 report by the American Immigration Council about immigrants living in Iowa estimates that undocumented residents made up about 2.4 percent of the state’s workforce and paid $354 million in taxes, with $151.6 million going to local and state governments. Those immigrants spent a total of $1.3 billion, the report found.
An estimated 26.2 percent of the state’s immigrant population are undocumented residents.
Rogelio Lagunas, a member of the Cedar Rapids Latino community, said many Iowa immigrants lack criminal records and know their rights and the process involved if detained, which reduces the fear of mass deportation.
“We know if people is not a criminal, if they got detained, they got to go to through the immigration process. They got to go to immigration court,” Lagunas said. “So we're not afraid. The community is not afraid about mass deportation,” he said of comments made by Trump’s team.
Advocates and legal experts, however, said there’s no guarantee that undocumented migrants without criminal convictions would not be ensnared in deportation efforts.
While Homan has said undocumented migrants deemed to be national security or public safety threats will be a priority, he has also suggested workplace raids that took place under former President W. Bush’s second term — like the 2008 raid that occurred at a kosher meatpacking plant in Postville — could return.
Lagunas stressed that while the community is not overly worried about mass deportations, they are concerned about the emboldening of racist behavior and increased bullying and discrimination against people of color.
Trump escalated his anti-immigration rhetoric on the campaign trail, saying during a rally in Iowa that undocumented immigrants were “poisoning the blood” of America, echoing the rhetoric of white supremacists.
The president-elect also has falsely claimed that immigrants are “coming from prisons, they’re coming from jail, they’re from mental institutions and insane asylums.”
Lagunas, who immigrated to Iowa, encouraged the community to assert their rights and speak out against racism.
Jairo Muñoz of Iowa City has been a U.S. citizen for 35 years. Originally from Colombia, he moved to the country 42 years ago to pursue a master's and PhD in engineering.
Like Lagunas, Muñoz said he worries about Trump stoking anti-immigrant sentiment and discrimination and declining support for diversity and inclusion efforts.
“It is the impact on the fiber of the community, of the people on how now it's OK to mistreat others,” Muñoz told The Gazette. “Now how diversity and inclusion is a sinful couple of words we cannot say. We cannot do it, we cannot act on it. That is becoming the new fiber of our society, and that is what really concerns me.”
He said he does not believe mass deportations are likely.
“Mass deportations will not be possible in the same way that it was not possible to build a wall and have Mexico pay for the wall,” he said. “… I don't think there will be mass deportations. I think (Trump) is doing what he always does. He says things to reach down to the emotions of people and to get other individuals in the community to follow his lead. And that is what I'm really concerned about.”
Here’s what Trump’s deportation plans could mean for Iowans
A mass removal of undocumented workers could lead to a tighter labor market in Iowa, higher wage rates and higher production costs, potentially leading to higher prices for goods and services, according to an Iowa State University economist.www.thegazette.com
Lots of jobs available for your lazy ass 9 year old to go earn some money at a meat packing plant.
I’m curious about the refugee programs in this country. Wife has about 15 Afghanistan refugees currently. Any of those in danger of being shipped back to the Taliban. Most of them are girls.
You do realize Biden implemented the 50% tariff on China that will go into effect 1/1/25 and Trump has threatened to raise it to 60% once he is in office? It’s not just the right, it’s the left too. I don’t like it but it is what it is and I don’t politicize it for personal gain. There are some real daisey’s on the left and the right in here.
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