Republicans: Remember, Lincoln freed the slaves and he was a Republican. Democrats are the real racists.
Also Republicans: It's our heritage!
F***ing morons
Also Republicans: It's our heritage!
F***ing morons
House Republicans overwhelmingly vote to support a Confederate monument at Arlington National Cemetery
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It’s truly bizarre how they don’t see the contradiction there.Republicans: Remember, Lincoln freed the slaves and he was a Republican. Democrats are the real racists.
Also Republicans: It's our heritage!
F***ing morons
95Hawk,
You're not taking the full measure of this. Men are not infallible. Your outrage is decidedly selective.
You say that the founding fathers and patriots "kick ass". Are you aware that many of those men enslaved other people? Are you aware that they fought against the ruling government who offered freedom to enslaved people if they joined the fight against the rebellion?
The war was fought for financial reasons; slavery was used as its justification.
Lazy people look at Grant and ignore what he said and did.
This a man who ‘bought’ a black man from his FIL and said his beliefs at the time were “…not even what could be called antislavery.”
Victors write history books, like 83Hawk said. Doesn’t mean they’re not full of lies.
So now you hate the Founding Fathers?
It’s so hard to keep up with your outrage.
Keeping spinning and deflecting. I will disengage at this time.
The civil war and the confederacy are part of our history, why would you and others deny history? Destroy this country? LOL.Why are Republicans so determined to support the losers who attempted to destroy this country?
Nearly 90% of House Republicans voted to restore a Confederate memorial at Arlington National Cemetery
Last year, the memorial was removed from Arlington Cemetery as part of a push to rethink military installations named after Confederate leaders.sg.news.yahoo.com
The south succeeded from the Union in order to survive, the North attacked them in order to force them into living under a regime they clearly did not want to be part of.
Arlington is a site where soldiers are buried from both sides of that war, who are you to say they can't have a monument to honor their dead?
I didn't say that.
And it's very clear that you now choose to "disengage at this time".
That's because things just became decidedly inconvenient and uncomfortable for you.
I'll ask again though.
You say that the founding fathers and patriots "kick ass". Are you aware that many of those men enslaved other people? Are you aware that they fought against the ruling government who offered freedom to enslaved people if they joined the fight against the rebellion?
Do you lack self-awareness to understand that your only vehicle for engagement on this platform is to re-direct questions and obfuscate when you’re backed into a corner?
That’s why I opt to disengage.
Good day, sir.
That is literally what YOU are doing right now.
As you previously stated... "It’s not a difficult question to answer."
But you and I both know that you can't reconcile your selective outrage on this.
Third try.
You say that the founding fathers and patriots "kick ass". Are you aware that many of those men enslaved other people? Are you aware that they fought against the ruling government who offered freedom to enslaved people if they joined the fight against the rebellion?
If you Rs love the racist confederacy so much then why don't you secede? Start your own racist nation. I mean we all know why. You're dependent on the government. But it's fun watching you show your true colors on this.
It’s quite frustrating when someone responds to a question with a re-direct or a new question, isn’t it?
What are your feelings about that kind of engagement?
It’s quite frustrating when someone responds to a question with a re-direct or a new question, isn’t it?
What are your feelings about that kind of engagement?
You've ignored my questions.
Your self-awareness is off the charts.
You guys only respond to his statement with insults, yet no one can argue that it's not a factual statement.
It would be accurate if we lived in England. It is a false equivalency and apples to oranges.
Not necessarily. For hundreds of years weve been fed the line it was about states rights
Few in the south actually owned slaves thus the financial piece is partial.
We also get to write that the Ukraine war iscabout one crazy man who wants the old ussr back. It nakes some on here feel better.
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It is accurate.
It's further accurate to say that the Revolutionary War was America's first civil war.
How does that hypocrisy make you feel, Northern?
Not really. I’m just asking questions.
As Northern stated: the hypocrisy is full-up in this thread. He just doesn’t understand irony.
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Are you aware we are mocking you for your insistence in using redirected questions because you can debate for shit?
Whether or not a southerner owned slaves, slavery itself was central to nearly every aspect of southern society and economy. It was overwhelmingly why the South lagged badly behind the North in industrialization, which made them more and more reliant on agriculture, which in turn made them more reliant of slavery for a cheap labor force. To be somebody in Southern society, it was nearly impossible to be somebody if you didn't own slaves - if only for appearances.
If not for slavery, most of the things that distinguished the South from the North would have been far less of note. Northern states were as passionate about state's rights as southern ones.
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What part of us making fun of you for only answering questions with redirected questions don’t you understand?
This thread reveals that your benchmarks for historical grievances are inconsistent.
Good to see they have their priorities straight.
This thread reveals that America is full of chuckleheads. Not much more beyond that.
I'll engage. Yes and yes.
Now, do you believe the Founding Fathers are traitors and should be treated as such with regard to memorials? Do you believe confederates are heros and should be treated as such with regard to memorials?
And why won't you answer Torbee's questions? LOL - j/k. We know why. It's because you're a pussy.
The founding fathers were traitors. That's not even debatable. No issues with memorials.
I further have no problems with states memorializing their war dead.
Torbee's question? Torbee is the equivalent to that sticky crud that gets all stuck up in the crevices of your shoe sole. I pay him little attention.
We are the nation born from said rebellion and the leaders of it are our founding fathers. The Confederacy was the enemy of said new nation and its fighters, traitors to it. The 2024 GOP is in the same realm as the 1860 Confederacy to what it's attempting to do to our Federal government today with events like January 6th and the ongoing attempts to undermine the rule of law.
The Confederacy didn't lose the Civil War and Trump didn't lose the 2020 election. In both case it was stolen. That's why we need these monuments. Duh. Why can't you libs pay attention.
So you must believe confederates are traitors too as that only stands to reason. But, then again, you've never been one to let reason get in the way.
You are OK with states recognizing war traitors? You would be OK with NY recognizing the Rozenbergs, for instance?
And GTFO with that nonsense. You try to ignore Torbee and me and others because your ignorance gets exposed with straight forward questions. Your the only one foolish enough to buy that BS.
