Service and allegiance to state was far more important during that time. Pick up a book.
House Republicans overwhelmingly vote to support a Confederate monument at Arlington National Cemetery
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Service and allegiance to state was far more important during that time. Pick up a book.
No, we're not. Don't claim to be. We are, however, much smarter than your dumb ass.
Good to know you believe confederates are traitors. Hard to understand why you want traitors to be honored. And it's obvious why you won't answer the questions posed to you.
It was? What book tells us that?
Allegiance to slavery was a lot more important then. I understand why you want to ignore that though.
It was about keeping and maintaining their culture. Which slavery and the subjugation of human beings was a foundation of.
This needs to be treaded on carefully. Easy to interpret monuments of Confederates as a celebration of slavery , share cropping, lynching, etc.
Returning from Nashville last week, we noticed a huge Confederate flag damn near flying over I 24 near Paducah, Kentucky.
Also right across from the flag was a water tower with this painted upon it...
So went I got back home I investigated and found this:
Also right across from the flag was a water tower with this painted upon it...
So went I got back home I investigated and found this:
Exit 16 Flag
A large Confederate battle flag flies on private property at Interstate 24's Exit 16 in Paducah, Kentucky. It suppresses property values for local homeowners, discourages business development, and...
exit16flag.weebly.com
It was? What book tells us that?
Allegiance to slavery was a lot more important then. I understand why you want to ignore that though.
Yes but a lot of TN, Virginua, KY, and MO were decidedly not in support of the Confederacy and were not supportive of it.
Ironically today cheap labor come in the form of open borders.
That cheap labor has been coming in for decades. Same with the outsourcing of jobs to countries that essentially use slave labor. None of what you’re pointing out is new.
Not coincidentally, in virginias case that’s how we ended up with West Virginia. Kentucky and Missouri were border states that had more contact with the north. The portion of Tennessee that wasn’t strongly pro-confederacy was also the portion that wasn’t great cotton-growing country so slavery did not have deep roots in that area.
The sewer would be a more fitting burial ground. That way they can rest in piss with other pieces of shit.
Kinda sad really, the least surprising part being that it’s Paducah KY.Returning from Nashville last week, we noticed a huge Confederate flag damn near flying over I 24 near Paducah, Kentucky.
Also right across from the flag was a water tower with this painted upon it...
So went I got back home I investigated and found this:
Exit 16 Flag
A large Confederate battle flag flies on private property at Interstate 24's Exit 16 in Paducah, Kentucky. It suppresses property values for local homeowners, discourages business development, and...exit16flag.weebly.com
Paducah. Isn't that where the Hawk tuah chick is from? LolReturning from Nashville last week, we noticed a huge Confederate flag damn near flying over I 24 near Paducah, Kentucky.
Also right across from the flag was a water tower with this painted upon it...
So went I got back home I investigated and found this:
Exit 16 Flag
A large Confederate battle flag flies on private property at Interstate 24's Exit 16 in Paducah, Kentucky. It suppresses property values for local homeowners, discourages business development, and...exit16flag.weebly.com
I've already reached out to Iowa's Congressional members urging them to support a Confederate Memorial at Arlington, after all we're all Americans.
There should be no memorial for traitors, and racists. As trump would say, I prefer memorials for people who don't lose wars.
Jesus ****ing Christ. How many got damn times does this have to be explained to you morons. The democrats of those days would be Republicans today. Why do you think Republicans are the ones trying to get a monument there? Are you really this ****ing stupid?
Is it really this difficult for you Northern? The cause they were fighting for was noble. They were fighting for the freedom to govern themselves. I think that deserves to be celebrated.
The confederacy? Yeah not so much... turns out fighting to continue slavery isn't all that noble. Who knew 🤷
Says others are going off on a tangent, tried to derail thread with bad analogy involving the Revolutionary War.
The irony is so thick Northern would never see it.
The Confederacy was fighting for the freedom to govern themselves. Slavery was going to be finished in the south regardless of how that war turned out.
You mean the ones who rebelled because they were being unfairly treated by an oppressive government without representation in its governing body? As opposed to the ones who rebelled because they weren’t allowed to own and horribly mistreat other humans anymore?
Yeah. They were totally gonna get rid of that free labor for the only source of income in the entire region. That’s why they flooded Kansas to vote FOR slavery. Because they wanted to be able to end it there once they started it.
A.K.A. as “the noble cause” in a some quarters of this nation. I guess if one believes SLAVERY was a “noble cause” worth fighting for and dying for, this nation has a lot of education and self-examination to undergo.
Make no mistake, the “War Between the States” was fought primarily over slavery and “the Southern states” desire to expand slavery into the western frontier.
Slavery is also the primary reason Texas went to war with Mexico back in its early “Republic” days. Mexico, the legal owners of Texas had outlawed slavery in Mexico and its holdings…Texas was trying to settle its land with immigrants who were plantation owners/slave owners from the southern United States. This issue became the chief issue of friction between Texas and Mexico leading to the Texas war of (ironically) “independence”.
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If that were the case then the people of the south really were stupid. I guess the war was good for one thing, thinning the herd of those idiots.
Are you aware that many of the revolutionary men enslaved other people? Are you aware that they fought against the ruling government who offered freedom to enslaved people if they joined the fight against the rebellion?
See post 146. I'm just trying to see if any of you are capable of seeing the full measure of this.
Yes and yes. Are you aware that slavery was not the reason for the Revolutionary War but it was in the Civil War?
Do you believe the confederates fought for a noble cause?
Preparing for another deflection.
There were many reasons for the Revolution and one not talked about in US history classes is the higher court ruling in England in 1772 that Common Law did not support slavery. The movement toward abolition was well on its way and in the early 1800s the trade was abolished and in I think 1833 slavery was abolished.
Was it a main reason? No the main reason was economic and slavery of course was an economic issue.
There is a whole lot about slavery and racism that gets covered up in US history. So, it was not THE REASON, but it certainly was a motivation in part by some leaders.
I’ve never once read that slavery was a motivating factor for the revolutionary war on any level.
It was a minor factor, if that, in the Revolutionary War. It was THE factor in the Civil War. That's the point. The rest is just drivel from those trying to justify honoring confederate traitors.
I agree that it WAS the factor in the Civil War. The Rev was mostly about money and rich people protecting themselves. Not in it's entirety.
A number of the communist leaders in the Soviet Union were about control and money and they had their rich people.
Control of money is at the source of most conflicts
It was about controlling the Colonies and taxing them without giving them any representation. It was not about slavery as the Civil War was which is the whole point of this discussion.
There are several who are trying to both sides the issue of honoring confederates with a claim that the Founding Fathers are equally traitorous. That's absurd and desperate. Which is common among those posters.
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